Posted in music on July 22, 2011

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"This week a new nonprofit group, the Fans First Coalition, announced itself with a mission of protecting ordinary consumers from predatory ticket scalpers. The group appeared to have broad support from the industry, including prominent artists like R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, Maroon 5 and Jennifer Hudson.

What fans might not know is that the coalition is financed by Live Nation Entertainment, the parent company of Ticketmaster, and that it has grown out of a lobbying fight between Live Nation and StubHub, the biggest legal online ticket reseller, over control of the multibillion-dollar secondary ticketing market." [NYTimes]

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Comments (19)

It's crap like this that makes me appreciate small venues. At least in Chicago, places like Lincoln Hall/Schuba's, the Empty Bottle, etc. still add a service charge, but it essentially makes the online price the same as the price at the door.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:37 AM

Trent Reznor's thoughts on ticket scalping: http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?59,548515

Required reading for anyone who cares about live music.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:40 AM

I think Silent Barn is somehow behind this.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:49 AM

I love stub hub. It allows me to rip off people who make a lot of money and do not care about the scene.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:50 AM

Yes, Ticketmaster/Live Nation supporting something called Fans First....ha. They own TicketsNow and TicketExchange. All they are looking for is to have both the primary and secondary market locked into one.

Look at how many tickets they hold back for shows on the original onsale. Look at how restrictive paperless ticketing is (if you cannot go, there is no way to transfer the ticket to a friend, your whole party has to arrive at the same time, etc). Also look at how often the pricing structure on shows change. Somehow the cheap price level will be sold out for a week forcing people to purchase the more expensive tickets. Then all of the sudden they are offering the cheap price point again.

I am all for a fully disclosed marketplace where fans truly have access above all else, but Fans First, is just a PR campaign driven by a bunch of money hungry assholes.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:53 AM

^that's a good link, thanks

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 11:55 AM

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Posted by Regular reader | July 22, 2011 12:47 PM

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 1:24 PM

yeasty

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 1:26 PM

I love stubhub! Having the option on price and seat choice is worth the premium. I get most of my tickets on stubhub now.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 1:36 PM

how come Jennifer Hudson is not fat anymore? that turns me off.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 1:53 PM

The Trent Reznor article is great. I wish more big name artists were as honest and upfront as him about this.
As for Stubhub, I like the idea of paying a premium to choose where I want to sit, except for the fact that there are insanely rich douchebags in NYC who ruin the prices for everyone else. Anyone who pays thousands per ticket for a 3 hour show is a douche.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 2:15 PM

11:53 - Can I get an Amen?

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 2:21 PM

Fans First is a bunch of horseshit. A majority of the artists, teams, and venues that have signed on to the coalition have each directly provided tickets to the secondary market in one way or another. It's a total sham.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 2:42 PM

A few things FansFirst doesn't address:
* Exhorbitant service fees
* Exhorbitant face value ticket prices
* People on the inside selling tickets to the secondary market

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 3:02 PM

Eff FansFirst.
If you really want to make a difference, STOP BUYING HIGH PRICED TICKETS.
Even if you love the artist and can afford it, don't feed into this problem.

Posted by Anonymous | July 22, 2011 4:15 PM

2:21 - Amen

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2011 1:38 AM

Yes, Ticketmaster/Live Nation supporting something called Fans First....ha. They own TicketsNow and TicketExchange. All they are looking for is to have both the primary and secondary market locked into one.

Posted by forums | August 17, 2011 6:39 AM

hm..thanks for article.. :D

Posted by licitatii | September 25, 2011 9:06 AM

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