Posted in hiphop | music on August 9, 2011

"I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it." - Steve Albini

Shellac at ATP 2008 (more by Zach Dilgard)
Shellac

A guy named Steve crossed paths with a guy named Tyler. See what Steve had to say about said encounter below.

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MESSAGE BOARD POST FROM STEVE ALBINI:

My band shared an airport shuttle with [Odd Future] in Barcelona. They piled onto the shuttle late, after finally getting corralled by their minder, who was nursing a head wound with an ice bag wrapped in a towel. They piled in, niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver, boasting into the air unbidden about getting their dicks sucked and calling everyone in the area a faggot. Then one of them lit a joint (or a pipe, I didn't look) and told the driver to shut the fuck up nigger and smoked it anyway. A female passenger tried to engage one of them in conversation, but he just stared at her with a dead-to-me stare while his seatmate flipped double birds in her face.

The whole trip they complained about not being at a McDonalds and repeatedly shouted for the motherfucker to pull over so they could get some fucking McDonalds nigger. Interspersed with the McDonalds requests were shouted boasts about how often they masturbated and fucked bitches nigger and got paid like a motherfucker fifty grand like a motherfucker. They continued complaining that the trip was taking too long and insisted they be fed immediately all the way to the airport, where their minder presumably fed them.

I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it.

I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator. Ultimately they are, of course, but not necessarily in the crude autobiographical way they are often interpreted.

I know all that, so I am never quick to judge a person based on a superficial reading of creative output. Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in me, to use another rapey example. Michael Gerald from Killdozer said it best in an interview, when the journalist remarked that he seemed like a nice fellow, which was unexpected given that the characters in his songs are often repellent. "Oh, that's not us," he said, "that's the crazy people we sing about." In that light, I am one hundred percent behind Odd Future's right to rap about what they wanna rap about, and if she don't like it fuck her.

And also fuck me. It's none of my business what they wanna. I'm not part of the audience for hip hop, and as a non-dilettante I don't generally respond to it when I hear it, so I can't make any critical assessment of Odd Future's music on its own terms, but they go out of their way to make it clear that this is not a case of regular people making music about assholes, but assholes making music about being assholes. I have no time for that. I don't respond kindly to it when Ted Nugent does it either.

If the whole thing is a put-on, a bit of Vincent Gallo life-as-theater for the benefit of whoever happens to be sitting next to them, that's no excuse. It's being an asshole about being an asshole. [Electrical Audio]

Steve's band Shellac have an upcoming tour with TWO shows at The Bell House in addition to ATP NJ. Tickets are still available to both Brooklyn shows. Odd Future's upcoming tour includes a sold out show at Terminal 5.

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Comments (262)

steve albinwho?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:06 AM

oddfuture's mad cuz they got small peen's

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:07 AM

this guy is a douchebag. he dosent get of cus he is 40

Posted by nigger | August 9, 2011 10:09 AM

if you don't know who steve albini is, just...i dunno, google him?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:10 AM

more like 50

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:11 AM

niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver

what does that mean???

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:13 AM

Albini tells it like it is, but he's on the fast-track to becoming a grumpy old man.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:13 AM

^saying nigger a lot and saying motherfuck in some capacity to the driver. c'mon now keep up...

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:14 AM

10:09 - No, because he's 40 is EXACTLY why he gets it.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:14 AM

I'd like to see Tyler and Steve in a cage match....

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:15 AM

I loved your Fred Schneider album, Steve!

Posted by M | August 9, 2011 10:17 AM

I'm a hiphop fan. Been so for years, before most of you were born. I've seen this shtick before with N.W.A., and quite frankly they did it better.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:17 AM

bravo, sir. i've been a fun of his involvement in music for a number of years. and while i don't always agree with his rambling on about issues, case in point sonic youth as of late, i must say he eloquently nailed it with this:

...but they go out of their way to make it clear that this is not a case of regular people making music about assholes, but assholes making music about being assholes.

they are assholes making music about assholes.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:18 AM

do you really think they were saying 'nigger' instead of 'nigga' ?? - big difference there. especially when retold by a white guy.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:19 AM

Awesome

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:19 AM

10:19 get over it all ready...the nigger/nigga fake power dynamic thing (whose allowed to say a word) was stupid when it was started and is completely meaningless now.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:22 AM

Right or wrong, does Steve Albini do anything other than trash other bands these days?

Posted by Paul | August 9, 2011 10:24 AM

Michael Richards > Tyler

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:28 AM

Steve Albini is absolutely right.

You little white guilt ridden pussies are falling over yourselves to be apologists for these talentless little buppie teenage pricks.

reality: They suck, are assholes and date rapists, and you're racists for letting them off the hook because they're black.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:31 AM

10:19 - I think that goes beyond Steve's point... Regardless of what version of "the N word" was used, his point was to describe the general disrespect the guys in the Odd Future camp had for the people around them. General ugly behavior. So I agree with Steve here.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:34 AM

LOL at Odd Future-- just a bunch of useless trash. Hope they're violently murdered asap.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:36 AM

They sound kind of retarded, actually.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:37 AM

my god. Odd Future sucks. SO. HARD. why do they garner so much fucking attention in this town?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:37 AM

10:31 agreed. It would actually be racist not to call them out for this kind of behavior.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:38 AM

Odd, yes, but no real future regardless. Nihilists.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:38 AM

Anyone gonna spit some Odd Future lyrics at brunch on Sunday?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:43 AM

Does anybody else cringe whenever they hear/read swear words from Steve Albini? Seems awkward.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:45 AM

Since when is a white guy allowed to type niggerniggerniggernigger all over the place like that?

Niggerniggernigger. Well, it's actually kind of fun.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:46 AM

These days? Steve Albini has been trashing bands since before he started playing an instrument. It is his second biggest hobby besides working on music.

Some of the sentence construction at the outset of his piece is a bit poor and sets off alarm bells about his views but thankfully it gets cleared up as it goes on.

It's funny how the Hipsterati took to this act so fast. It's just a glorified 2 Live Crew.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:51 AM

"A female passenger tried to engage one of them in conversation, but he just stared at her with a dead-to-me stare while his seatmate flipped double birds in her face..."

I do think these guys suck, but that is one funny visual...

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:52 AM

Odd Future is black-people ICP and everyone's going to be ashamed of listening to this by next year.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:52 AM

At least people will remember Steve.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:00 AM

^ Yeah, for his rants more than his recordings it seems.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:01 AM

11:01, yeah no one will remember that Nirvana record he produced. Or that Fugazi record. The Pixies? Nah, no one will remember that one either...

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:05 AM

10:46: Haha, that reminds me of Hateman on the Howard Stern show. Y-tube that shit if you wanna find out. :)

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:09 AM

"In that light, I am one hundred percent behind Odd Future's right to rap about what they wanna rap about, and if she don't like it fuck her."

The most important part of Steve's rant. Just because Steve hates them doesn't mean he doesn't hate you too. In fact, he does. Probably more.

(*cough* 10:31 *cough*)

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:09 AM

"We believe in nothing, Albini!"

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:10 AM

There's kerosene around. Something to do.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:13 AM

yet another reason to love Steve Albini.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:18 AM

11:05 - That Fugazi record was shelved - apparently because it sounded weak. Albini gets some good sound from instruments, but he's not great at capturing vocals and his mixes are tepid.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:18 AM

"reality: They suck, are assholes and date rapists, and you're racists for letting them off the hook because they're black."

Well, in my case at least, I'm letting them off the hook because I absolutely love it when leftist mascots attack other leftist mascots. I even made (organic) popcorn!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:22 AM

bravo, steve.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:23 AM

wow, the right wing troll gets a word in

how novel!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:30 AM

Tyler got head from a tranny

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:37 AM

Well put, 11:30. Someone who has a different political POV shouldn't be commenting on a music blog because that makes him a troll. Go fuck yourself with a cactus.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:46 AM

"Steve has opinions based on a myopic point of view, which of course does not extend to the manufacturers of his pants." - Thurston Moore

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:47 AM

Big fan of albini's work, OF is OK.

What I don't get, is albini ALSO wrote music about being an asshole while being an asshole.

Posted by GodBong | August 9, 2011 11:58 AM

Steve Tyler hasn't made a good song since "Seasons of Wither"

Posted by Joe Perry | August 9, 2011 11:58 AM

This is why no one likes niggers

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:12 PM

Writing music about being an asshole does not equate to being fucking "nigger" assholes. Right? Can we all agree on that point?

Besides we all know these new breed "shock" fucks will end up doing exactly what they do today to a much smaller crowd while they burn through the cash they might be making now.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:14 PM

Why you snuff it then? You plant eating pussy.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:14 PM

Steve "The Meanie" Albini

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:19 PM

I find Steve Albini's assertion that he stands a chance in a fight with anyone to be laughable. Basically he's never made a note of worthwhile music, brings the same shitty sound to every record he produces, and is keeping his name out there by being a cranky asshole.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:22 PM

They are not lacking in talent, at least not Tyler, for one, and I think I will like them better when they have matured beyond the misdirected hostility of adolescence. Why is it that it is okay for punk (metal, etc..) bands to embody teen angst and be assholes, but when some unseasoned, burgeoning rap group goes through the same thing, its just plain ugly? What Steve is forgetting is that pretty much all teenagers are assholes. However this is only encouragement, because this is exactly the type of fart smelling, holier-than-thou, moral outrage that fuels this music and behavior.
Let them do what they want to do, or come up with a more creative method to foster and develop talent other than whistle-blowing.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:23 PM

lol @ people thinking that albini was ever relevant.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:24 PM

Albini was in a band named "Run Nigger Run". True story.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:25 PM

ODD Future = Shit hipster hip-hop.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:27 PM

lol @ people thinking that odd future are talented

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:31 PM

^Nice. Lets get the word hipster involved in this.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 12:32 PM

I'M NIGGERING EVERYTHING IN SIGHT

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:00 PM

Definitely crossing a line when you start throwing the H word around.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:00 PM

NIGSTERS

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:06 PM

Meh, they're no PM Dawn.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:06 PM

MY OPINION MATTER! all of y'all just need to go fuck yourselves!

Posted by important | August 9, 2011 1:14 PM

50 year old white guy doesn't understand hip-hop, news at 11.

Posted by Mimetic | August 9, 2011 1:16 PM

lol at 106

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:18 PM

Kickball Katy's ice cream sundae tattoo or Gucci Mane's ice cream cone tattoo?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:19 PM

Fuck, thank you Steve for shedding some light on how worthless these kids are in real life. I'm glad nothing personal happened between Steve and them, so he was able to write about this objectively, and not just angrily.

This guy still gets shit and is trashed because people misunderstood/misinterpreted his lyrics in Big Black and Rapeman. He does a perfect job of, and has more right than anyone else to compare his work to that of Odd Future's, and how it's perceived, and how these kids equal garbage. He fucking hits it out of the park, for real.

Oh, and the age/relevancy comments... you have no idea how ignorant you sound.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:28 PM

Fuck rap and fuck odd future!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:35 PM

hahahaaaa, Mcdonald's n%$$#r?!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:39 PM

I think this the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Or nigga. Assholes making music about being assholes? Maybe he should look at the mirror sometime. Love Albini's and Odd Future's output equally. So basically, it's another rant from the skinny little white weed smoking dude from Montana.

Posted by JR | August 9, 2011 1:39 PM

Thank you Steve.. I usually think you're a grumpy guy, but how great it is to call out these scumbags. Odd Future are fucking garbage.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:40 PM

Aug, 9. 1:19pm-
kickball katy's warm apple pie...

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:43 PM

1:39 - Is it really the pot calling the kettle black? Is Steve's grumpy rants to the music press equal to a group of dudes being disrespectful to everyone around them whereever they go?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:55 PM

i LOVE reading the comments on Brooklyn Vegan posts!!!

Ya'll crack my ass up!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 1:59 PM

wow, seriously. why is my telling of an example of Albini's hypocrisy being blocked?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:03 PM

^certain words are blocked

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:05 PM

yes, it is the pot calling the kettle black and i would even go as far as call it hypocritical because with his age and experience i'm pretty sure he's seen this behavior from many other artistes, but albini needs to rant out so here's this lovely chronicle to share with the rest of us. god bless him, his rants and those who defend them. you make my day.

Posted by JR | August 9, 2011 2:12 PM

"Meh, they're no PM Dawn."

You got that right!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:13 PM

niggers gonna nig

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:19 PM

What ya think is the over/under on this reaching 200 comments by the end of the night?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:21 PM

no, its not encouraging them, its called having balls and standing up for something you believe in. and leftist mascots? homophobia, materialism, exploitation of women, im sorry - these are LEFTIST ideals? punk music was raging against this kind of shit. Johnny rotten sang about anarchy and fighting the establishment, not raping some sluts at denny's. it's apples and oranges, dude.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:22 PM

And to think... some of these comments could've been used in that research paper that would've got you an 'A'. Oh well.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:27 PM

lock all of albini's band incarnations in a room with odd future for 24 hours. when you open the door, who would still be alive?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:33 PM

LOL at all the Albini apologists here. The guy is, and always has been, a massive fucking tool. I don't care who he is calling out, he's obviously a big giant pussy for not engaging them right then and there if he felt so strongly about it. Instead, like a scorned little faggot, he runs to the internet and rants because he didn't want to get his ass beat by a 19 year old in public.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:36 PM

2:36 excellent point

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:38 PM

I think i know a group that talks about raping girls, and dismembering them, and talks about how much pussy they get and how cool they are.....OH YEA!!!! ICP. So Tyler should paint his face and join them!!!! Then we only have to hate one group!!!! Problem Solved.

Posted by anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:45 PM

Yeah, that's kinda what I thought too, 2:36 (despite the fact that I think he's a helluva producer). That also sounds like something that the stereotypical BV indie losers would resort to as well. Good analysis.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:45 PM

No not an excellent point. Very easy for you to say this cos you were not there. Ultimately, he's commenting on them as artists. Perhaps you should read what he wrote once more.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:47 PM

niggers mouthing off about not getting what they want? oh, I'm talking about Albini. or maybe not.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:49 PM

2:36, you kinda don't get what he wrote, do you?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:50 PM

2:36, you kinda don't get what he wrote, do you?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:50 PM

His comment isn't based on their artistry at all. It's a rant about how offensive they were in public and they cite specific behaviors. Albini is just being the typical internet pussy. Why didn't he say something? I mean, he obviously was affected by this enough to write a multiple paragraph rant online. He didn't confront them because he knows how they would react and he's afraid they would beat him senseless. I couldn't care less about Odd fucking Future; Albini is just a moron. He should work with Noel Gallagher and they can talk about how they hate hip hop together.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:52 PM

Who would go over better at Gathering of the Juggalos?

Rapeman or Odd Future

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:53 PM

2:36: Yeah, why not take on a group of 10 or so belligerent assholes on a shuttle when you're just trying to catch a plane.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:53 PM

2:36 - Gets it perfectly. If Albini was so offended, he should have called Odd Future out on it right in that airport shuttle...not from the safety of his Macbook.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 2:59 PM

Um, 2:36, nothing he wrote implies this was a physically threatening situation - one where anyone was going to kick anyones ass or not. It simply seems the kids were bothersome, and then he thought about it all later in the day and wrote about it with some interesting quotes/anecdotes it made him think of. This has never happened to you? No one ever annoyed you and then you thought about it later on in the day?? I don't care who fucking wrote what here, how old they are or what bands they played in, the point is that odd future are little cunts and their art is shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:00 PM

Juggalos, hahaha!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:03 PM

"I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it."

Instead I posted it on the Internet so people could read my latest complaint.

What a douche.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:05 PM

Are you tools kidding me?? From the safety of YOUR macbooks talking about how someone didn't confront a group of belligerent teenagers??? Again, do you people not get that he's commenting on the worth or their art??? Call him pretentious, fine, but it has nothing to do with anyone being a pussy or not.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:07 PM

yeah totally, if a man isn't willing to get into a pointless physical altercation with a bunch of aggro dumbasses, he has no right to criticize said dumbasses.

makes perfect sense!

I bet that maxim would have worked great against the Stasi, or the SS!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:10 PM

"Hey you kids, get off my lawn!" - Albini

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:10 PM

2:36 - Albini may be a tool, but he's not stupid. Would you confront 10 rowdy guys about their disrespectful behavior when you're by yourself? I doubt it.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:11 PM

Tyler The Creator = Niggster Supreme

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:13 PM

12:23: dead-on. Albini is allowed to be upset, but we've championed hotel-trashing, misogynistic (white) punks for years. Worshipped them even. Now it's black kids doing it, with black kids trends and suddenly this behavior is reprehensible and uncool. Spoiled stars be spoiled stars.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:14 PM

The realy story here is that those cunts oddfuture were in Barcelona in the first place. Why would any self respecting Catalan want to hear that shit and how did those cunts get a visa?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:15 PM

white people do this..black people do that..


but in all seriousness Odd Future is fucking trash, its the musical equivalent of some wigger in the south wearing fubu making youtube music videos, same shitty mentality, same lack of talent and musicianship. they acted like nILACKCLASSggers, and got called out on it, simple as that. if you even remotely like Odd Future, you should be ashamed and go play russian roulette with and assault rifle..you more than likely have the sex appeal of autism. shit likes shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:24 PM

At least most Catalans won't understand them anyway.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:30 PM

I think its fucking retarded how people are so offended by him saying nigger when those apes say it to each other on the motherfucking subway.

Posted by Kurt | August 9, 2011 3:54 PM

careful, your racism is showing.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:57 PM

Albini should have started kicking ass on the shuttle. if he had any balls. which he does not. that does not change, however, what a bunch of, well, teenagers Odd Future are. We were all kind of assholes at that age.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 3:59 PM

Woah - the racisim, both overt and covert, are ridiculous! I never realized hipsters hated black people so much. That being said, it's not suprising that they wanted to go to McDonalds so badly - Black people loves them some McDonalds!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:00 PM

@Kurt 3:54 - "those apes" huh? You fucking racist coward. Next time you're on "the motherfucking subway," try calling a black person an ape to their face...then have someone let me know where your funeral will be held.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:01 PM

115 comments! Keep it coming! I've got my money on the line, just like Pete Rose!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:16 PM

putting aside the "niggering everything in sight" comment - Clearly Steve doesn't have many urban black friends in his circle (i'm black with friends from all sides of the fence, and tho i don't agree with how the communicate - black, white, brown, yellow and purple - it's never out of disrespect so i live and let live).

Can we at least agree "an asshole by any other name is still an asshole". and regardless of the 'color' added in his write up, Steve makes a good point - "assholes making music about being assholes".

Posted by KillerMike | August 9, 2011 4:17 PM

"try calling a black person an ape to their face...then have someone let me know where your funeral will be held."

Call someone a racist while suggesting that blacks are so stupid, violent and devoid of self-control that they'll murder someone over a word, why don't you?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:19 PM

"Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator."

lol. what a fucking goomba.

Posted by kp | August 9, 2011 4:20 PM

Oh wow, black people acting like animals. Now there's a shocker.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:24 PM

last time trying this: look up Albini talking about the Pixies and you'll find him bragging about groupie sex

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:27 PM

^Hey - i finally got the comment through! while we're at it, KillerMike - you have purple friends?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:28 PM

As an individual who has constantly got himself in hot water by arguing, mouthing off and being angry at people for being pricks I do understand why Albini did not confront this gang of young butt-heads directly. It would have turned into more of a problem for him and he was totally justified to use the internet to express his feelings on the situation, much in the same way Odd Future were justified in using the internet to take advantage of a backwards, pathetic music industry that feeds on falsey created hype and controversy.

It sounds like these guys were being little shits but it is also entierly likely that this was pretty funny. It would have been cool to be on the shuttle and watch Albini seethe while watching these brats in action.

Posted by "Carlo" | August 9, 2011 4:36 PM

The only cool resolution to this would have been the shuttle driving over a cliff.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:39 PM

FUCK ODD FUTURE! Douchebags galore. The stupid hipsters will regret listening to them in a few years...or dare I say FORGET them? When will good music be popular again...even on the independent scene!?? This shit is stupid, cheap, and lacking in substance. It doesn't matter that its vulgar, it just literally is shit.

Steve Albini overrated, in my humble opinion, but he's funny as hell, and HAS proved his own artistic merits in his own right.

Posted by E | August 9, 2011 4:41 PM

I hate these guys. They're awful. Glad to see they are embracing the ugly American stereotype while travelling abroad.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:42 PM

Yeah cos there are airports near cliffs. Like, duhjhjg

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 4:44 PM

steve albini should not make comments about fellow assholes period. he is the biggest there is. those OF dudes are super young worth noting. also hilarious they brag about making $50k but want to eat at McDonalds in Barcelona no less.

Posted by satchel paige | August 9, 2011 4:45 PM

Old guys like Albini just don't get it. End of story

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:00 PM

i'd love to see all the yes men behind these dudes (managers, agents, publicists, lawyeres) probably all white who have to put up with so much shit and babysit but are probably making so much money off all the niggering. not sure if its worth it. how many times has their white manager been called faggot or nigger daily?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:04 PM

aint no serprize a nigga cant get a break in dis white man werld

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:07 PM

As any functioning adult should know: Violence does not resolve conflicts.

Albini not calling them out in front of them is absolutely acceptable. Mainly for the fact that had he said something to these dipshits, the point would have totally been missed. These idiots act like this all the time. Does anyone really think that if a lone, older dude, who none of Odd Future know of, actually confronted them they would say, "Wow! We are ignorant self-absorbed pricks."? No of course not. And all of the morons here defending Odd Future need to grow the fuck up too. You're not funny or creative to anyone with a reading comprehension past the 8th grade. You're merely perpetuating the stereotype that the younger generation is as vapid as the fucking weak hip-hop this outfit produces.

I'm all for expanding the definition of free-speech, but there really should be a point to what you're saying. Being all "rape is cool", "nigga this nigga that", or "faggot this faggot that" is just kind of sad, not shocking. It doesn't make me think "Whoa. That's harsh!" or "I cant believe anyone would say that." I does, however, make me SMH and wish that they would just grow up or maybe read a fucking book. Possibly expand their vocabulary.

Posted by Anon | August 9, 2011 5:08 PM

I find the whole experience laughable and am guilty of similar behavior in my youth (hell catch me on a night drunk in the LES).

inside joke, friend turn purple (in patches) thx to a bad rash.

Posted by KillerMike | August 9, 2011 5:08 PM

thank you 5:08.

People need to realize, it's not saying faggot or whatever that's offensive. What's offensive is how stupid these people must think I am for this to be shocking or edgy to me.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:13 PM

Do these clowns just use the word faggot or do they employ all manner of anti-gay insults?
Because I like the word as an all-purpose term for wimps and pussies, and that's the way most people use it. I know a lot more hetero faggots than gays who fit the bill.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:37 PM

steve albini is a racist.... why is bv even appeasing and acknowledging his comments?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:44 PM

teenagers are sort of universally assholes, though, right?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 5:57 PM

Steve Albini's an asshole, but he's right. Black people are their own worst enemy.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:03 PM

Did anyone else just get a massive urge to punch 5:08 in the nose?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:09 PM

@6:09
I did! Oh wait...No. I wrote that comment. That would have been as dumb as what you just said. What was your point?

Posted by Anon | August 9, 2011 6:11 PM

@6:03 - Spoken by the anonymous white indie music blog commenter who holds the magic key of knowledge to the problems and setbacks of all Black people. STFU!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:14 PM

Showtime should air a series about black lesbians. Call it "The N Word."

People hate it when Steve Albini calls people on their shit for two reasons: because they can't or won't do it themselves, and that if they do, they're afraid that someone will call them on their shit in turn.

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | August 9, 2011 6:15 PM

my point is I don't subscribe to your self-rightous bullshit, and I don't think that I'm alone in that by any stretch. I mean, please ... you use disparaging descriptions to accomplish you point that this disparagement was unwarranted? With all due respect, NIGGA PLEASE. If I was there right now, I'd punch you right in the nose ... not as an act of violence, but to wake you the fuck up from your ignorant self-deulsion.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:16 PM

Just because you jive ass motherfuckers don't have any black friends don't think there are no black folk that read and comment on this board. You all ought to watch your shit if you know what's good for you.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:20 PM

^ not black.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:22 PM

^^ not correct (yes I am 6:20).

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:26 PM

people forget what was interesting about Odd Future when they first showed up. apparently, OFWGKTA has forgotten (or never got it) also.

What was cool about them was that they weren't street thug black kids, but instead they were clearly middle class skater nerd black kids.

they seemed like the kind of guys that probably hang out with a lot of white skater kids and probably watch adult swim and jackass and smoke weed.

in short: they seemed like cool kids who were harmless and smart. In their raps were capable of irony and of being self depreciating, and they didn't mind being a little geeky. They seemed like a breath of intelligent (albeit far from intellectual) fresh air for stale hip hop.

fast forward several months and the indie blog "fame" thing has got them. suddenly they think they're real hip hop hoods. They have money, and they're talking about it in an ugly way. They continue to say obnoxious shit about girls and about gay people, but it's different now because now they have access to real women, and have definitely met, hung out with, and worked with gay people. There's nothing harmless about their misogyny or homophobia anymore. It's not a joke now.

I guarantee you that their creative evolution has atrophied as of this moment and they will not be getting any better. their act is getting more arrogant, and a lot less interesting.

If only they'd had some time to develop, maybe they might have stayed fresh, and different. Instead they are becoming exactly the kind of boring hip hop stars that they once seemed to be making obsolete.

worst of all, they're living the thug life while they're still not popular with actual black people, just a bunch of limp dick white bloggers.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:27 PM

Ha! Okay. You got me. I used mean words to describe a bunch of macho, misogynistic, inflated egos that think they are actually changing the course of music. Sorry. And for that you want to punch me in the face. Laughable. I think you were probably just offended that I called you a moron too, considering you probably listen to this shit.

Don't take other people's opinion so seriously. Talk about self-righteous. If I had know you were so fragile I would have used much bigger words so that you wouldn't have understood.

Posted by Anon | August 9, 2011 6:28 PM

A lot of you are missing part of this story... Go to Electrical Audio's blog. That's where BV snipped this quote from. People were talking about Odd Future on his studio's blog. Albini chimed in and said that he had encountered this band they were "a bunch of pricks"... Then someone asked him to elaborate on that encounter and the result was this rant... It seems to be posted this on his studio's blog long after the encounter.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:31 PM

6:27 just reminded me of that scene in Swingers where Mike (John Favreau) calls that woman that he got the number from, and in the period of about 4 minutes goes from "cool Mike, yeah call me" to "urgh, what an asshole! never call me again".

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:32 PM

My bad, 6:20. You spell remarkably well for a negro person.

;-)

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:34 PM

6:28 you are a prick. you like to put people into boxes because that is how infantile minds work. I want to punch you in the nose because your are blind and asleep, because you dismiss people based upon partial, biased, and one-sided information. Wake up, my man, the day is coming fast where such behavior, your behavior, will stop being cute and start being annoying to those around you (it probably already has, you'll see when your girlfriend gets tired of your droning and leaves you for someone with more substance and humor).
So fuck off, OK?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:37 PM

[Jules, Vincent and Jimmie are drinking coffee in Jimmie's kitchen]
Jules: Mmmm! Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit! Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET shit on us! What flavor is this?
Jimmie: Knock it off, Julie.
Jules: [pause] What?
Jimmie: I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping she buys SHIT. I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It AIN'T the coffee in my kitchen, it's the dead nigger in my garage.
Jules: Oh, Jimmie, don't even worry about that...
Jimmie: [interupting] No, No, No, No, let me ask you a question. When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Nigger Storage"?
Jules: Jimmie, you know I ain't seen no...
Jimmie: [cutting him off again; getting angry] Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Nigger Storage"?
Jules: [pause] No. I didn't.
Jimmie: You know WHY you didn't see that sign?
Jules: Why?
Jimmie: 'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead niggers ain't my fucking business, that's why!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:40 PM

@Anon 5:57 - "teenagers are sort of universally assholes, though, right?"

yep...not to take this in an entirely different direction - but i think the riots in London are a clear example how teens are universally assholes...

Posted by KillerMike | August 9, 2011 6:42 PM

6:34 fuck you

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:47 PM

THANK YOU 5:08 and 6:31

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 6:59 PM

"Old guys like Albini just don't get it. End of story"
oh we old guys get it, it's young idiots like yourself that have no clue

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 7:07 PM

I enjoy eating poop

Posted by James Porter | August 9, 2011 7:08 PM

ODD FUTURE seriously make me sick.. Wonder who their manager is that bought them their "fame".

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 7:28 PM

fuck me!

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 7:30 PM

@6:37
Once again any functioning, responsible adult knows that violence doesn't resolve conflicts, so uh...good luck with that.

But I guess I do dismiss moronic kids that have nothing of value to add...soooooo...

Posted by Anon | August 9, 2011 7:35 PM

steve albini's made tons of great records but he's a crotchety ass. odd future sucks and they're probably really annoying in real life. everyone is right/wrong. can we shut up now?

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 7:51 PM

Albini is a wigga getting all pissed at niggas. Oh the irony!

The 'burg is in for some shit though when the nigsters start claiming territory.

Posted by Mr. T | August 9, 2011 8:08 PM

It would have been better if Steve just grabbed one of them and choked them till they passed out.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 8:24 PM

OFWGKTA have arguable talent, and are too juvenile to understand the implications of their stupidity. Everyone's patting them on the back for their idiocy and asshole behavior.
I like hip hop.
I like punk rock.
I'm no fan of asshole musicians making asshole music in either genre.
End of story.

Posted by Mud | August 9, 2011 8:25 PM

i've really loved all these commments but -

we tell each other stories of our run-ins with celebrity all the time - especially when they behave like gigantic self-centered assholes like odd future apparently did.

that's all steve is doing - he's chatting on a fucking sound mix forum about an encounter with them like any of us would - it's just it got picked up by the internet copy/paste machine... he's not fucking tegan and sara putting it on the front page of a blog...

Maybe they should make the forum private...

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 8:25 PM

Get any one of these little pussies by themselves and I'm sure they act like quiet little gentlemen. Prediction: I hope they really like McDonalds because they'll eventually be working there once the over-hype fades.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:13 PM

Meh.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:32 PM

To paraphrase another BV poster from earlier; "If I was under fifteen I'd think OF was funny. If I was over 60 I'd think OF was offensive. Anywhere in between I just think they're sad."

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 10:35 PM

This seems less a race issue and more a generation issue.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:01 PM

It's an idiocy issue.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:18 PM

future is here/ swag, mutherfucker, albini is the past

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2011 11:20 PM

"if she don't like it fuck her"?! way to *still* be a sexist asshole while calling out other sexist assholes ... (yes, i know he's quoting them, doesn't change anything.)

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:03 AM

11:20, I heard Earl Sweatshirt hangs out baking cookies with Frohawk every Sunday.

http://i.imgur.com/D6npa.gif

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:03 AM

Whoa, was just about to type , what does any of this have to
do with Frohawk and then someone typed Frohawk. Weird.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:13 AM

Tyler looks like the kinda kid who would suck Satans Dick!!!! bro.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 1:52 AM

i wonder what kind of weird pc hipster conundrum it is that gives OF a pass for being belligerent black kids who act like white skater kids? is it less threatening than if they dressed & acted like gangbangers?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:07 AM

Steve Albini finally shows his true racist side. His criticisms of Odd Future's music and their actions might be valid but why did he have to bring their race into the equation? If you look at Big Black's early videos where they look like they're recreating the concert scene from revenge of the nerds, or their lyrics about raping a 5 year old child I would criticize Albini personally and not dismiss his actions as" "Crackering out all over the place"

Fuck Albini's closet-conservative racist ass.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:40 AM

Funny thing... the album leaf was on that shuttle too.. Saw it on their facebook page when they got back.. He said "Odd future did not dissapoint" from everything he'd heard about them..

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 5:56 AM

Any of you calling Steve racist are just clueless little turds that don't know a fucking thing about the real world. He just spoke about them saying the "N" word a billion fucking times, it wasn't Steve saying it himself. All you little Odd Future kids need to get a fucking clue. Hopefully their 15 minutes is up soon. And to all you fools, remember, you can't play the fucking race card with everything in life. It gets old.

Posted by J. Gonzalez | August 10, 2011 7:04 AM

@ J Gonzalez

Why don't you take Albini's cock out of your ass for a while? He said OF were "niggering everything in sight". How is that not a racist comment? Fuck off with the "playing the race card" teabagger bullshit, Albini made a racist comment and should be called out on it.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 7:12 AM

Funny stuff... Idiots all around! Albini just citied what those kids were saying. He stated they could rap about whatever they want and he would respect that. But really - being an asshole on the public is just being an asshole on the public. No genre or race issue is behing. Do not look for the hidden meanings, there is nothing.
I can sing about eating the poop and drinking piss if I want to, but that doesnt mean I will bother other people with ideas for my new lyriccs on the plane in Spain.
Definitelly no race issue here.
Theese guys are just idiots, end of the story.
Or do you think Bad Brains, Living Colour and other bands consisting mainly of black people would acting like this?
Asshole is an asshole - black, white, red, yellow.

Posted by Czech mate | August 10, 2011 8:53 AM

7:12 am
Are you really so stupid or are you just pretending that?

Fact no. 1) afro-american people use the nigga (nigger) word very often, it is basically part of their nature - at least this is how it looks to foreigners (including me) from the records, movies, interviews and several personal meetings with them

Fact no. 2) It is very difficult to describe the excessive usage of the "nigga" word without actually saying that word

Just imagine the bunch of white teenagers sitting there shouting all around and say "cool" and "wicked" to everything that happens and call "bitches" all the people in their sight. Same stuff. Also pretty annoying...
How would you describe it? Probably "young kids bitching all around...."

So I believe Albini´s comment is not racists at all and you should read more carefully and think twice before you react like a retard.


Posted by Czech mate | August 10, 2011 9:13 AM

My bowl of organic popcorn and I are still enjoying this thread. Nothing like a bunch of fey morons in a slap fight. Carry on, beta males ...

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 9:38 AM

Simple question (just looking for an answer or two):

What SHOULD Steve Albini have done? What would have been the CORRECT thing to do in this instance? Anybody?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 9:41 AM

time for albini to douse himself in kerosene

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:16 AM

look at this drivel from Albini's Shellac band on song "My Black Ass":

Gonna Eat What I Pick
And I Hope You Choke On It
I'm Proud to Break a Sweat

Too Late
The Sideshow Pays
It's a Gary Cooper Story
And It Shines Like Sammy's Knee

Babe What I Pick
I Hope You Choke On It
When I Care to Reach the Dead
With a Nickel in My Hat
I Wanna Get Your Big Smile
I'm Proud to Break a Sweat
My Black Ass

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:26 AM

"My bowl of organic popcorn and I are still enjoying this thread. Nothing like a bunch of fey morons in a slap fight. Carry on, beta males ..."

Like you are with your organic popcorn, lol!

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:28 AM

I've been reading and commenting here since yesterday, but I finally feel it necessary to state the obvious... read the fucking thread where this quote came from. It stretches all the way back to last December, if I remember correctly. Get some context and a clue people. The link is right there at the end of the quote above. Okay.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:33 AM

"Like you are with your organic popcorn, lol!"

It's not really organic. I just figured in a room full of pansies that would make me more relatable.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:57 AM

How come no one has mentioned Albini's lame-ass t-shirt in that picture? Did he get it off some kiosk at the mall for 5 bucks?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 11:32 AM

^ Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is in the house!

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:18 PM

the only way this could be more annoying is if henry rollins got involved.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:21 PM

"Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is in the house!"

I was always a Straight Plan for the Gay Man myself :o

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:22 PM

i can't wait for what will be a subtle and nuanced response from tyler and his gang of fellow mensa members. perhaps it will be along the lines of: "who da fuckz steve albini" or "eat a dick faggot" or "i be makin' money an' fuckin' pussy. u just old n jealouse" it surely will be inspiring.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 12:37 PM

to many old dudes on this website talking about kids.

what you don't understand they having fun whereever they go entertaing themselves while your old ass siting alone in a corner staring at them cause you werent raised around black people and are afraid of them

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 1:22 PM

I sho nuff be afraid

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 1:25 PM

to 1:22
nope, i was raised around idiots like these. i was sick of them then and i'm sick of them now. try again...

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 1:42 PM

how many $50k paydays did big black have?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 1:56 PM

@1:56 - probably zero, truly.
@1:22 - that seems really thought out to have such ridiculous grammar (forced?)

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:07 PM

Who the fuck is Steve Albini. A nobody

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:16 PM

@ 2:16
Who the fuck is Steve Albini?
somebody with a level of intelligence unattainable by yourself, tyler and other flash in the pan shit hop bands. somebody with an awesome body of work as both a musician and producer. the singer of big black who put out music many times more abrasive and threatening than any jerk off posturing hip hop crew could ever think of matching. who are you?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:25 PM

I think what alot of people are missing is that theyre so young, like 20 is the average age. Being loud and pissing people off is funny and a good way to pass the time

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:28 PM

LOL This Steve Albino guy is a fag.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:41 PM

2:28, I'm 20 and people that are loud and pissing people off are tools. A good way to pass time for me is to party and hang-out, but not piss any one off. We have this general sentiment that anyone can drink with us- just open the cooler- but you can't drink a beer and then talk shit about us. Then we'll fuck your ass up.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 2:48 PM

Since nobody answered a simple question, I'll post it again:

What SHOULD Steve Albini have done? What would have been the CORRECT thing to do in this instance? Anybody?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:08 PM

I would've gone Rambo on their asses, but no, no I chilled. Five points to the first person who gets the reference.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:18 PM

OFWGKTADGAFLSLLBB FREE EARL FUCK STEVE ALBINO.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:24 PM

Who the fuck says "Niggering everything in sight". Thats when you know you're a bit too old to be using the computer. OFWGKTADGAFLLLSBB SUCK A COUPLE PIMPLE COVERED DICKS FREE EARL FUCK STEVE ALBINO.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:26 PM

you know you're too young to use the computer unsupervised when you type in all caps

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:41 PM

Shellac = kikerock

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:46 PM

putting a stolen morgue picture of an axe-murdered person on your album cover doesn't hurt anyone - wouldn't bother the guy's family at all, would it Steve? asshole.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:55 PM

oops - i'm remembering it was a shotgun blasted face? whatever - same issue.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 3:57 PM

funny that this albini is so sensitve now when he did not care who he offended with his insulting, boring music. now he's out punked by a bunch of teenagers, sad that some get older & lose all sense of humor. swag///keep buying Goblin

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:05 PM

Well, I'll be fucked, the comment section passed 200. Nice job. But I lost my bet and I'm out of Heineken money now :(

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:22 PM

If you drink Heineken you should probably just die anyway.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:29 PM

^ You're just jealous that you can't afford anything other than shitty PBR (which will proabably make you die anyway from vomiting too much).

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:38 PM

"Heineken - Fuck that shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon!!!"

- Frank Booth

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:40 PM

It killed Dennis Hopper.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 4:50 PM

No, 4:38. I'm equally partial to high end craft beer and bottom of the barrel cheapo beer, I just find paying more premium prices for shit like Heineken to be ludicrous.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 5:20 PM

next person who says swag in a post deserves a shotgun to the face

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 5:45 PM

SWAG

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:00 PM

we should all listen to some Jack Johnson and mellow out

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:01 PM

Who cares about this man? Big Black and Shellac suck, and just because he produced some Pixie records doesn't mean he contributed to the actual writing of those albums. Amazing Producer? Maybe to the punk rock, indie scene...

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:06 PM

shit yo now we talkin, jack jonssun got swag like a mothafucka. and that nigga fiiiiine too. gimme dat baby bata

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:14 PM

WHITE POWER

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:17 PM

what does Ian Mackaye think of them?

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:35 PM

tl;dr:

"I was on a bus at the same time as Odd Future. They were annoying, but didn't affect me directly. I wrote an essay to complain, because that's the cool thing to do. Please buy tickets to my shows."

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:37 PM

You shits are just jealous cos you're on the internet all day trying to be heard, eating shit, and Albini tells a little story on a small forum and everyone is talkin about it. And not only that, most are agreeing with him and applauding him. Keep being a whiney little shit. Keep sucking odd future dick.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:39 PM

Odd Future fans: the internet won't give you any more attention than than your mom and dad, who also hate you and ignore you.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:42 PM

Odd Future is the future the haters created. Gulp the excretion, bitches!

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 6:44 PM

1) To the moron who said airports are never near cliffs, read http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article4268167.ece

2) I bet they pronounced it "MacDonalds"

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 7:16 PM

Steve gets good drum sounds.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 7:17 PM

"what does Ian Mackaye think of them?"

Fuck that, what does Nick DiPaolo think of them? Way more important.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 7:23 PM

Tyler is in the closet.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 8:02 PM

I see this whole convo is posted on BrooklynVegan.com. Good to see how racist and condescending you guys come off here. Are you guys the urban, liberal, "enlightened" gentry that we always hear about? Good to see how you losers really think.

Posted by John | August 10, 2011 8:13 PM

^^ no you

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 10:31 PM

Gentry, 8:13? You're looking at the largest collection of dullwitted semi-employed New York losers this side of Gawker. And as to the enlightened part, they just spew the socio-political vomit typical of everyone who was ignored in high school and still resents it.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2011 11:40 PM

Couldn't agree more with you two, well said.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 12:00 AM

11:40, what up Todd P

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 12:38 AM

Comment at 10:13pm hit the nail on the head. Dipshit pack behavior transcends race and culture. Assertively confront any one of these little assholes without 5 or 6 of his buddies and he'd back down like a scared dog.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 3:31 AM

Yes. Steve Albini tour.

Posted by Skip Bojangles | August 11, 2011 5:51 AM

This is what we get for Freeing slaves...thanks alot Abe Lincoln you douche

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 8:25 AM

It took me 20 minutes and I'm not even halfway down the comments, shits crazy!

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 1:03 PM

fight me at a show faggots

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 1:39 PM

ALBINI - OG IN THE GAME. Respect the Legend!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 1:57 PM

Imagine if it was Steve Albini and GG Allin instead.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 2:21 PM

i like turtles

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 5:57 PM

WHO?

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2011 6:41 PM

STEVE ALBINI tells it like it is! Props to this man. He is 100% correct. No grumpy old man crap is going on - he called it like he saw it - he's just being HONEST! You fakers can just go suck on your **** ***'s ****

Posted by The Real | August 11, 2011 11:28 PM

hahahhahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. this dudes a bitch. fuck steve. fuck the stupid faggots tht agree with him. fuck you. fuck yo mom. suck ten dicks and die, hoe.(:

Posted by Jayy | August 12, 2011 11:06 AM

tyler the creator is payimg attention: 11:06 is obviously him

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2011 2:25 PM

20 years ago I listened to a lot of Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, EPMD, etc. Lost interest in the 90's when the gangster/pimp thing became dominant. A few years ago, I watched "Rock the Bells", the Wu-Tang reunion documentary. As I was watching, I had a realization: Hip Hop is a fraud. But so is the lion's share of popular culture and it's been that way for at least a century. Someday, sooner than than he will like, Mr. Tyler will be even older than he thinks Mr. Albini is. No one will remember him and no one probably should.

Posted by Darryl | August 12, 2011 11:58 PM

i'm 8 years old and what is this?

Posted by Anonymous | August 13, 2011 6:40 PM

6:40, SHUT UP!

Posted by Anonymous | August 13, 2011 8:17 PM

smart man

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2011 2:54 PM

I just saw Shellac tonight. 20 years waiting to see this awesome, intelligent and provocative band. I can tell you he's no racist- he's a realist. He's calling out these idiots with whom he had this experience. And he's commenting on their language, attitude, and complete typicality and disregard for anything that isn't their flavor. They're popular, and they don't understand anything else nor understand why they should. They don't care, they're rude, and he had to share a ride with them while listening to them be selfish arrogant assholes smoking dope and thinking of themselves as artists. He's given so much to the world of art and music. He's original and creative. He's not in it for the fame, the money, or anything else that anyone but you idiots would deem shallow or superficial. He's spent years being a nice guy (genuinely) and putting hard work into countless artistic masterpieces. You don't know who he is? Google him and find out. You'll see who the legend here is, and realize that everything mentioned in this article is pretty damned true.

Posted by Anonymous | October 18, 2011 3:54 AM

Niiiiiiiiiiigggeeeeerrrss!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 6:31 AM

I love that I stumbled across this. I've been looking for some OF hate for a while, because most of my friends/everyone I know seems to be digging them at the moment. It fucking irritates me, because artists who are actually artists, and that can actually spit out some decent lyrics, get no light these days. You need to be a psuedo-creative, hipster, dumbass. I honestly believe that Lady GaGa is a hundred times more talented than these fake fucks.

Posted by Anonymous | February 21, 2012 9:33 AM

I fucking hate niggers

Posted by Anonymous | February 23, 2012 2:17 PM

Maybe Steve Albini should think back to his early shows with Big Black and how offensive he and his cohorts used to be. Odd Future are just children...it helps to be reminded of that fact. The issue here isn't behaviour, but ageism.....

Posted by Music Fan | April 12, 2012 8:16 AM

A message to the people pouring all sorts of racist garbage onto this issue...I don't blame you...I blame your parents....ignorant jerks.

Posted by Music Fan | April 12, 2012 8:25 AM

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