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Posted in music | tour dates on August 17, 2011
this is where TV on the Radio is playing (via bwilliamsPR)

News is spreading quick that TV on the Radio are apparently playing a free outdoor Heineken show on the corner of Lafayette & Great Jones in NYC right now or at 7:30 or at 8:00. The truth seems to be somewhere along the lines of them already being there and setting up and the actual show/taping happening... soon (8 I think).
Update: It happened. here the pictures.
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Definitely happening...8 pm
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 7:14 PM
omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
http://i.imgur.com/D6npa.gif
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 7:19 PM
I liked them more when they weren't shilling for shit beer.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 7:36 PM
They started at 8 almost on the dot. Staring at the Sun playing now!
Posted by Venkman | August 17, 2011 8:11 PM
damn best band out there...
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:17 PM
WHO!??!
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:27 PM
pretty lame tvor....pretty lame
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:40 PM
do you think TVOR had to sign over the penises as part of the deal?
Those aren't men.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:46 PM
was frohawk there?
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:55 PM
What a drag. TV on the radio just made a pile of cash. How stupid are they? I mean, I wouldn't play a gig for a pile of money.
You people are fucking numbskulls.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 8:57 PM
I hope Frohawk plays on stage with TVOTR like he did with The New Pornographers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxigl9SF9Zo
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:00 PM
I hope Frohawk sings on stage with TVOTR like he did with The New Pornographers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxigl9SF9Zo
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:00 PM
Playing corporate gigs is lame. Playing in front of their billboards like spineless little puppets is even lamer. Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself.
But that's how the game goes.
When you make a move like this, in five years time you could be in one of the biggest bands in the world, or you could just as easily wind up working at Home Depot.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:10 PM
http://twitpic.com/18swzq
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:11 PM
I don't think Frohawk goes to corporate gigs.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:13 PM
why is frohawk's jacket two sizes too small?
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:13 PM
9:13- I had the same question.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:15 PM
http://twitpic.com/i6tvw
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:15 PM
While I love every record (even their last one, which no one seems to give a shit about), they were fucking boring at MHOW, and it doesn't sound like Radio City was much better. How could a Heineken pop-up venue possibly be anything other than terrible?
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:21 PM
I remember seeing them at Luxx. I lost interest years ago, seeing them doing shit like this makes me remember why.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:25 PM
i'm embarassed to admit it, but that video made my day just a little bit better...
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 9:54 PM
yeah, free shows are so lame. some of you are quite el douche!
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:03 PM
"Playing corporate gigs is lame. Playing in front of their billboards like spineless little puppets is even lamer. Personally, I'd be ashamed of myself.
But that's how the game goes.
When you make a move like this, in five years time you could be in one of the biggest bands in the world, or you could just as easily wind up working at Home Depot."
Are you some kind of a fucking trust fund idiot who thinks money grows on trees, or gets magically added to your bank account on a weekly basis? Being in a band is a job. If you can make a bundle in a single gig, fuck all, you do it. If you are going to write off a band for doingor for being WILLING a corporate gig (cough cough HOUSE OF VANS) a) you're a fucking moron and b) you don't like a single band.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:03 PM
My eyes just told me that Frohawk just took a lot of you cynical, spineless fucks to school
Posted by Edward | August 17, 2011 10:06 PM
Holee shit. That video is actually real and awesome. Frohawk for life.
Oh, and TVOTR was cool. When was the last time you stood in the streets and watched a great band in a Manhattan parking lot?
Heineken still tastes like shit, and TVOTR just made a boat load of money.
Who loses here? No one.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:06 PM
Now every cheap hood strikes a bargain with the world,
Ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl.
Love 'n hate tattooed across the knuckles of his hands,
Hands that slap his kids around, 'cause they don't understand how,
Death or glory, becomes just another story.
Death or glory, becomes just another story.
RIP, TVOTR
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:13 PM
@10:03 amen. music industry is going to shit and an actually halfway decent band is making money and playing a FREE show for the fans. that is the future, people, and if you are going to bitch about it then get in your time machine and go sing kumbaya.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:14 PM
You know, my first reaction to this was FUCK THAT NOISE but then I listened to that bangin' new summer single from CONVERSE with COKEHEAD, CORPORAPPER, and THE TWEEFUCKS, and it really got me in a solid positive mental headspace you guys.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:15 PM
frohawk owns your lame asses.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:27 PM
10:03- Are you justifying selling out?
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:27 PM
it be funny if they covered fugazi again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6oQbj6jIE
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:32 PM
goddamn frohawk
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:33 PM
"10:03- Are you justifying selling out?"
Selling out and cashing in are two different things. I am saying they are SMARTLY cashing in
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:34 PM
You fucks defending this kind of behavior disgust me. Do you even know what Rock n' Roll is?!?!?!
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:55 PM
"Do you even know what Rock n' Roll is?!?!?!"
Evidently you don't have a fucking clue.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 10:59 PM
They did not just randomly pick Frohawk, and he will stop at nothing to be buddies with a band like a teachers pet.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:05 PM
holy shit that frohawk video. this fat fuck has no life. get a job!
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:09 PM
Seriously, who are these people saying this band sold out, and claiming those who support corporate sponsorship don't know what Rock is?????
Rock and Roll is, like pretty much everything else, a business. Whether it's making music with the point is accruing money, fans, or both (or something else entirely) is up to the band. You can either like the music they're playing, or not, but when you start caring about how these people live their lives (and trust me, caring whether or not they're willing to play for 20 minutes on top of a billboard for good money is caring a little too deeply about their lives, and a little less about their music) then I believe it is you who has lost a sense of what Rock and Roll is.
Essentially, your job as a consumer is to consume the music. Unless you know these guys personally, you have no idea what their value system is. If you don't like their music, fine, but how can you possibly argue about something that's free to you? Do you have to drink the beer? No.
God Bless America!
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:19 PM
Amen, 11:05.
Attention Frohawk: You do not need to be best fucking friends with every band.
I had to unfollow Neko Case on Twitter because she kept retweeting fuckin' Frohawk.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:25 PM
11:19 complete horseshit. The music industry is certainly a business but for many people music transcends that unpleasantness. Believe it or not, there are tons of us musicians who work jobs, so we can be free from equating music to a business, or reducing our culture and art to a paycheck.
And fuck TVOTR. They absolutely used the resources, ethos and support of the independent music community to elevate themselves to the lofty position as beer salesmen. I'm sure Corey Rusk and others who where amongst there initial supporters are real proud of them.
If they want to go and be a part of some soulless Madison ave mainstream PR culture, that's there right, but don't expect the rest of us to keep our mouths shut and not point out that they're behaving like assholes.
Good luck TVOTR, you've turned off your fans who actually like music. I hope these new fans your courting with this kind of sensationalized advertisement/ PR stunt shilling will stick with you past your fifteen minutes.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:32 PM
Apparently no one on here cares about art for its own sake.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:34 PM
11:54 figures the pro corporate shilling dude would be anti frohawk. Shame on you.
and lulz at you following Neko Case on Twitter. You seem like a cool guy....
lulz
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:34 PM
yeah pretty soon death grips will be playing a heineken sponsored show on a billboard
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:39 PM
just because no one will offer you money to stand on a billboard and play music doesn't mean you have to get all jealous when other artist try and be cool and put free shows on for their fans.....
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:41 PM
ah, here we go. i knew there would be a shit storm against corporate music somehow today, i thought it was gonna be on the girl talk post, but nope, it's here. glad to see it.
this makes me wonder two things:
-what do you people think of bands, any band, that play a talk show or some sort of tv show. is playing on letterman of kimmel the same as selling out?
-what about all the mini festivals and venues bands play. think of summer screen tonight. some hip cool band played before waynes world (wasn't there, i forget what they were called) that was sponsored by jet blue, vitamin water, pop chips, among others.
what about 4 knots, that had qdoba and xxl energy drinks as sponsors? hey, mr. dream, you played a corporate show. fucking sellout!!
oh, and the clash quote, 10:13, is lame. like the clash has never been in played in a movie or used in an ad.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:45 PM
11:41 weak argument. Just because people think this is lame doesn't mean they're jealous or anti-capitalist or anything else. It's possible to make money doing your art without having to resort to this kind of mockery. I always like the story where a major label was courting Fugazi and they offered Ian Mackaye his own label and a million dollars, to which he replied, ""I already have my own label and a million dollars."
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:48 PM
TV on the Corporate Stage playing songs best suited for Radio advertisements.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:49 PM
howlongdid they play for? and how are they serving their fans when no one knows about it until 10 minutes before and in this big city - that is not enough time.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:50 PM
how long till Frohaw visits Neko at her farm?
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:51 PM
Life is a fucking game. A racket, a schill a blah blah blah blah.
They played on the roof, I danced in the street, it was awesome, and fuck anything about sell outs and bullshit. Take the money and run I say. If Weiden and Kennedy is gonna put this on, thats great. TVOTR already put there music in commercials, like a hundred other bands figuring out a way to make money in the new paradigm of music 'industry'. Hate the game, not the players. Blah blah blah. I'm drunk.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:59 PM
Their not there. Sorry. I hate that shit too.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:59 PM
yeah a joint effort between Heineken International, Universal Music Group,@bwilliamsPR aka Brian Williams (NYC marketing professional), and TV on the Radio.
It doesn't get any lamer than this kids.
Anyone who thinks this is a rock and roll show is a deluded fool, a conspirator, an apologist, or someone who's never actually been to a rock and roll show.
Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2011 11:59 PM
I think that Frohawk is one of the few people currently trying to live the rock-n-roll lifestyle. His life seems to be entirely about music. He plays in a band all day- I think and barely has any money so he eats pita chips and hummus.. he overendulges so he has a round belly. Then he goes to all the shows.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:00 AM
right on 11:32. how dare they play their own music in front of their fans who want to hear it and then have the nerve to not charge them a dime because Heineken is picking up the tab. Meanwhile on your end you're probably drinking Miller while on your Apple computer looking at child porn while you jerk off into your Martha Stewart towels you bought at Kmart
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:01 AM
Don't want no cash
Don't need no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Pepsi
Ain't singin' for Coke
I don't sing for nobody
Makes me look like a joke
This note's for you.
Ain't singin' for Miller
Don't sing for Bud
I won't sing for politicians
Ain't singin' for Spuds
This note's for you.
Don't need no cash
Don't want no money
Ain't got no stash
This note's for you.
I've got the real thing
I got the real thing, baby
I got the real thing
Yeah, alright.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:05 AM
12:05, Thanks Neil.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:06 AM
nice lyrics but Neil Young and TV On The Radio are from two completely different eras of music. If you can't see that then you're more retarded than most of the people who post here
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:12 AM
i don't know about you guys, but i want my rock and roll to play in little bars and tiny venues for the rest of their lives. i hope they don't get paid more than $100 a gig, and they only play for me and my friends, you know, kids who are hip to shit. i want my rock and roll to never grow and expand and further their horizons. i want my rock and roll to say: "no thank you" whenever big wigs come about, or they start to get good buzz from blogs and websites. i don't want to see my rock and roll on tv, and i never, jesus christ, never ever ever ever, hear them on any sort of radio. unless it's like, spotify or maybe, just maybe, npr. but even that would mean they're getting credit and being payed attention to, and i never want that to happen to my rock and roll. i never want a lot of people to like them because that just leads to the downward spiral that tvotr, and so many other bands fall into.
yeah, i want my rock and roll to sweat and bleed and pray that enough kids come to their tiny local shows so they can get money to feed themselves and maybe be able to sleep in a safe place, like their car. cause that's the only way good music and art is made.
fuck corporate stuff.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:15 AM
Why do the people who are the most pathologically averse to capitalism feel so compelled to be parasites in urban monuments to it such as New York?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:16 AM
12:12 ethics are ethics. As an idea, they're not malleable to marketplace conditions.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:18 AM
11:32 can't get signed.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:20 AM
You generation Y kids are really brainwashed. I guess you never knew it any other way.
Maybe it's a good thing though.
Perhaps this absolute lack of any political conciseness, autonomy, or ethics will lead to a rebirth of underground music scenes. That would be cool, because this shit is real, real, lame.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:21 AM
I can't tell if 12:15 is supposed to a joke or not
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:21 AM
Ethics my ass. Not compromising on your artistic output is the only fucking thing that matters. Everything else is the fruits of your labor or the lack thereof. Only idiots believe otherwise.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:23 AM
how in the fuck is this any different than going to any venue on the planet who has deals with certain beer companies to only serve their product? You see those signs and banners all over the place. It has no impact on the music itself
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:24 AM
"I can't tell if 12:15 is supposed to a joke or not"
That's because you're a moron.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:24 AM
I did not went to this show 'cos I was working, something that people in this blog are not used to do it. "Oh my god, TVOTR sold their souls to the devil!". Give me a break. For me Heineken can do free concerts of cool bands for free the whole year. I wont have to pay and the band make money. Oh!? You want to fight the man? Ok, so move your fat ass of your couch and do something.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:27 AM
12:27- I will fight the man. When I'm off of vacation.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:29 AM
i think what we should be worried about is not *where* a band plays, but how they sound. will tvotr magically sound dramatically different tomorrow now that they've played in front of a heineken billboard? nope. it's the bands that change their sound to fit the sort of fan base they need in order to keep afloat that are sell outs. not the same hardworking, talented musicians who decide to play A corporate sponsored show, but still rock the shit out of their songs, are still good to their fans (even the ones that hate them for "taking corporate money"), and still try their hardest to come out with quality songs.
the bands that arn't passionate are the sell outs, not the ones who want to feed themselves.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:29 AM
@12:24
actually its because he sounds like a retard. and by he I mean you who probably wrote it
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:32 AM
This isn't as bad as radio. Don't start with me on fucking radio. Clear channel can suck my fucking dick. Its complete bullshit- every song is the same on every channel because they get paid to play it. Fuck the man.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:34 AM
"how in the fuck is this any different than going to any venue on the planet who has deals with certain beer companies to only serve their product? You see those signs and banners all over the place. It has no impact on the music itself"
ummm...because TVOTR have decided to directly align themselves, their band, and their music with the beer company itself. More than that they hired a PR firm to promote this media stunt (and yeah it's a media stunt not a show) and then decided to perform their music and their songs in front of billboards therefore becoming de facto corporate spokesman. This has nothing to do with music....at all. This is corporate marketing trying to exploit the social capital of a community that once welcomed and supported TVOTR. They in turn decided to cash in on that good will for a paycheck despite the act being in direct contrast with the beliefs of the community in which they had once chosen to participate in and benefited from.
This is scab shit.
Fuck TV on the Radio.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:36 AM
TVOTR's new album is complete shit anyway. It fucking sucked. There last two were good- but this had to much mehwave. It seemed like the album was recorded when the band had a hummus defiecency.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:37 AM
Seriously, fuck Frohawk's fat, smelly ass.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:41 AM
"the beliefs of the community " are you somehow the mayor of this community? what the fuck makes you say its in contrast with beliefs you know nothing about. The show actually helps the community because of the people it brings into it who then spend more money once in this community
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:42 AM
"actually its because he sounds like a retard. and by he I mean you who probably wrote it"
I'll defer to your judgment, as I'm quite certain that you're surrounded by retards in your work and social life.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:43 AM
actually its only when I come onto this site
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:46 AM
This rock and roll purity buffoon can't even make an intelligent argument. He emotes like a teenage girl. Fucking scary that this dude hasn't grown the hell up and gotten clue one about life, yet he's talking shit about Generation Y.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:48 AM
12:42 are you aware at all of Touch & Go records. Do you know who Corey Rusk is? Do you know anything about their history or their beliefs?
I'm beginning to think you don't know much about the underground music scene at all. You come across like a real outsider. You come across like a square who works at JWT or something and is trying to get his finger on the pulse of how to endear himself to 18-35 year old demographic.
And hahaha at "The show actually helps the community because of the people it brings into it who then spend more money once in this community " this has to be the biggest bunch of corporate spin doctor bull shit ever. The underground doesn't want to make money this way. They see it as shameful or whorish.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:50 AM
so you find out a band you like is playing a free show. great!
but then you find out that this free show is being.... sponsored. by an actual company no less. gosh, that's so gross. what -sell outs-.
but wait! you can still enjoy the band at this show! answer the following questions:
is the band holding you down and forcing you to drink/wear/eat/fuck their sponsor's products? yes or no?
do you think watching said band at this particular show will brainwash you to drink/wear/eat/fuck said sponsor's products? yes or no?
do you think seeing one more ad today, after all the ads you were exposed to today, will change your mind on what you do, say or think? yes or no?
is seeing a billboard right next to the stage mesmerize you so much that you won't be able to pay attention to the band? yes or no?
do you even give a shit about the sponsor? do you think you'll give a shit after you see one single ad or them? yes or no?
if you said no to most of these questions, then no fear friend! it looks like you can stop being a grumpy guy, and go out and have fun, seeing a band you really like.
enjoy the show!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:54 AM
i hate music blogs
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:55 AM
You don't sound any smarter than in your last pathetic stab, 12:50. Don't you have toilets to scrub?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:57 AM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that all politics aside, the shows suck. What kind of tool wants to stand like an asshole and watch some dude shimmy in front of a Heineken Billboard? people who go to shit like this are the same type of assholes who stand out in front of Today Show like starstruck yokels.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:59 AM
12:50 likes to pretend hes so underground and original not realizing hes on a fucking blog arguing over what constitutes selling out. All of which is being done a computer he spent around $1500 on thanks to all the disposable income he has from his office job. That doesn't sound very underground to me
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:00 AM
1:00 that's not even a coherent argument. That's just mindless shit kicking. But, what you see, is what you deserve.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:03 AM
see name
Posted by anonymous is a cock suck | August 18, 2011 1:04 AM
12:59 yep, it's very TRL like. Not cool.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:07 AM
The dude is whacking off to Touch & Go as though - as evidenced by the fact that TVOTR is on a Big Boy label now - indies aren't minor league baseball at least as much as they are a fucking juvenile lifestyle choice.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:07 AM
^why are you even involved in the art scene? You sound like an MBA who sucks at his job. Quit wasting your time with music....you don't get it.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:13 AM
^ Some people simply like the music they like, and they manage to do so without being enveloped in a fog of stupid. It's quite liberating, actually. I imagine that pretty much everything about your life sucks, but you have the moronic illusion of purity!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:16 AM
I so not support corporate hummus... I prefer Bobbi's over Sabra.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:18 AM
Sabra used to be on Touch & Go, then it sold out and started showing up in supermarkets. Tribe was on early Sub Pop, but it sucked then as it does now, so who's to really say it sold out?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:25 AM
Everyone here seemed to miss snack time. I know I get grumpy when deprived of my needs of hummus everyday. I become agitated, grumpy, my pupils dilate, and anxious. Hummus-withdrawl seems to have taken BV by storm tonight.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:26 AM
i wonder how you guys would bitch if a show was sponsored by a corporation you enjoyed?
oh yeah, i forgot. you people hate everything, so even something like brooklyn brewery sponsoring a show would be dumb, right?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:26 AM
I suppose that if Pabst Blue Ribbon sponsored shows they'd lose their indie ironic cachet. How's about Ray Ban?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:31 AM
but pbr does sponsor shows. or is that bull riding. i forget.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:34 AM
Pbr is bullriding.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:36 AM
are they still playing?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:42 AM
i love chillwave!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:56 AM
Ok, who wins and loses in this game.
WIN: Heineken. They get publicity.
WIN: TVOTR. They get money from Heineken.
WIN: TVOTR hardcore fans who don't care care if Heineken, Sabra, or Chevrolet are sponsoring a FREE show.
WIN: Bloggers, your friends, and the random passersby who might have never even heard of TVOTR and discover them for the first time.
LOSE: All of you douchebag commenters who think they are selling out for this one show.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:43 AM
my slogan is if corporate is trying to be cool, then let them try. better their dollar being spent than mine. if you elitists want to spend $$ and see TV on the Radio then go ahead.
Noone has mentioned that they're playing Virgin Mobile Fest either. That's an entire day of free music. You gonna bitch about that too????
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:47 AM
Marketers are inherently reactive. They wouldn't sponsor things like this if they didn't already know the douches that like their product or service liked this kind of music as well. It's reinforcement, not inducement. Is anyone actually stupid enough to think that, for instance, malt liquor and menthol cigarettes advertise in the ghetto for any reason other than the fact that hoodrats have established a preference for these things?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:58 AM
anyone miss the harlem shakes?
me neither
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:00 AM
is it too late to ask where/what/who is frohawk?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:16 AM
This band has never BEEN Rock and Roll!! Total garbage! That said, take the money and run TVOTR! All you delusional little college aged gnats should be fucking pissed on! It's all business folks, either get on the bus or get the fuck out of the way. It's amazing how diluted and naive some of you little assholes yelling "sell-out" sound. Listen, Mommy and Daddy sold out when they decided to spawn another lazy piece of shit that society has to interact with on a daily basis. When you find yourself at 35 with your little foggy world of ideals crashing down around you, will you kill yourself? I fucking hope so.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:18 AM
you suck.
no, you suck.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:40 AM
Clown shit.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:48 AM
wow 3:18..thats what i wanted to say..thank you..but how can you listen to a song like "wolf like me" and say these guys have never been rock n roll?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 4:11 AM
1:13 thinks this is the art scene. lol
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 4:21 AM
when someone commented in a post (forget which one) earlier this week about how this was happening I thought it was a total joke... yikes
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 5:43 AM
it is a free show. worry not kids
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 7:53 AM
People told me I needed to check TVOTR out, saw them a few times early on years ago including in someone's apartment. They have always sucked and been overhyped. Can we please get back to talking about Death Grips?
Posted by Frohawk Wept | August 18, 2011 8:42 AM
So did anyone actually go to this show? Was the sound shitty? Was the crowd lame?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:17 AM
would you rather pay cover or have Heini foot the bill?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:23 AM
Who.
The.
Fuck.
Cares?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:42 AM
You know who bitches about a band being subsidized by a product or brand? Someone whose band was turned down or not even considered to be subsidized by a product or brand.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:47 AM
setlist?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:50 AM
so no one is on heineken's side? they've let me see the following artists this year for free, with open bars each time: j cole, pusha t, big sean, kanye west, kid cudi, mr. hudson, tv on the radio, cyhi da prince, girl talk, matt and kim.
i don't see how you can complain about something like that unless you just hate the world/your life.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:01 AM
can yall skip hov tn? id like more free heinys.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:04 AM
I sfound it starting on my walk home and it was fucking sick! totr for free? I'll take that any day.
Set list:
Staring at The Sun
Repetition
Wolf Like Me
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:18 AM
9:10 - a statement made by those with nothing that anyone wants to buy.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:23 AM
9:42: Apparently
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Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:25 AM
Main point here. The new album really SUCKS...cringeworthy lyrics backed by tiresome grooves. With that said, I think a free concert is very much deserved by fans who shelled out $$ for the last 2 albums. Stop crying and enjoy yourself...for FREE!!!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:25 AM
TV on the (corporate) Radio's (payroll)
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:26 AM
wrong demographic Heineken. only black people who don't know better drink it, or b&t euro trash ravers do.
better off getting wiz khalifa or some neo-soul act or international DJ.
Posted by freddy mercury | August 18, 2011 10:28 AM
Boring. Maybe if a decent band was playing I'd skip work. But I'll TVotR to their own devices and only entertain their undying trust-funder fans that have no day jobs.
Posted by Anon | August 18, 2011 10:30 AM
Corporate Rock Still Sucks.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:45 AM
I wish a beer that didn't taste like horse piss would sponsor something.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:47 AM
Well no worries, PBR won't be sponsoring anytime soon. That's a start.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:56 AM
Reading these comments, I'm amazed how people who claim to be into independent/underground music will willingly defend bands that bend over for their corporate overlords with arguments that amount to "I gotta get paid." But its par for the course, as every indie band wants sell their souls for some of that corporate ca$h.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:58 AM
how come 10:47 knows what horse piss tastes like?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:59 AM
10:58 spoken like a true communist
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:10 AM
It's a free show? What's the problem. All free shows are paid for by sponsorships. What's the different between Bud and Helio sponsoring the Jelly shows? Are you all just upset that this sponsorship seems to have been more successful-- ie. you all noticed it.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:22 AM
If a beer company want to pay me to perform, I'd do it. I drink beer. I like money. I like performing. Sounds like a win-win-win to me! The fact that they're doing a corporate sponsored gig does not change the quality or the creativity of their music.
Why not hug a tree and move into a log cabin upstate and live off the land?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:23 AM
i'm surprised no one countered my post from 11:45. you kids seriously cannot rip on tvotr, but then go to other free indie events and not complain. those are being sponsored by bigwigs as well.
can't have it both ways kids.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:29 AM
What's funny is that some of the same people who bitch about TVOTR playing a free corporate sponsored show, are willing to pay $250 a pop to see Kanye and Jay-Z. It's ok for hiphop artists controlled by LiveNation to be raping us of our money, but it's not ok for a quirky rock band to play for free, paid for by beer money.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:29 AM
10:47 - move to Colorado
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:31 AM
12:23: Haha, some honesty at last! Nice I agree too.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:32 AM
TVOTR free Heineken sponsored gig >>> people who use the phrase "b&t" in 2011
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:38 AM
^ I don't even know what "b&t" means.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:49 AM
^^ it means bridge & tunnel, an 80s reference to those who live outside of Manhattan. The folks that use it are 100% from somewhere else (Iowa or Indiana, probably) and think that it's use puts them in some rarefied group of culturistas. Well, as a lifelong NY'er I can confirm that it doesn't do that, but it does expose them as the interlopers that they are. Fucking tourists.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:08 PM
12:08 - Agreed. This term is also used by Long Island/Westchester rich kids who move to Manhattan after college, subsidized by Daddy.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:18 PM
^^ OK b&t
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:40 PM
There's a lot of corporate cock sucking apologists in this thread, huh?
I'm happy to see people rightly giving bands shit for doing crap like this. They absolutely deserve it. The defenders of this behavior are likely being paid to defend it (i.e: they work in an industry that is dependent on corporate marketing and are essentially defending themselves), or are lazy, shitty people that can't think past "Yay a free concert! I like beer!"
This is embarrassing for TVotR. Period.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:48 PM
wow - on the scene pretty quick!
yet still no coverage of the Balkans - Gary War - Team Robespierre - Crystal Antlers show @ Glasslands?
weak, you'll be on the Balkans soon enough (late)
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:53 PM
it's not being an apologist at all. it's being someone who understands that EVERYTHING is sponsored, whether you pay for it or not. would you people be saying the same thing if this tvotr gig forced people to pay 20 bucks a ticket. it's still sponsored by heinekin, but now you're paying. would that make it any better?
the real shame is you people who are instantly saying that tvotr, or any other band that has played a "corporate sponsored show" is all of a sudden horrible. have they changed their look or sound? have they changed how they feel about their fans or how hard they work? no....?? so they're still the same band, but they, for one instance, decided to be paid differently for a gig.
and if you're hating on them, get ready to hate on a ton of other bands. how many, old and new, have you heard on commercials, seen in print ads, or done shows where there's been a banner or something around the stage? a ton.
again, this is not being an apologist. this is still sticking with a band you've been a fan of for years, instead of turning your back and burning their shit after one stupid, stinking show.
get over yourself.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 12:58 PM
12:58. Amen, brotha. I used to think like 12:48. Then I got a job and grew up.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:25 PM
to 12:48: "get over yourself"
+1
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:28 PM
I'm a crappy person because I like free concerts by bands that otherwise are not very mainstream, sponsored by a company that makes a beverage I like to drink.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 1:30 PM
ja cuzzi boys
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:07 PM
It is 2011. Nirvana are reissuing their album, had a covers album, now have Krist Novoselic touring and playing Nevermind in full, and been featured in Guitar Hero.
Pearl Jam, and Sonic Youth are releasing albums at Starbucks and Target. G'NR are going with Best Buy. Kanye West played a Heineken sponsored show. Where do most people buy their music (if they buy it at all)? Apple... How do you play your music? On an Apple Computer or iPod or mobile phone owned by some huge corporation.
The point is... it might suck that these bands are shilling for corporations, but there is no point in bitching about it. Enjoy the music, enjoy the free beer. The industry is half what it was 10 years ago. Something has got to give. This isn't 1991 anymore.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:22 PM
two of the four major record labels are on the verge of collapse. it's only a matter of days. you heard it here first.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 2:46 PM
Haven't any of you idiots ever heard of the American Dream? Make money, support your family.
Fuck anyone who claims these guys are sellouts. I say do whatever it takes to make a living.
I hope the asses claiming sellout live on the street. As far as I see it, any job is selling out, so you've all sold out. Hell, I'm happy to be sitting in my cubicle making a living!
God bless America!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:05 PM
1:25 ftw
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:17 PM
3:05. Agreed. Although there are different levels of selling out.
1) A quirky, indie-ish geek band like TVOTR who basically make the music they want to make, but play a free show sponsored by a brand that they probably use frequently? This is an acceptable form of selling out. More power to them.
2) A crappy band from the 80's whose songs sound almost like commercial jingles (like Bon Jovi for example), adding a slight bit of twang to their sound so that they can be played on Country radio. This is an unacceptable form of selling out.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 3:20 PM
HEINEKEN?!? F THAT SH!T! PABST. BLUE. RIBBON!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 4:35 PM
It's what killed Dennis Hopper.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 4:44 PM
my balls itch from all this bitchin
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 6:21 PM
So, should I buy a heineken or a TVOTR t-shirt? Im confused again. Can one of the enlightened please help me?
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 6:24 PM
^ You should buy a shirt with Heineken on the front and TVOTR in the back. Kind of like a mullet, but a shirt!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 7:17 PM
why is public property being made available to this corporation to throw a very loud event with open alcohol consumption?
the city does not allow this sort of event to be organised by independent groups
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:26 PM
^ Yeah. Death to the Macy's fireworks and Thanksgiving parade!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 9:43 PM
yes, the Macy's fireworks... clearly catering to a Jersey audience at the expense of New York City, yet with the cooperation and logistical support of New York City (and our property taxes).
and the Thanksgiving Day parade. Have you ever gone down and watched that in person? I didn't think so. That shit is for housewives in middle America. It's dull as shit, the opposite of culture.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:23 PM
Exactly, 10:23. It's high time we did away with any and all corporate sponsorship or underwriting in the public sphere. Real culture supported by real people!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 10:42 PM
Uh oh! Puma ads on BV! Get your pitchforks, people who think people don't deserve an income!
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:08 PM
why did heineken get a permit to do something that regular folks would not be allowed to do?
it reminds me of the colbert report wheat pasting that's gone up all over town, on phone booths and privately owned wall space and on city facilities.
meanwhile, LOTS of kids have criminal records for wheat pasting, only they call it "vandalism"
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:08 PM
I demand that Chinese restaurants stop dumping menus in my hallway! Greedy gook bastards.
Posted by Anonymous | August 18, 2011 11:17 PM
I SAW FROHAWK AT FORT TILDEN ON WEDNESDAY
Posted by Anonymous | August 19, 2011 12:27 AM
^ Yeah! And tell that fucking mayor to stop having his nitwits leave posters by my door!
Posted by Anonymous | August 19, 2011 1:00 AM
Well put 11:32 PM and I always knew there was something sort of disingenuous about TVOTR back then when Cory Rusk put them out and that they would do corporate sponsorships in a heartbeat.
With also the mentality then with the Yeah Yeah Yeah's it was whatever it took just to promote themselves as they name dropped old No Wave NY bands.
There are great corporate sponsorships from oil industries, rightwing thinktanks, and the Koch bros. at museums in NYC and PBS who can slant and control whats said about the environment or pollution.
Posted by Anonymous | August 19, 2011 3:36 AM
^ should live in the mountains like the unabomber.
Posted by Anonymous | August 19, 2011 8:07 AM