Who went to Rock Beach?

wow, wrong way to go about enticing people. queue the fade out.

yeah, bad advertising. i've been wondering when these were going to start happening because i wanted to go. didn't know they started already!

these guys are such fucking idiots. case in point that interview

"your like"

"You have got to check out Death Grips." Fast forward 6 months from now and you get a call from your old drunk friend and they are like, "Death Grips" is the shit!" And your like, "No shit, I told you that six months ago. Have fun in loser-ville with the wife/kid combo."

ha, ha sad.

Yo, son...Death Grip is the shit!

Douchebag.

he implies that people don't know about the bands - what if people do actually know about them but know that they all suck? congrats on liking death grips you moron

Wow, Chris Goldstein is jaded.

there are so many things to do in NYC in the summer time and so few weekends. so it matters how you spend them. i don't want to take a chance on some far away venue with unheard of bands. thanks

Rock Beach? What again?

Wow, really happy I don't support in any way, this shitty organization. Pompous, arrogant, elitist, total turn off.

Sorry dude, but the way to book an event is to have a band people know, a band people sorta know and a band most people don't know. You draw people for the known and convert them (hopefully) on the unknown. It's not rocket science.

jelly needs some PR help, unprofessional

its not that we don't know about the bands, its that the bands suck. just like the people who put on the show. as well as the hour long subway ride to get there. fuck off

Wow, it appears Chris Goldstein is not only a bumbling idiot with bad taste, but a class-A douche bag. Fuck off, dude! Your parties suck.

What a fucking whinging baby this guy is, to say nothing of being a living breathing caricature.

That was such an embarrassing statement by Jelly. Holy shit.

Apparently Jelly and OSA needed each other, because apart they both suck.

(well, OSA got what they wanted - tons of for-profit concerts, few free concerts (none good), lots of kickbacks to them.)

I think Chris is definitley the angry 'anonymous' guy on Brooklynvegan.

If he would of thrown in a 'hummus' comment in that paragraphy it would of been too easy.

I was in the neighborhood on July 24, so I decided to stop by to take a look. I arrived when doors open at 2pm and there was no one there. Granted, the weather that day was terrible for an outdoor concert.

The venue itself is not a problem. Layout was cramped compared to the original pool parties, but decent. The problem is the bands: weak weak weak. Perhaps these bands are good, but I need some name recognition if I am going to take one of my two days off to see the show.

Does Loser-ville include Manhattan?

That "Po-dunk Iowa" quote is the saddest, most juvenile thing I've ever read on BrooklynVegan, and I read the comments here. Someone needs to grow the fuck up and point some fingers at himself.

What is jelly?

I should add that the bar setup at Rock Beach is pretty decent.

wow. wife kid < DEATH GRIPS

People will travel far for bands, and people will go see bands they haven't seen or are unfamiliar with, but people rarely do both at the same time. I'll go see Death Grips when they are playing around the corner from my house.

That's exactly why we live in New York and not "Po-Dunk, Iowa." All of those bands on their flyer play in Williamsburg/Bushwick/etc. on a regular basis. (And I still can't figure out exactly which bands played this one.)

And judging from the comments here, it seems like the city is suffering some serious Free Summer Concert Fatigue. Sorry, dude, but this one seems like asking too much. Maybe a one or two day festival with camping would have been a better idea.

hahaha weren't people supporting last year when they got into a fight with OSA?

Anyway, I think it's pathetic that Jelly wants us to take 2hr bus ride to see bands that you can at smaller venues anyway.

Jelly shows in the past were fun and great but with no sponsorship, I guess they ran out of $$$ or Jelly's parents didn't want to help out their hipster kids this summer!

Jelly really failed. They need to fix their shit. Thank god we have the House Of Vans

Hous Of Vans>>>>>>>Jelly pool parties(besides the cap'n jazz one)

Amazing response, it's like someone injected him with truth serum. This is pretty much what everyone thinks (particularly re: the PS1 comment) but no one ever says on the record.

That said, promotion and logistics for this are ridiculous--it's a hassle to get to the venue and they seem incapable of promoting anything beyond the catchy name.

And in response to the question "Does Loser-ville include Manhattan?", the answer is an emphatic "yes."

how old is chris goldstein, 22? what a fucking ignorant tool. his comments reek of the pathetic, holier-than-thou attitudes of many of the scenesters occupying vast expanses of the north side of brooklyn these days. ucch. FAIL!

"Have fun in loser-ville with the wife/kid combo"

Hey, we couldn't all go to Flagler College

The Brooklyn Paper takes a blogger's attitude to reporting the facts, it should be said. But yeah's nobody's going to this it seems.

And agreed about the website, it's like they don't want you to go.

is this Chris Goldstein fella the trust fund kid who's folks gave him $500,000 to blow on the Williamsburg Waterfront shows? It's a bummer when you run through all the cash isn't it? No further lines of credit from the folks huh Chrisso? No money and no friends = shit bands, no publicist and our boy in the emperor's new clothes. Class

Still hoping for a lineup that includes So So Glos, especially since I have to miss this week's show.

yeah, from a reliable source. Chris is a spoiled rich kid; who I'm sure has a trustfund, or at least a mom and dad who make sure Chrissy is happy.

"feel we deserve some respect for our booking history"

hahaha...respect for what!?! Booking shitty bands in 2011?

What a douche.

@ anon 9:55

"Amazing response, it's like someone injected him with truth serum. This is pretty much what everyone thinks (particularly re: the PS1 comment) but no one ever says on the record."

Actually, no - it isn't. Speak for yourself, fuckwad.

"And in response to the question "Does Loser-ville include Manhattan?", the answer is an emphatic 'yes.'"

Can't afford to live in the big city, eh? lol

"Does Loser-ville include Manhattan?"

Only on occasion by the LES, when the trendy hipsters visit there.

10:05 I would assume that with the presence of TopMan as sponsor and low-guarantee bands, this series is at least breaking even for Chris, if not earning him a profit.

I mean, not to stand in the way of your whining.

someone call Chuck Schumer to save Chris from being an asshole!

this is hilarious

but why the hate for trust fund kids? not all trust fund kids are insufferable douchebags... i would just imagine that if you are an insufferable douchebag, having a trust fund enables you to really rock that insufferable douchery... so these trust fund insufferable douchebags are actually just the highest form of insufferable douchebag, as they really get to explore their art... they are approaching insufferable douchebag perfection! seems like these sort of people should be lauded on this site

I'm very happy in Loserville and I love my wife and kid.

You book a show that no one goes to & your response is ranting against families, Iowa, Europeans & people who like to go out on the weekend? This is he same douche who bragged about interviewing Ryan seacrest. What an insecure self-defeating bully.

Wife/kid combo is great though, seen them live a few times.

lick me, all of you!

Such a disaster. I would have loved to have seen Death Grips, and I'm not even that opposed to travelling for a limited payoff (JEFF the Brotherhood at Rockaway, for example). But the fact that it's insanely far away, and you have to rely on an incompetent organization for transportation is a dealbreaker.

THESE PEOPLE FUCK UP EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH. I'M NOT JUST HANDING THEM $20, AND ASSUMING THAT I'LL GET THERE, AND BACK, WITHOUT A COLOSSAL DISASTER ALONG THE WAY.

Eat a bowl of fuck Chris Goldstein.

They are planning to hold shows in front of the abandoned train station in Detroit (ruin porn, great for photos) by claiming they will revitalize the area...

http://www.jellynyc.com/client/detroit/local/3/

"JELLY IS A WILLIAMSBURG BROOKLYN BASED CREATIVE LAB. OUR SUMMER 2006 MISSION WAS A SIMPLE ONE; INVIGORATE WHAT WAS ONCE ONE OF THE MOST CELEBRATED AND THRIVING AREAS IN NYC BY COMMUNICATING ON A NATIONAL AND GLOBAL SCALE WITH THE MOST INFLUENTIAL CONSUMERS ON THE PLANET. POOL PARTIES WAS OUR VOICE BOX.

**Just weeks after the first summer of Pool Parties came to a close there were rumblings of new condominiums, bars, and restaurants coming to the area. Pool Parties had made some noise. A lot of the 'right' people were talking, a lot of the 'right' people started to listen, and sometimes that's all you need."

"THE MOST INFLUENTIAL CONSUMERS ON THE PLANET"

stick a fucking fork in your "culture"

Wow! This isn't the case of the mighty have fallen, it's that finally Karma has caught up to what is left of Jelly.

Respect your booking history? WTF? Given the money they had and the sponsors they had, ANYONE in this city could have booked the waterfront shows and probably had more success than Jelly, simply by not being self-righteous assholes.

Deep pockets, yes -- Brilliant, not so much. The grift is off.

guy comes off as a defensive dick. but one thing: 150 people attending a show at a distant location is a failure?

I can't believe there was ever a time where I found this scene cool, and hip, and something to be a part of. I'm glad I grew out of it.

when i grow up i want to be a washed-up promoter

wtf? what a condescending prick! I guess I won't be bringing my wife and kids (or my bands) to this dude's shows anymore. Now I'm sorry I ever did.

haha some dude in Iowa is holding the hand of his teary-eyed wife, both proudly watching their only son run the bases at his little league game.

and somewhere in the back of his mind he's like... "i could have seen Death Grips"

lol, what a loser....

What is killing me this summer is the lineups that make no fucking sense whatsoever. The same people that would be into Death Grips probably aren't going to dig Miracles Club or Bass Drum of Death.

Here Jelly, I'm offering my advice for free:

1) Stack a lineup with bands people want to see and that makes sense thematically. You managed to do this when the shows were at McCarren or the waterfront... not sure what happened guys.

2) Don't charge $20 for a shuttle bus to get out there when it can be reached by public transit for $2.25. If you insist on the party bus, I insist on beer and tequila for all.

3) Advertise. You know those "weekend warriors" you speak of? Yeah those are people with jobs that can actually afford to come to your event, if they had a chance to hear about it.

make the bus free, problem solved

How does booking a few shows each year lend anything to the title of a "Creative Lab" as they claim to be? Oh you made the fliers too. These insufferable cunts need to fuck off. Humorously, they consider themselves to be this hipper-than-thou bunch that people yearn to hang with. How are those lines prick? Get bent.

What a little bitch.

glad we can all agree that chris goldstein and the rest of the jelly staff can go fuck themselves! karma's a real bitch.

Lesson 1: Blame everyone but yourself for creating a failure

12:07 wins

yeah some guy is having a quiet night with his beautiful wife and four year-old son watching E.T. together for the first time.

his son cries when E.T. comes back to life, but his father is crying on the inside that he isn't watching Death Grips.

Jelly exists for two reasons:

1) To attract sponsorship money. The Rock Beach shows got around $60k in financing from Top Man. Most of that cash goes to Jelly's pocket, and isn't spent running the events. That's why the lineups are weak: they don't want to pay for people you've heard of. They want to pay little bands pennies and keep as much as possible. It's also why the busses aren't free. Jelly is moneygrubbing and cheap!

2) to get the staff laid

I bet the turnout goes up, not down, following this round of bad press. People are curious.

Is this really what death grips sounds like??
http://www.thefader.com/2011/04/28/video-death-grips-guillotine-it-goes-yah/

zach hill is the drummer/producer of death grips - they've got a few great tracks for sure.

but the silent barn people are totally honest victims

wife/kid combo? eat a dick kid. sorry nobody came to your party. boo

I'm grateful for that guy only because he evoked some of the best comments I've read here in a while. I think I haven't laughed out loud since the LCD threads.

Yup, that prickish attitude (shared by many in the area, btw) finally got real old for me. It was great seeing good bands in good venues, but even that had pretty much stopped a while back (personally, last usaisamonster show was the breaking point). So I ... gasp ... moved the fuck on out of there. I'm telling you all, Brooklyn is fucked for a while, best just go somewhere else while the dust settles. Let Jelly, et al, completely die off so something great can happen once again. And despite what all these whiney, useless, holier than thou momma's boys will tell you, there is great shit happening all over the country. As far as I can tell, the same people that are touting Brooklyn as the be-all end-all are the same people that have and are wrecking it in the worst way possible. Just my two cents, but little chris' rant really plucked a nerve, I hope this is the last thing anyone ever hears from him.

Death Grips was special.

1:37:

Brooklyn is fine. From Seagate to Cypress Hills, from Marine Park to Greenpoint. All fine.

it's the PEOPLE who are fucked.

To paraphrase Carlin.

there are too many free concerts

"Brooklyn is fine. From Seagate to Cypress Hills, from Marine Park to Greenpoint. All fine...it's the PEOPLE who are fucked."

quoted for truth

I see the knuckledraggers all came out to play today.

Amazing how painfully uncool bkvegan comments always are.

YES they really need to PROMOTE these shows.. I wouldve gone had I known. I keep getting flustered when I find out aftewr the fact about these shows

Chris Goldstein somehow steals "most hated" status from LeBron James with this whiny string of finger pointing.

2:34 is chris goldstein, apparently

Once again the forces of LAMESTREAM Brooklyn blogosphere have conspired to try and attack discredit Jelly. Won't work this time Bro. No way, no how.

We are a fully functioning creative lab who attract THE MOST CREATIVE CUSTOMERS IN THE WORLD. If that's too much for you mouth-breathing norms to handle, it's not our fault. Go back to Bumfuck, Indiana with your dog and minivan and mortgage and watch Seinfeld re-runs on your DVR. This isn't meant for you.

lol

death grips sounds like a hybridization of company flow, biohazard, ol' dirty bastard, house of pain and bassnectar.

i hate to break it to you, but they are not the next big thing. i know this from a very reliable source, too. just sayin.

Jelly's lack of organization is exactly the reason I don't venture to these shows and I live fifteen minutes away. Not gonna lie, I rather trek all the way to the House of Vans.

1:12 you nailed it.
Funny to read the complaints of all the people who are exactly the kind of people that aren't wanted here. No, you will never be cool or fun and you will always resent the scenesters for that. Yes, please, stay home. Or go enjoy an expensive meal or something...just get lost. Ick.

rock beach is neither cool nor fun... it's a failure

failures are bummers, brah

the aviator sports complex is super duper lame. it's a hang out for fat people from Breezy Point.

who thought this would be cool? a fucking moron

The hummus ain't bad in po-dunk Iowa.

The is the classic brooklynvegan MO.
Wait until someone in the local music industry says or does something stupid and then hold them up for ridicule.
Chris Goldstein is indeed a bit of a douchebag but he's nowhere near as bad as this site's host.

Brilliant satire 3:02! Really nailed jelly's elitist tone. I love when people say 'norms' to make themselves feel better about being under/unemployed & jealous of others success. You will grow up & laugh at yourself!

3:44–People did stay home. If they don't want people to attend what is the point of putting on shows?

EXACTLY

so they only want certain types of people at their shows, eh? what time is that, lemmings? fucking loser.

EXACTLY (to 4:11)

jelly killed the brooklyn rock scene dead by poisoning the well with sponsorship money.

sponsorship shows elevated a small random cabal of then buzzy bands to permanent headliner status, and created a glass ceiling below them that new bands can't break through.

after jelly attracted a ton of sponsorship cash doing free shows with the buzz bands or three years ago, bowery presents got into the act at brooklyn bowl and elsewhere and siphoned off all the sponsor cash, and garbage like the southstreet seaport series got newfound attention. today we're in phase 3, where the house of vans and other shameless crap dominates.

nowadays there is a huge divide between bands that weren't popular before 3 years ago and those lucky bands who made the cut and were at the right place at the right time.

smaller bands can't get a shake because every sponsorship lackey just wants a sure thing on their bill. the little bands need to play with the big dogs to get seen, but sponsor shows don't put those kind of bills together. the little bands have nowhere to go, no incentive to try.

what's ironic is that now jelly has fucked up their reputation so badly that they can only attract enough sponsor money to hire baby bands who will play for next to nothing.

if their new venue wasn't in the least accessible location imaginable, or maybe if they didn't stupidly charge $20 a seat on the buses, then maybe they could make an impact on these little new bands' careers.

but instead they're just dicking around with sponsor money and not doing anything that doesn't serve anyone, not even themselves. they look ridiculous.

"is this Chris Goldstein fella the trust fund kid who's folks gave him $500,000 to blow on the Williamsburg Waterfront shows? It's a bummer when you run through all the cash isn't it? No further lines of credit from the folks huh Chrisso? No money and no friends = shit bands, no publicist and our boy in the emperor's new clothes. Class"

no, that's alex chris is his assistant

The first pool party shows were simply a good idea. Throw a rock show in an famously abandoned pool, easily acceptable by most anyone in nyc. Kudos to those who pulled it off.

Beyond that these people (jelly) seem to exemplify every negative williamsburg cliche.

no,just everybody except for you 4;20. youre probably used to hearing that.

That's not even the half of it 4:29.

The bigger problem is that the headliner-level bands aren't available to play on bills that aren't sponsorship shows.

They block out months of their calendars for the shows where they'll get overpaid, and meanwhile every other show in town can't find a headliner. Other shows lack anchors, can't draw an audience, and the little bands never get exposure. The scene slowly atrophies.

finally, intelligent conversation.
so, how to fix?

the mcarren park pool venue was the brainchild of sam kinken from livenation.

jelly's free show series was created to make the for profit live nation use of the public park look less like a giveaway of public property to a corporate interest.

you can blame Vice magazine for the sponsorship problem

you can also blame Vice for chris goldstein's charming personality, he is one of thousands of copycat assholes that magazine indoctrinated

thanks gavin!

This is the symbolic final fork in the ole Williamsburg "culture."

The act isn't cute anymore.

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lots of people around here got beat up or made fun of in high school, it seems

sigh, back to dumb.

how about you write something smart 5:25, rather than just bitch and complain.

respond to the intelligent posts you cited, for instance

jelly birthed yma sumac

http://rockbeach.us is down, doesn't work.

They also took down their Detroit pitch site. Meanwhile supposedly their Detroit series begins this weekend, and there has been ZERO promo/listings whatsoever. The only news about it is local bands asking "who the heck is Jelly?" when they get invited to play.

I think we may have accomplished something today...

we killed JellyNYC

whoa, Jelly is closing!

We Don't Use Jelly

Learn to spell.

It's Podunk, Iowa

Podunk is not a proper noun.

this dick is typical ,of the people in Brooklyn today. nobody is really from Brooklyn.I went to school and worked here my whole life and am tired of DICK hipsters like this. If he was born and raisewd in Brooklyn he would have gotten his ass kicked everyday with that attitude. The music sucked at both shows and the only cool thing was the pools and slide. His arrogance is really amusing... he is just another typical rich little punk that needs to shower and wake up to reality not his reality

rumor mill:

goldstein has been fired.

jelly has canceled their scheduled series in detroit and floyd bennett field.

10:25 lol and yet you capitalize lol you are not ironic although you think you are

oh and by the way, you're also wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podunk

unironic, unfunny and incorrect is no way to go through life son

Oh hey their rock beach site has been replaced... shows moving to The Morgan in East Williamsburg... no mention of Top Man... "really cool graphic design"

http://www.rockbeach.us/

All of you shut the fuck up. Go see all the corny ass headlining bands at some faggy festival. You fucking hipster punk ass bitches. Cry me a damn river. What do any of you do? Could you even book a fuckin show at spike hill if you tried? Didn't think so. Do what you do best. Ruin neighborhoods and suck some dicks.

8/2/11...never forget

I think about Death Grips almost every day :(