Posted in music on January 31, 2012

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Bruce Springsteen

"This couldn't have happened to a more high-profile artist, at a worse time, or in a worse place. And now, New Jersey Congressman Bill Pascrell is promising action and the reintroduction of the BOSS Act, which calls for secondary market oversight and restrictions on companies like Ticketmaster.

The meltdown started Friday, when fans attempting to purchase tickets to Bruce Springsteen's upcoming 'Wrecking Ball' tour on Ticketmaster were frozen out - except, marked-up tickets were readily available on StubHub and other markup sites (and maybe even Ticketmaster's own secondary marketplace, TicketsNow.)" [Digital Music News (via)]

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Comments (73)

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Posted by Ted | January 31, 2012 9:46 AM

TM to public: bring on yer wreckin' ball

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:47 AM

this is news? when artists want to make their ticketing fair, they will.. til then they'll keep ripping off their fans

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:49 AM

Paperless tickets

Posted by Edward haye | January 31, 2012 9:51 AM

Paperless tickets means the seller has to stand next to the people he ripped off.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:53 AM

remember the last tour when Bruce sued Ticketmaster... but then it came out that his manager was funnelling fix to the scalpers? Uh, yeah. HeroOfTheWorkingMan

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:53 AM

I'd like to hear from Lana Del Ray regarding her thoughts on the matter.

Posted by The Pope | January 31, 2012 9:54 AM

Lana Del Rey is almost as foxy as Nicole Kidman. I can't wait for them to both star int he next Stepford Wives remake!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:56 AM

i'm guessing that nothing will come of this.

on another note, love how it's called the BOSS act. you can't write that stuff.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:56 AM

paperless, 2 ticket max, problem solved.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 9:59 AM

^No 1 ticket limit credit card holder must attend would stop it. Also would be an interesting way for people to be more social! Heh

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:03 AM

I wonder if Chris Christie was able to get tickets.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:04 AM

all the good lowers for all the shows were paperless except for msg because u cant do paperless in nyc i got tickets for every show dont know what all these peeps are bitching about

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:04 AM

the only people who call them "lowers" are the scalpers

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:06 AM

i prefer ticket broker "scalper" is not very professional

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:07 AM

I think TM is hiding their incompetence by claiming that it's the scalpers' fault (re: using bots/hacks) to buy up tix.
The reality is that they probably just couldn't handle the volume. In addition to Bruce tix going on sale, there was a Roger Waters presale, Flo $ the Machine, Pulp, and Red Hot Chili Peppers pre-sale all at the same time.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:07 AM

Who the hell was buying Red Hot Chili Peppers tickets?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:09 AM

10:09, Someone must have. It sold out and they added a second show...

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:10 AM

all the bot software had the same 15 minute waiting problem we all did it was an overflow on their server they couldn't handle all that traffic

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:11 AM

As in everything in life...there are winners and losers. There was more demand than supply by multiples even without us scalpers. The losers will always bitch and moan. The winners will always laugh to the show or the bank.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:13 AM

I'd be curious to see the details of the BOSS act. NY State did the opposite; Spitzer removed restrictions for reselling a few years ago, and Cuomo made paperless tickets illegal. Morons.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:13 AM

here comes the waaaaaaaaahhhhhmulance

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:15 AM

Paperless is illegal in NY because it allows Ticketmaster to control the scalping market and the primary market. The paperless would still be scalped, but TM would get all the fees because only TM could do the transfer.

Secondly, paperless is illegal because you cannot transfer if you cannot use them last minute, or want to give them away as a gift. The customer gets fucked. The law is to protect the public. Dig?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:17 AM

Fuck paperless tickets! I love being able to go to any show due to there being a market priced secondary market.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:19 AM

But will he play "Queen of the Supermarket"?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:19 AM

^lulz...that is by far one of the worst of his last 5 albums.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:21 AM

Whatever technology they come up with must include a way to allow people to give/sell their tickets in the event they can't make it. It is the major problem with Will Call only or paperless tickets. There have been a few times when I had tickets I had to take a loss on because I was sick and couldnt go to the venue with my credit card to have my brother in law or a friend take them. There was no scalping here. It was just life and things that happen and ticketmaster should include the possibility of things happening if they are to move to a paperless or buyer only system, which it seems they are moving to.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:22 AM

10:19 - I agree. I actually like the fact that there's a secondary market. I just wish there were a fair way to get first crack at the prime seats. Now, most of those seats get funneled to brokers from the inside, and the general public never sees them thru TM.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:23 AM

More whining Baby Boomers. Haven't you seen Bruce play the same shit enough times????

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:24 AM

Come on upppp for the scaaaalping tonight

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:24 AM

I agree with 10:19. A secondary market would be very healthy for consumers if ticketmaster takes care of where of the problem really is, the initial distribution of tickets. If all tickents went onsale to the public at once and were not siphoned off to the ticket agencies as is obviously done, then there would be many tickets available to those who lose out initially and, in many casesm, would be at face or below face.

Posted by Loop | January 31, 2012 10:26 AM

I'm sure Bruce Springsteen is totally powerless about the fact that tickets to his shows start at $90.

I love the guy's music, but he can stay in Malibu with that kind of shit.

Posted by Jersey Boy | January 31, 2012 10:26 AM

$90 is still less than the Eagles charges in 1994 for their hell freezes over tour!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:28 AM

PLEASE find a way other than Ticketmaster to sell tickets to your shows!!!!!!!

Posted by Donna Boss | January 31, 2012 10:30 AM

This whole thing is just greed. And the more this happens the more obvious it is.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:32 AM

Life man, it'll get ya!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:34 AM

that's because Don Henley is an even bigger asshole...

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:37 AM

Fact is, at least for the NY/NJ market, the tickets are actually underpriced.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:37 AM

Isn't it the case when people say that no tickets were available even though they were at the show's ticketmaster page "right when they were on sale," they were actually locked out for refreshing too much?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 10:45 AM

Bruce tickets may start at $90, but they're capped off at $120. Not many veteran acts of his stature can say that their top price to an arena show is just a little over $100. (In fact, the top price for Bruce tickets usually ARE $100. So this is slightly high by Bruce standards, but still a hell of a good price.)

Posted by Matt | January 31, 2012 10:54 AM

If Bruce really cared about his fans, he would do something about this. He's got the means, and the clout, to set up an alternative system for venue / ticketing. Just sloughing it off on "the powers that be" smacks of typical empty Liberal cronyism to me.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:01 AM

The things about Tm for a show like this at $15 a pop in SC they get $300k...not too shabby!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:03 AM

same thing happened with LCD Soundsystem.

Posted by lotrIItsfmr | January 31, 2012 11:03 AM

I pulled two floor tickets to MSG at Noon with no problem. You just gotta have a little luck and a lotta love for the BOSS. Later, suckers!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:03 AM

10:10, ticketmaster forgot to mention the 2nd show

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:23 AM

Because the secondary market may work in our favor, the NY state law against paperless protects the fans. And Bruce is about cronyism. Obviously.

Welcome to the Idiocracy.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:26 AM

^ asshole

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:37 AM

11:03, LCD was actually a different situation. The issue there was that between the venue, the artist's management, the agent that represents them, and Bowery, they held back way too many seats from the general public for the MSG show. Embarrassed by the PR disaster of a 1 minute sellout, Murphy blamed scalpers.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:49 AM

To add to 11:49, the Bruce situation was that people were stuck in an endless queue, because of the super-high volume.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:52 AM

10:46

I feel the same about the Yankees. StubHub is a GREAT site that allows me to see at minimum 5 home games per month for under 50 dollars, and NO the Grandstand seating is NOT NOT NOT as bad as overreactors will have you think. Five fucking home games, at Yankee Stadium. Yes please.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 11:57 AM

10:46 & 11:57 - I couldn't agree more. Between brokers, and average people who attempt to make an extra buck trying their hand at speculating, they end up overbuying tickets. The end result, I buy my ticket at the last minute and pay $20 for a show with a face value of $50 or more. Viva le scalping!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:00 PM

^Even better sell early at a profit then buy back tickets under face...

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:05 PM

12:05 - Hehe, I've done that a few times. Faith No More in Williamsburg was great for that 2 years ago.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:07 PM

People need to stop supporting scalping. Supply and demand. Simply do not purchase from scalpers.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:13 PM

Of course that doesn't always work (re: 12:00). More often than not it does work, especially for stadium concerts and for baseball games (particularly the Mets, because they've been sucking lately). But occasionally the demand is so high (i.e. Jay Z/Eminem at Yankee Stadium), where there's just not enough tickets out there to satisfy the demand.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:17 PM

the simple answer is to get a centurion (or even a platinum card will probably do) and you'll get pretty much every ticket you want. period. if you use it often enough and resell enough of your tickets, you'll probably break even. simple. no complaining involved.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:17 PM

12:17, there is a level of risk involved with that, though. The overhead is high for the VIP seats for most shows (let's say you're paying 350 a ticket for example). You could end up losing your shirt if the public does not want to pay that much.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:21 PM

The boss is gonna get pissed about this.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 12:36 PM

So upsetting. This is the first time I haven't been able to get tickets.

Posted by Rebecca Roth | January 31, 2012 12:48 PM

Same thing for chili peppers tickets, immediate black out and thousands on stub hub and tickets now only 2 mins after sale. These crooks already have them before the sale and then post every listing in advance and right at 10 am, list them all at once..


think this is bad, just wait until the Rolling Stones 50th anniversary tour.
IMPOSSIBLE.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 1:03 PM

If the venues had any decency, they'd sell tickets themselves and put the middlemen out of business. The internet is, in most spheres of activity, deflationary. For concert ticket sales, it has just made matters worse.

Boycott the middlemen and boycott stubhub.

Posted by Grax | January 31, 2012 1:18 PM

^ I can only imagine what it would be like if every venue had their own ticket system...ever try and buy tickets for Count Basie in Red Bank! What a CF!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 1:19 PM

LIBERAL CRONYISM!!!

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 2:11 PM

1:18, there is no incentive for anyone to get rid of Ticketmasters. The artist and his/her agent, the venue, and the promoter typically all get a cut of the ridiculous service fees (which is why it is now typical to pay 15-20 extra per ticket now).

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 2:29 PM

I think this whole thing is hilarious.
He's only doing 5 shows in arenas in the area (this time around). People are delusional if they thought there wasn't a possibility that they'd be shut out.
Put into perspective, Bruce has done 10 shows in a row at Giants Stadium in 2003, sold all of them out.
The supply is much smaller than the demand.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 3:59 PM

BTW, Bruce always does that.. he does an underplay, playing just a few arenas, and then he comes back a few months later and plays a bunch of stadium dates.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 4:02 PM

But here's what I don't get... if the good sections were sold as "paperless" at the IZOD show, how are these sections available on Stubhub?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 4:15 PM

These artists get more on the back end under the table from the secondary market. It would be foolish to think otherwise. To clarify though, I don't think every top act is in on the scam. I mean, consider someone like lady gaga. She can hire the BEST lawyer in the country to combat this, but why waste time when she potentially gets a large cut.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 4:49 PM

4:49 - That is true. Most arena-sized artists scalp their own tickets. The rationale is "if people are willing to pay that much to see me, why shouldn't I get a cut"?

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2012 5:06 PM

let's face it, springsteen has sucked since 1976.

Posted by Anonymous | February 1, 2012 11:33 PM

Darkness On The Edge Of Town wasn't bad.Pretty much everything after that was self-indulgent garbage or pop vomit though.

Posted by Anonymous | February 2, 2012 12:27 AM

ull like it.. if u hate ticketmaster :D The Walking Dead - Ticketmaster Apocalypse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCmqo9BAgE

Posted by The Fanarchist | June 14, 2013 5:13 AM

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