Posted in music on May 19, 2012

Geezer

I feel sad to see the Sabbath reunion becoming a bit of a soap opera on the internet. It has been a very tough year for us as a band, having announced our reunion plans, only for Tony to be diagnosed with lymphoma, leaving us no choice but to postpone the proposed Sabbath tour, and then for Bill to go public on his site about an un-signable contract. None of us knew how Tony was going to respond to his intensive chemo therapy, and radiotherapy. Ozzy and myself flew to England to be with Tony, and on his "good" days, we'd meet at his home studio and put ideas together for the upcoming album, all sitting down together, no drummer involved, just 3 of us quietly putting together ideas. We thought that when we had enough songs together for a full band rehearsal, we'd move back to L.A and put the whole thing together with Bill. Unfortunately, to our surprise, Bill issued a statement on his site saying he'd been offered an un-signable contract. He hadn't told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public. We had the idea of keeping just one show in this year, hoping that Tony would be well enough for that show, and that things with Bill would be sorted. As you may expect, a one off show at Donnington Festival (Download) costs an absolute fortune to stage, involving over 50 people, transport, air fares, hotels, meals, agents, promotors, accountants, lawyers etc, so none of us, expected to make much money from it- it was a one off Sabbath show for the fans, before we go into recording the new album. Apparently, this wasn't acceptable to Bill's representatives, they wanted an amount that was so unrealistic that it seemed to have been a joke. So we resigned ourselves to doing Download without Bill, hoping he'd change his mind and at least make a guest appearance. We started rehearsals a few weeks ago with Tommy Cluefetos, the drummer who will be on the Ozzy and Friends Tour. Brilliant drummer and good bloke. It was decided we'd better do a warm up show, to break the ice since we haven't played together live. The O2 Academy was available in Birmingham, where we were rehearsing, so we decided on that, and to make a donation to Help For Heroes Charity, since we'd be ironing out any glitches we may have. Then Bill put out a further statement saying he'd been ready to play the Birmingham show , but he was expected to have to do it "for free"- well, I think that's basically how you raise money from gigs for charity - you play them "for free".

All I am saying [again] is that there are two sides to everything. I do hope to play with Bill again some day. For whatever reason; it wasn't meant to be this time. Bill's made his decision, and I have to respect that. Hopefully this painful year will be worth the wait for the new Sabbath album and end in joy and happiness for all.
Stay frosty,
Geezer

Whatever the story, it still seems questionable that they cropped Bill out of old pictures! Most importantly though, I hope Tony is healing quickly and feeling good.

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Comments (78)

Stay frosty,
Geezer

AWESOME

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 12:49 PM

good to know. now I can sleep at night.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 12:58 PM

And now comes Bill's next statement to attack this one and the soap opera continues.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 12:59 PM

"so none of us, expected to make much money from it"

^ This has got to be the biggest lie of all this entire stupid episode.

This will never end. Thanks SHARON.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:01 PM

Sharon Osbourne

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:03 PM

Just like I said in my other post: it's like listening to a pack of neurotic old ladies carry on.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:04 PM

Yes and for those that think Sharon the cunt does not have her hands in this, pretty telling that the drummer is the one from Ozzy's band.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:10 PM

Ward is a douche bag! the important thing Sabbath fans should be concerned with is Tony's health. To make some bullshit drama that's vague without any proof whatsoever is pathetic.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:11 PM

BILL WARD IS GREEDY SCUM.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:13 PM

Finally! Geezer tells THE TRUTH.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:16 PM

It will be worth the wait. Sabbath made great albums without Ward!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:18 PM

LCD was special

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:19 PM

Ward you greedy cunt!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:21 PM

"Finally! Geezer tells THE TRUTH."

Congrats, you are officially the dumbest person on the internet today. Yeah some truth.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:22 PM

Bill Ward should be with them for Tony. His statements were thin and held no real position, only hinting he wasn't being paid enough money. Sounds like a typical british dickhead rockstar.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:23 PM

Geezer always had class.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:26 PM

Nothing questionable about cropping a drummer who's not participating in the band, and has not been on many Sabbath albums.

Posted by MIkey | May 19, 2012 1:30 PM

Ward deserves to be cropped for putting his greed before Tony's health. Shame on him.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:32 PM

Mikey you can feel free to join some of the others above in the hall of stupidity.

Of course it is questionable. It is slimey as well. Bill is as important to the Sabbath legacy as any of the other 3. If you don't understand that well then you are not a fan of this band

They also apparently removed all mentions of Dio, Tony Martin etc from the discography on the new site layout.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:34 PM

Someone in this lousy band gives a believable explanation! Ward's letters seemed unclear and passive aggressively mean spirited.

Fuck you Ward!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:34 PM

Geezer is a man of real class

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:37 PM

I bet it was that cunt sharon who cropped the images out. fuck you sharon osbourne, fuck you, stupid bitch, you'll get what's coming to you really soon

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:38 PM

Millionaire English rock stars. LOL.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:39 PM

1:34 nailed it.

I felt there was something missing from Ward's statements. If you are going to cause a public spectacle of drama, give facts or accusations. They were definitely passive aggressive statements, hardly believable that the other 3 members did not offer him an appropriate deal for this reunion.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:40 PM

Tommy Cluefetos = scab

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 1:50 PM

first it was yoko, now it's sharon... strong women scare ya?

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 2:31 PM

^ No, just stupid women in positions of authority.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:18 PM

I always thought Geezer was the classiest bloke of them all

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:34 PM

I love Geezer Butler

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:44 PM

2:31 to 3:18 Pussy fight!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:45 PM

I will buy anything Tony Iommi puts his ideas into.

but this is some a sad BLACK mark on Black Sabbath's legacy.

DIO rules all!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:45 PM

Tommy Cluefetos rules! This is going to be great!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:46 PM

I agree with 3:45. Bill Ward is a disgrace. He only added shame to the band's legacy. They've been great without Ward. So that greedy old cunt can suck it!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:48 PM

Mob Rules RULED!!!!!!!

Posted by 3:45 | May 19, 2012 3:48 PM

Ward wasn't even on Mob Rules.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:49 PM

Out of all this drama, Geezer's statement is believable. He is honest. I'm convinced Bill Ward must have financial troubles and succumbed to greed. Bah bye Bill, you won't be missed :-)

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:51 PM

The important thing is that Tony is OK. Bill Ward's little bullshit story is an insult to anyone that has suffered cancer. To stir up a war with Tony while the band is just trying to make music and be there for Tony is disgraceful.

Posted by Shep | May 19, 2012 3:53 PM

I HOPE THEY PLAY TERMINAL 5

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 3:58 PM

I'm a Bill Ward fan. I have to say, he has always been a conceited musician who thinks he's above the other members of Black Sabbath, including Dio. He has always spoke in a condescending way about the others. I'm glad he got replaced. Tommy will kill it in Sabbath!

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 4:02 PM

Ward should get paid more than Geezer and Iommi. He is a better musician, just like Neil Peart should make more than Lifeson and Geddy, and Phil Rudd should make more than Angus and Brian Johnson. Yup

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 4:08 PM

I love Geezer! He's always been my favorite and the most humble of the band.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 4:20 PM

stupid?
"Only Yoko," he said admiringly, "could sell a cow for $250,000." John Lennon

and Sharon pulled Ozzy back from the brink of disaster and jump started his career after Sabbath dumped him..

know your history...

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 4:51 PM

Lennon also purchased an artesian hummus platter from lebanon for $250,000...

Know your history.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 5:27 PM

Fuck Bill Ward.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 5:29 PM

Bill Who?

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 5:30 PM

BILL WARD FUGGING SUCKS

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 5:40 PM

I feel this better sums up this oh so sad situation. Oh Sabbath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvFTL6qOvfg

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 6:54 PM

Who's Black Sabbath? Are these guys any good?

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 7:17 PM

I believe Geezer, but I still think vegans are fags

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 7:27 PM

Maybe Bill can't hack it behind the kit anymore and this is his way of bowing out? Obviously none of em are spring chickens.

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 8:17 PM

"At the request of Bill Ward, through his attorney, so as to not give the public the wrong impression about his involvement in the current Black Sabbath lineup, we have temporarily removed Bill Ward's images from the main pages of the blacksabbath.com official website. In accordance with Bill Ward's attorney's request, we are doing so for the duration of the forthcoming shows." BLACK SABBATH

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 8:34 PM

Nasa's Chandra X-ray Observatory detected the extraordinary outburst. Data from Chandra in the image is shown in pink, Hubble data in blue and yellow The nebula is one of the largest star-forming regions in our cosmic backyard

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 9:49 PM

So are the guys getting the band back together??

Posted by Anonymous | May 19, 2012 10:24 PM

Well written

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 2:06 AM

I love Geezers bass playing. He is really groovy.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 2:16 AM

If bandmembers have trouble communicating without lawyers, and still can't communicate properly WITH them, it's time to just stop trying.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 9:08 AM

FUCK YOU

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 11:07 AM

I love to listen to Geezers bass playing. He is so smooth...

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 11:28 AM

"those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public."

So Geezer has no idea what happened, and they were pretty much planning on doing this without Bill in the first place. Ok, got it.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 11:29 AM

Bill Wards a disgrace to the band legacy

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 12:16 PM

Agreed. This will probably be the last chance to reunite the band. Ward got greedy. Shame on him.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 12:17 PM

"those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public."

So Sharon owns Black Sabbath and had Ward removed.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 12:18 PM

I always thought Bill Ward was overrated. Glad Tony is still rockin and ok!

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 12:19 PM

"those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public."

So Ward couldn't be with Tony during his cancer treatments? Ok, got it.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 1:02 PM

I heard about Ward's greedy deal before this made public from a insider close to the band, but I didn't want to believe it. :(

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 1:04 PM

Geezer influenced my bass playing more than any other bassist.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 3:03 PM

Yo, do you think Geezer likes hummus?

Posted by Sam | May 20, 2012 6:51 PM

what a douche. i dont believe a word he said..."we're not going to make much money from it'...SHUT UP..are you serious? your in f'n black sabbath..not some local band that plays halls. this letter further makes me believe in Bill.

"this stuff is worked out through our representatives' LOL...wish i had one of those. maybe you wouldnt have these problems if you would pick up your cell phone and actually Call each other and TALK to each other.

this is not a reunion.

Posted by randy | May 20, 2012 7:46 PM

Birmingham was so much fun. Seeing Geezer and Tony on stage with Ozzy again was the thrill of the year! Tony still rules!!

Posted by Sam | May 20, 2012 8:36 PM

I love Geezer's bass playing. He is my favorite bassist. When i was a child, I learned all his bass lines. I owe everything I do to Geezer, Ozzy, Tony and Bill. It's a shame Bill caved to greed, but I'm glad they reunited without him. Sabbath has had many drummers. Ward is great, but not needed.

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 8:39 PM

^ Totes!

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 8:40 PM

I HOPE THEY PLAY MSG!

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 8:41 PM

Tony Iommi is really cool

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 10:18 PM

I love Mob Rules

Posted by Anonymous | May 20, 2012 11:01 PM

"charity work" not impressed he should be ashamed!

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2012 8:19 AM

Geezers bass playing changed my style completely. Before I got in to Sabbath, I listened to Nirvana. I wasn't capable of writing a clever bass line before I listened to Geezer.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2012 11:13 AM

"At the request of Bill Ward, through his attorney, so as to not give the public the wrong impression about his involvement in the current Black Sabbath lineup, we have temporarily removed Bill Ward's images from the main pages of the blacksabbath.com official website. In accordance with Bill Ward's attorney's request, we are doing so for the duration of the forthcoming shows." BLACK SABBATH

Posted by Hero United | November 21, 2012 8:42 AM

black sabbath.

Posted by jordon | July 30, 2013 4:42 PM

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