Posted in dance | music on June 25, 2012

Deadmau5

Due to reactions to something EDM DJ-producer, megastar Deadmau5 said in the new Rolling Stone (that he is on the cover of), Deadmau5 posted the following clarification to his Tumber:

we all hit play.

its no secret. when it comes to "live" performance of EDM... that's about the most it seems you can do anyway. It's not about performance art, its not about talent either (really its not) In fact, let me do you and the rest of the EDM world button pushers who fuckin hate me for telling you how it is, a favor and let you all know how it is.

I think given about 1 hour of instruction, anyone with minimal knowledge of ableton and music tech in general could DO what im doing at a deadmau5 concert. Just like i think ANY DJ in the WORLD who can match a beat can do what "ANYONE else" (not going to mention any names) is doing on their EDM stages too. have a look, then let me explain:

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Deadmau5's Tumblr post continued:

okay, so heres me, in a big silly mousehead.. twiddlin a knob or somethin... okay so heres how it works.... Somewhere in that mess is a computer, running ableton live... and its spewing out premixed (to a degree) stems of my original producitons, and then a SMPTE feed to front of house (so tell the light / video systems) where im at in the performance... so that all the visuals line up nicely and all the light cues are on and stuff. Now, while thats all goin on... theres a good chunk of Midi data spitting out as well to a handful of synths and crap that are / were used in the actual produciton... which i can tweak *live* and whatnot... but doesnt give me alot of "lookit me im jimi hendrix check out this solo" stuff, because im constrained to work on a set timeline because of the SMPTE. Its a super redundant system, and more importantly its reliable as FUCK! And obviously, ive done the show a couple hundred times easily by now, so the focus over the past few runs with the "cube show" has been more revolved around adding new audio / visual content to keep it current.

so thats my "live" show. and thats as "live" as i can comfortably get it (for now anyway) of course itll evolve, and change up, but im sure a few key principles will always remain the same.

Im just so sick of hearing the "NO!!! IM NOT JUST DOING THIS, I HAVE 6 TABLES UP THERE AND I DO THIS THIS AND THIS" like... honestly. who gives a fuck? i dont have any shame in admitting that for "unhooked" sets.. i just roll up with a laptop and a midi controller and "select" tracks n hit a spacebar. ableton syncs the shit up for me... so no beatmatching skill required. "beatmatching" isnt even a fucking skill as far as im concered anyway. so what, you can count to 4. cool. i had that skill down when i was 3, so dont give me that argument please.

my "skills" and other PRODUCERS skills shine where it needs to shine... in the goddamned studio, and on the fucking releases. thats what counts... because this whole big "edm" is taking over fad, im not going to let it go thinking that people assume theres a guy on a laptop up there producing new original tracks on the fly. becausje none of the "top dj's in the world" to my knowledge have. myself included.
you know what makes the EDM show the crazy amazing show that it is? you guys do, the fans, the people who came to appreciate the music, the lights, all the other people who came, we just facilitate the means and the pretty lights and the draw of more awesome people like you by our studio productions. which is exactly what it is. But to stand up and say youre doing something special outside of a studio environment, when youre not, just plain fuckin annoys me.

Justice is "playing" Hammerstein Ballroom this summer.

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Comments (85)

animal collective does not press play

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:13 AM

What does Lustmord do?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:13 AM

props to that guy.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:14 AM

Ironic this story and the last post was about Justice!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:14 AM

Wow bold statement.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:16 AM

And the link to the Justice tickets at the bottom HAHAHA

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:16 AM

He could just stop touring, because according to the way he describes it, what's the point? That would be more effective than this long-winded explanation.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:18 AM

Aerosmith's "Just Push Play" was ahead of its time

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:19 AM

@1118 the point is the half-million dollar paychecks that he's picking up for pressing play and dancing around in a big mouse helmet. sign me up.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:20 AM

animal collective should never play anything

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:21 AM

EDM sucks

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:21 AM

11:18 "What's The Point?" - UMM, FREE MONEY!!!!!


Finally a EDM artist I can respect.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:22 AM

How ironic that Swedish House Mafia announced they're calling it quits yesterday...

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:23 AM

FUCK YOU ANIMAL COLLECTIVE

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:24 AM

11:19 ha yeah!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:25 AM

SHM is the most overrated of them all. Do they even have an album? Or their own song? Pretty sure it's all remixes.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:27 AM

What is EDM? A drug?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:31 AM

Who?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:35 AM

What about Kid? Or is it just play who got roughed up by this Mouse Person?

Posted by Grape Ape(!) | June 25, 2012 11:35 AM

This guy just became my hero. Full stop.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:35 AM

Your hero wears a gigantic mouse head.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:37 AM

common knowledge. anyone can play guitar.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:37 AM

What time does Daft Punk go on?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:38 AM

What about this DJ? I'll bet she is the real deal!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/25/paris-hilton-dj-afrojack-brazil/

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:38 AM

Deadmau5 posted that Paris Hilton DJ video to prove his point yesterday. Clever bastard.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:40 AM

Egregious Dick Mongers

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:40 AM

He is just stating what BV readers have known all along.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:45 AM

It is an impressive lighting show. And it is loud. And you'll be surrounded by like-mindeds. That is why someone would go to a dead mow five show.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:51 AM

This dude is a liar!

I hit "Shuffle" never play!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:57 AM

What a minute, it's not live?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 11:57 AM

"He is just stating what BV readers have known all along."

But he didn't have to, and to state it while involved in the scene is a pretty brazen move. I think that honesty should always be rewarded. Like this - some of you BV readers are not as funny or "ironic" as you think you are. How's that for honesty?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:05 PM

good for him for calling it like it is, but i have to disagree about the lack of talent in beat matching. within the digital realm, sure, anyone can do that. but REAL djs, who use VINYL and MIX music, have serious fucking talent. it takes a good ear, it takes dexterity and it takes good taste. the stuff he's talking about is just smoke and mirrors, but at least he has the nuts to say it.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:08 PM

@1208 that may be true, but is completely irrelevant to that which is being discussed.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:09 PM

I thought it was relevant. I don't remember voting for 12:09 to speak for me, so STFU 12:09 your not the voice of BV you stupid fuck

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:13 PM

IPods definitely push play. But there is still diversity from track to track.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:13 PM

I pressed "start" on my food processor this morning.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:13 PM

Laughing at all the suckers that listen to this music.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:14 PM

I am a member of The iPods. We always hit "shuffle" but that is a type of "play".

I am the digital king, I can play anything.

Posted by Jim Morrison | June 25, 2012 12:14 PM

In other news, the sky is blue and it's fucking hot in the summer. Suck on that EDM fuckers.

Love, Billyburger.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:15 PM

12:08 he is talking specifically about EDM not vinyl mixing bye.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:15 PM

Listen. Anyone can do anything. What makes the Ramones the Ramones? Couldn't anyone play those three chords? It's all bullshit.

So yeah, almost no EDM performances are "live." Whoopdeedoo. Thanks, Genius. What's your point again? Nobody's saying it's an artform. But it is a craft, and people can tell who is good, and who sucks, just like with everything.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:16 PM

12:13 made me laugh, and 12:14. Finally some legit funny commnets...

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:17 PM

The ipods the band have diversity from track to track!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:19 PM

"You didn't come here for fancy apps did you? You came for something more, didn't you? You didn't come to rock'n'roll, you came for something else didn't you? You came for something else --WHAT IS IT? You want to see my flash drive, don't you? That's what you came for isn't it? YEAHHHH!"

Posted by Jim Morrison | June 25, 2012 12:22 PM

I vote 12:09 as the Voice of All BV Comments.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:23 PM

12:23 listens to The Mynabirds

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:26 PM

Mynabirds have bigger balls than Deadmau5's fans.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:33 PM

We all sleep alone.

Posted by Cher | June 25, 2012 12:34 PM

Mynabirds have bigger balls than 12:26.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:34 PM

Pretty tough talk for a little man in a Cheetos stained t-shirt in his momma's basement. Maybe you'd like to meet up in person, and we can see who's got the bigger set of balls, whatayasay 12:34? You may want to bring your picture ID and insurance card with you though, wouldn't want to run into any delays at the ER afterwards.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:39 PM

Aphex Twin will kick all your sorry fucking asses.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:51 PM

12:49 sorry not going to catch on...next

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 12:53 PM

lol at 12:39 Comments can hurt the feelings of even the toughest of tough guys.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:05 PM

12:39 just offered to compare ball-sizes. If you throw in a rim-job, I'm there!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:07 PM

Awesome post, I dig it. Basically saying:

1. Our skills are in the studio, as producers.

2. The live shows are just a fun dance/light party, its not about "live instrumentation". Take it for that it is, and if you like it, go.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:15 PM

Industrial music has been doing this for 30 years. Everything was on a DAT tape and you pretended to play keyboards and electronic drum pads. replace DAT with laptop and it's the same thing.

Posted by AnonHUMMUS | June 25, 2012 1:15 PM

since when did "EDM" exist in a class of its own, apart from "electronic music?" if it's mega produced tripe that cannot or is not recreated live, it's "EDM," but if it's a DJ spinning house records, it's not "EDM?"

this is all such clown shit, it's absurd. here's a funny contextual question: who's more of a joke, deadmau5 or bassnectar? lol.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:15 PM

the ramones still played three instruments and sang, fast, competently and in sync. they didnt "hit play" on their ramones playlist; theres no correlation here.

props to danger mouse!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:22 PM

Deadmau5 makes music for 16 year old MDMA users.
But plenty of other people do it better.
He is nothing special, but his little costume is a good schtick so he sells out events.
But 5 years from now people will be deleting his files off their laptop to free up some megabits. He is just another gimmick... But whatevs.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:23 PM

EDM is not only DJs but have encompassed larger music forms of live music with bads such as Bloc Party, LCD Soundsystem and pretty much all of day one of Governor's Ball

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 1:46 PM

when he had twit-beef w that jersey shore dj...that was funny.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:03 PM

if its about the experience, let the experience rock. if you aint into it, dont go to the concert. PERSONALLY I generally do not enjoy electronic music. but i can appreciate other people's penchant for it.

its really annoying how most people think the music they like embodies talent. too many individuals are embarrassed by what they listen to so they try to justify themselves by declaring those musicians talented. fuck that. if that was the case we'd all be listening to Django Reinhardt and Jackie Evancho all day err'day.

...cheetos, what?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:03 PM

I have this app on my smartphone that makes DOPE Beats that would sound so DOPE on a huge soundsystem bro.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:03 PM

1:05/1:07 you totally missed the point. you might want to look up "irony", dumbass.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:12 PM

Now, all of a sudden, I dont hate deadmaus.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:13 PM

deadmau5 best techno band ever

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 2:48 PM

^ after Skrillex

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 3:06 PM

Hummus. The best food source ever.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 3:07 PM

i challenge this guy to hang with The Orb and Orbital and Underworld and then say we all just push buttons. Nope. Just the ones without the talent to do something unique with the music on stage!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 3:51 PM

I push a button called "stop" whenever shitty techno is played.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 4:02 PM

his Tumber

Posted by tomasz. | June 25, 2012 4:25 PM

Would rather see the ipods

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 6:17 PM

deadmau5 is a fucking rat, tells security on rusko for lighting up on stage... dead has decent music but he is still a bitch.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 6:17 PM

dont get it... was gonna write a rant bout how music is ok to be different or something but ive psyched myself out.. gonna sit this one out. Cool deadmaus! how do you control the lights on ur mask? thats awesome.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 6:47 PM

WHATTABOUT DAN DEACON?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 7:05 PM

The world of electronic music is now filled with wankers that program computers at their homes. I sure miss the days of Liquid Sky.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2012 8:43 PM

Yo scratchers are the best beatmen after drummers.

Fuck this pretentious, self-absorbed dick.

Posted by D | June 26, 2012 3:32 AM

this is great and so true for many EDM type performers but there is definitely more than can be done "live" with computers and electronics. you don't have to sync everything with midi. Like someone said above when Animal collective played mostly with samplers, none of it was synced with MIDI. It was still working with the realm of pressing buttons so yea its not gonna be a fuckin Hendrix solo or a rock show but they were still able to create unique shows every night and jam to a certain extent. All of their segways were so awesome and different on those MPP shows. I don't even have a problem with people who don't do much in their live performance such as Dan Deacon when he performs solo. I haven't seen him in awhile but he used to pretty much press play on an ipod and sing through effects. I just think its funny that so many people are like so perplexed and think people with CDJ's on stage is like the craziest thing ever. The whole outdoor EDM fests with 100 thousand people just makes no sense. Seems like the worst way to enjoy that type of music but for now people are banking on it cuz it is super hip

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2012 6:12 AM

From what I could tell, Plaid does not just hit play either.

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2012 2:01 PM

I have seen and heard enough bad djs to know that it takes skill to be a good one. Not everyone just presses play.

Posted by Aaron | June 26, 2012 2:05 PM

That's why you go see iVardensphere, who does live tribal drumming along with their button-pushing. Just sayin'.

Posted by magg0t | July 17, 2012 11:55 PM

12:19 lol FTW

Posted by Anonymous | July 18, 2012 12:50 AM

2:00 AM FTL

Posted by Anonymous | July 18, 2012 2:00 AM

3 words for you. BAD BOY BILL

Posted by Breakdown | July 18, 2012 12:16 PM

Without drugs and lights, EDM would not be drawing these huge crowds.

Posted by Rich DiFeo | July 18, 2012 12:19 PM

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