Posted in metal | music on July 11, 2012

Harley Flanagan
Harley

Cro-Mags founder, Harley Flanagan himself and his attorney have told nynatives.com exclusively in a statement that everything that happened on July 6th at the CBGB's Festival Cro-Mags show at Webster Hall happened in "self defense." Harley was not the aggressor and any and all of his actions were in self defense. This statement is in direct conflict with all major media reports covering the events which happened that night.
Look for an interview in the coming days via the site. It'll be interesting to hear another side of the story to what happened at Webster Hall that fateful night. Either way, we are glad to hear that his alleged target Mike "The Gook" is feeling better, though he is currently seeking donations for his medical bills. Donate if you can, details on how are below.

If you missed it, CBGB issued a statement regarding the incident and we posted pictures from the show before it was shut down.

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THIS IS HOW YOU CAN HELP MIKE COULS:

In lieu of recent events at the Cro-Mags show this past weekend at Webster Hall, the family of Mike "The Gook" Couls has set up a donation fund via PayPal to help absorb the extraordinary expenses accrued from having been stabbed multiple times and hospitalized - with no insurance.

Mike is a recent parent of a beautiful baby girl who could have very easily been left fatherless due to the erratic and callous actions of the perpetrator, Harley Flanagan. It is with great fortune that the aforementioned possibility is not the reality, however, the enormous bills from the hospital are.

A lifetime of commitment is what Mike "The Gook" has offered the greater Hardcore community. We ask that you please donate in honor of his dedication to this community we are all a part of and also in support of his family.

www.paypal.com
mikeandkriscouls@gmail.com
(please mark payment as "donation")

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Comments (63)

they need a better press editor

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:33 PM

anyone who gives the gook $ is a fucking idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:33 PM

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:36 PM

Real Housewives of NYHC.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:38 PM

Is he actually a midget, or does he just look like one?

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:38 PM

"anyone who gives the gook $ is a fucking idiot."

why? he was STABBED.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:42 PM

why are all these guys fighting over the band? It's not like there could be that much money in it.

I mean, really how much money can a 1980's hardcore band be making in 2012?

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:45 PM

3:38 (1) wins the internet today. Everyone come back again tomorrow when the title is vacant.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:46 PM

"I know, guys. Let's put on a show and hope Harley shows up so we can attack him."

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:47 PM

anyone who gives the gook $ is a fucking idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:47 PM

fuck that gook

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:48 PM

Harley apparently posted and/or voiced to people that he was "going to make sure they never played again". He also showed up to a concert with a hunting knife. Pretty strong case - in the retarded world of NYCHC culture.

Posted by Phil McCrackin | July 11, 2012 3:48 PM

I'm sure Harley's sons are very proud of him. Nice to see that they're keeping up their father's tradition of making stupid faces for photos.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:49 PM

anyone who gives the gook $ is a fucking idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:52 PM

3:46 - Sorry but that Real Housewives joke is days old. My money is on 3:47(1) ftw!

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 3:56 PM

the kids are actually pretty cute, too bad their dad is a retard

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:02 PM

Remember, just because a person has kids DOES NOT make them a good PERSON.

Those kids would probably be better off in the system

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:07 PM

Nice that you posted for Mikes fundraiser and not Harleys. I guess you are either afraid DMS or you are betting on the wrong horse.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:11 PM

All right, you want the real story? Mike fell on the knife. Plain and simple. Isn't that right Mike? You feel, right? You've always been such a clumsy lug. So, no stab. Just an accident.

FREE HARLEY!

Posted by D 'oh-mags | July 11, 2012 4:11 PM

is this real life?

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:15 PM

After a show at the Roxy with Bouncing Souls and H2o years ago no one wanted to host hardcore shows when some kid went out in a stretcher.. the scene has been dead for years bc ppl get way too violent

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:32 PM

I want my fucking money back Harley you show ruiner!

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 4:54 PM

Both sides have been extremely vocal about this. Aren't you supposed to keep quiet until the case is closed?

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 5:02 PM

Harley is continually bashing modern day hardcore/metal on his FB page yet here he is wearing a Southern Lord t-shirt. He's been making threatening comments for weeks leading up to this. He's a black belt in martial arts so why would he need a knife in "self defense"? The guy is a total dumb ass and he's a fucking liar too.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 5:20 PM

I thought the next logical step would be to make the rescheduled SOIA/Cro-Mags show a benefit for Mike.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 5:44 PM

not taking sides but anyone who proudly is known as "the gook" has serious issues.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 6:57 PM

Whadt does The Gook have to do with L1n5anity?

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 7:23 PM

not taking sides but anyone who proudly sucks dick for coke has serious issues.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 7:26 PM

self defense for a martial arts expert simply does not include a knife.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 7:32 PM

^this fucking guy ,,,

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 7:40 PM

anyone who gives the gook $ is a fucking idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 7:41 PM

HARLEY IS A HERO!

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 8:00 PM

cro mags have great PR

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 8:01 PM

VOD was special...

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 8:02 PM

not having health insurance is always a bad idea.

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 8:29 PM

He's claiming self defense and still no George Zimmerman jokes. Get your fucking act together trolls!

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 8:38 PM

I was going to give the Gook a couple of hundred bucks... but I already gave them to Harley's Fund. That should provide us with future entertainment...
http://www.indiegogo.com/HarleysArmy

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 9:00 PM

This WILL go to court

Posted by Anonymous | July 11, 2012 9:08 PM

What else are this idiot and his lawyer going to say. I feel bad for his kids.

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 12:44 AM

Hes giving an interview to tell his side of the story to a site his friend runs. That should hold up in court.

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 1:18 AM

JJ sucks $$$ D$$$ but he used to talk MAD $$$$ about them, SOIA and the NYHC scene.
I'm sure it was self defense some clowns carry weapons and will jump ya and sucker punch ya and run away scared looking behind to see if ya coming.

Karma is coming Brother
Jah Bless your family

Posted by jayski | July 12, 2012 6:54 AM

So who are we suppose to feel bad for? the gang member who beats people up, steals and strong arms people or the old white power dude who use to do the same thing?

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 7:17 AM

How does everyone know that it was Harley's knife? Because the DMS crew would never carry weapons right? Sounds like gook got stabbed with his own knife.
That’s gotta hurt the tough guy ego =(

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 7:31 AM

Where is the fund for Rick Ta Life? Dreads are expensive!

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 7:36 AM

Hey, c'mon! Drug dealing gang members need charity too!

Posted by dms | July 12, 2012 9:38 AM

8:02: Indeed. And hey, I'm all for a VOD/LCD tour too!

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 9:46 AM

Harley apparently posted and/or voiced to people that he was "going to make sure they never played again". He also showed up to a concert with a hunting knife. Pretty strong case - in the retarded world of NYCHC culture.
Posted by Phil McCrackin | July 11, 2012 3:48 PM
If that was the case why didn’t he stab Craig Ahead? They probably let him in to jump him for talking trash and then found out the hard way that Harley is a lot tougher than Rick ta life

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 10:08 AM

Blat Blat Blat

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 10:23 AM

Every day you don't donate is another day where Harley learns more about BBC.

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 10:24 AM

There's alot of tough talk on this thread , bashing The NYHC & Harley by people to pussy to leave their names. Remember both John & Harley have been two little scumbags for years they have been consumed by this "Pro-Fags" Bullshit. JOHN stop using the name, simple as that.Its too bad it had to come to this

Posted by George Vail | July 12, 2012 12:47 PM

There was no hunting knife. It was a folding knife of some kind. As dumb as people are and as quick as people are to believe whatever the loudest media tells them, even the venue says it was a folding knife.

Harley has never been into white power. You can say he's violent, you can say he's an ego maniac but he's not a racist.

DMS offers no health insurance to it's members. It's sad but it's the norm in American. The Gook should have sprung for a family policy but like most hard worming Americans, he couldn't afford it.

Just because some of these old hardcore punks are angry shouldn't stop people from enjoying great happy polka bands like The Bouncing Souls. Hardcore is all about that awesome beat, not about anger and entitlement. People shouldn't be so negative.

Jan loves all

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 12:52 PM

Harley Flanagan: SHUT THE FUCK UP! Like you went to the gig to patch things up?! O.k. Who the fuck invited you to the dressing room, asshole. NOBODY. Nobody currently in the band or any former members ever want to see you again. You are the shit nugget that pops out after a week long battle with constipation....

Posted by Booger McCann | July 12, 2012 4:51 PM

TH GOOK GETS NONE OF MY PENNIES. I guess I'm cold as life but I dun give A FUCK.

Posted by Anonymous | July 12, 2012 5:13 PM

@12:52 - Who's Jan?

Posted by Anonymous | July 13, 2012 8:09 AM

5:13 - I put all of my pennies in a tube sock that I just took off after 2 hours on the hoops court, and I will gladly give that to the gook should he show his fuck face around this part of the 'Shwick

Posted by Anonymous | July 13, 2012 8:13 AM

Anyone supporting Harley here must have brain damage. Whether it's a hunting knife or a folding knife, its a KNIFE and someone got STABBED. Secondly, it was obviously premeditated as the dude was spouting off online about taking action against the band. Is there anything I've missed which will certainly put him in jail for the premeditated assault? Please inform me if I'm missing something. Dude is done. Good thing he knows martial arts cuz Rikers is no joke.

Posted by Premeditated Violence | July 13, 2012 10:46 AM

DMS has ruined the NY hardcore scene. You hear guys like Jimmy G screaming about there’s nowhere to play anymore, well you can thank DMS for that! I sort of believe that the knife belonged to a DMS crew member and not Harley. I stopped going to shows regularly because of DMS just beating kids up for looking at one of them the wrong way. Total Bullshit! And the bands can sit up there and say stop the violence, but do they really give a shit? NO! Maybe if JJ ate some meat he wouldn’t be so angry!

Posted by Anonymous | July 13, 2012 11:37 AM

WHERE IS D????

Posted by Anonymous | July 13, 2012 11:52 AM

Harley Flanagan's ode to MarthaStewart-brand D.I.Y. I'd say. She's got those prison face tattoos now and all. John Joseph gave his royalities to the krishna cause maybe??

The only thing this proves is that tae-kwon-do is completely pathetic and it's practitioners resort to prison-style shanking, arms a-flailing. Ever seen Ichi the Killa? ha

Posted by Anonymous | July 15, 2012 4:29 PM

Let's not forget that a lot of these losers are over 40 yrs old, which makes an already ridiculous story, much more sad. NYHC is dead, has been for quite some time.

Posted by Anonymous | July 15, 2012 11:35 PM

cro mags are the best band ever fuck hatebreed and terror mainstream hardcore bullshit harly and john parris ad mr holland should get back together and make a kick ass record again in the vain of there 1986 one end of stroy

Posted by joe | August 10, 2012 10:00 PM

coolness.

Posted by jordon | July 26, 2013 8:32 PM

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