Posted in music on September 28, 2012

Deakin w/ Animal Collective at Prospect Par in 2011 (more by VIncent Cornelli)

Earlier this week, we mentioned that fans were complaining that Animal Collective member Deakin (aka Josh Dibb) never got any of the rewards they were promised by donating to his Kickstarter campaign in 2009. He's since apologetically spoke to Pitchfork about the issue:

"I feel sad, but I've set up a situation where that could be the perception and I understand that", he said. "There are a couple things that are being misconceived."

The primary misunderstanding, Dibb told me, is the belief that he received any of the $26,000. In reality, all of that money has gone directly to TEMEDT, he says. "I think the [Kickstarter] was up for a day or two before I realized that I felt incredibly uncomfortable about the idea of asking people to fund a trip for me to go to Africa... that's why the project turned into a charity thing."

Still, the question remains as to why Dibb failed to follow through on the merchandise promised to donors. Why not just throw together some photos and notes and send them out? The answer can be interpreted as unsatisfyingly simple or as logical and justifiable.

"The gifts were supposed to be based around the music that I had been writing at that time, and when I came back, I personally felt really dissatisfied with it," he explained, and spoke of the struggles he's experienced in recording his first solo record and sticking to his self-imposed deadlines. "For me, as an artist-- whether or not people can be sympathetic to this or not-- it's just been a much slower process to do things on my own than with the band."

What Dibb seems especially apologetic about is his failure to provide donors with regular updates about the project, and to ensure that all the donors have received his messages. "I haven't been the best at updating people in the last two years," he said.

He also mentioned that he sent an update to his Kickstarter donors in August, but that he wasn't sure who actually received the message. The message reads:
I am writing to you once again to thank you for the tremendous support that you all gave back in December of 2009. I am writing you now to deeply apologize for the amount of time it has taken to come back to you with the rewards of your support. I have heard from a number of you expressing deep disappointment in the way that I have handled this project...

I also want to be clear so that all of you know that none of the money you donated was used for my trip. Nor is it being used to fund the materials that you will all be receiving (yes, you will!). All of these things are things that I have paid for myself or will be paying for myself. All of the money that you donated is being used by TEMEDT to continue their work to change the social dynamic in Mali...

...The crux of what has held this up is to record the songs that I was working on around that time in a way that I really felt good about. I am sure it seems inexplicable to some of you that that has taken nearly three years. On a personal level I have been coming to terms with my own creative process and some of that has been to accept that things take a long time to work through me.

So despite the fact that I know that I intend now and have always intended to turn this all into something that you all would be psyched about, I know that I have not been good about keeping you up to date and feeling included in the process which you all have the right to feel. I promise that for the rest of year my only two priorities will be to finish this and to be on tour with Animal Collective. I will keep you updated monthly on what is going on. Lastly I would like to speak to all of you directly if that is something that you would like...

Animal Collective will be in NYC soon for their Williamsburg Park show (10/5) with Micachu & the Shapes.



Comments (38)


Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:31 AM

What a twat.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:32 AM

Apologizing through Pitchfork is a thing now?

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:34 AM

"Blah, blah, blah, thanks marks." -Deakin

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:42 AM

Where exactly is the apology here?
”as an artist” - the most pretentious over used expression in the english language...

Posted by ME | September 28, 2012 10:42 AM

if you funded this, you deserved to get stiffed.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:46 AM

A brilliant metaphor for Generation Cupcake - "Uh,I want to make this album, OK, so send me some like money and stuff, and I'll hook you up! Thanks bro".

He perfectly free to fleece his fans, but this is why I have so little time to devote to latest-flavor artist like this. Integrity and accountability are indicative of honesty in the music as well. I'll take substance over style, every day.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:48 AM

What a douche.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:48 AM

I've been trolling sausages for a while now, and sometimes I get them really spun. I'm an artist too!

If you're reading this and you agree, you're an artist too!

We're all artists!

Now, where are our trophies?

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:50 AM

Every time there is any little bit of news about anyone in Animal collective, Pitchfrok covers it as if they are a really important band that matters a lot. No one will care about this band 2 years form now.

Posted by Ann Romney | September 28, 2012 10:56 AM

Pitchfork gave Animal Collective's last album a 7.4 is the love affair over?

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:57 AM

fucking douche.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 10:59 AM

where was the fatal perfectionism on Centipede Hz?

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 11:00 AM

It may have been different in 2009, but current Kickstarter terms of use say, "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."

Lawyer up, everybody! Deakin owes you a postcard!

Posted by M | September 28, 2012 11:03 AM

10:48 Please relegate yourself back to the metal articles immediately. Nobody wants your old ass here, creepshow.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 11:19 AM

meh, whoever gave this dickweed $ got what they deserved.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 11:21 AM

I'd like to apologize to my wife, Nancy, for the Jessica Hahn bathtub incident. It was stupid, and it'll never happen again. I know you guys are gonna make fun of this, but that's that.

Posted by Jackie Martling | September 28, 2012 11:38 AM

11:19 has such a hard on for me, this guy is stalking me like a pedophile! Wow, who's the creepshow? I mean I know I have that thing the ladies love, and their boyfriends are jealous of me, but damn you really need to get your own life boy! For real! Now, you go have a nice day, sweetheart ;-)

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:03 PM

LULZ @ butthurt sausage 11:19
Go take a show, you circus freak
No neck and knuckle tattoos allowed in AC-related threads
Buh Bye

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:06 PM

^ shower, go take a shower
I type fast, so sue me freak!

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:08 PM

Cliff notes: I thought what I did sounded like shit, so you're not going to hear it until it doesn't.

I can understand that point of view as someone who writes songs and doesn't want someone else to hear it if it sounds like shit. At the same time, I think deakin had an obligation to keep his donors more well informed in addition to giving them some sort of token of appreciation for their funding. And whenever he finishes his record then they can get a copy of that as well. That would've been the best way to move forward.

On another note, I love the new Animal Collective, far more than the new Grizzly Bear that everyone has had a circle jerk over. Which isn't to say that I don't like some the new Grizzly Bear, but some of it is mighty questionable.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:14 PM

$26,000 later, and Africa still has AIDS

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:16 PM

prospect par

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 12:54 PM

12:16 ftw!

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 1:10 PM


Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 1:11 PM

lame. get a job. that record blows btw.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 1:26 PM

Centipede HZ > Shields no doubt, but this guy pisses me off

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 3:09 PM

if there was a way to remove avey tare's vocals...

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 3:14 PM

very lame

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 3:58 PM

I prefer Deacon from King of Queens.

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 4:23 PM

i like how "apology' makes it seem like the deakin the kickstarter not going to play off, then happen anyway!

Posted by Arab Ladies | September 28, 2012 9:25 PM

Dan Deakin

Posted by Anonymous | September 28, 2012 11:12 PM

ayo, reading this pretentious bullshit really pisses me off. this washed up jackass misled hundreds of people for his own financial gain. on some real tight hipster financial shit, it makes me want to avoid donating to any kickstarter in the future.

Posted by frustrated with haters | September 29, 2012 12:23 AM

He is the equivalent of a wall street banker that the hipsters rail against, just on a smaller scale

Posted by Anonymous | September 29, 2012 11:19 AM

What if a thousand Beyonces came and made love to MEEEEEEEEE?

Posted by What if? What if, what if? | September 29, 2012 6:42 PM

lol white people

Posted by Anonymous | September 29, 2012 7:47 PM

Sounds more like Constellation which is rad. The last one seemd a little too clean and less intense

Posted by Yahoo Mail | November 25, 2012 4:26 AM

not fair. That's what I think.

Posted by mike | July 15, 2013 1:38 PM

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