Posted in music on April 22, 2013

Kim Gordon

Kim Gordon talked to Elle:

"We have all these books, records, and art and are getting it all assessed; that's what is taking so long," she says after ordering a glass of rosé. But both have moved on. Among her suitors are a restaurateur, an architect, and an actor. "It's just weird," Gordon says of navigating new romance. "I can't tell what's normal." And Moore has regularly been seen with the same woman, fueling the rumor that his affair helped doom their marriage. "We seemed to have a normal relationship inside of a crazy world," Gordon says of her marriage. "And in fact, it ended in a kind of normal way--midlife crisis, starstruck woman."

Some years ago, a woman Gordon declines to name became a part of the Sonic Youth world, first as the girlfriend of an erstwhile band member and later as a partner on a literary project with Moore. Eventually, Gordon discovered a text message and confronted him about having an affair. They went to counseling, but he kept seeing the other woman. "We never got to the point where we could just get rid of her so I could decide what I wanted to do," Gordon says. "Thurston was carrying on this whole double life with her. He was really like a lost soul." Moore moved out. Gordon stayed home and listened to a lot of hip-hop. "Rap music is really good when you're traumatized," she says.

Read the whole article at Elle.

Info on upcoming Kim Gordon and related Sonic Youth appearances, HERE.

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Comments (184)

Soooooooooo

Who is the tramp?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 4:55 PM

So he was Thirstin For More?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 4:57 PM

She's dead on about hip-hop being great breakup music.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 4:59 PM

Loss of respect for Thurston. How fucking typical.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:04 PM

"Among her suitors are a restaurateur, an architect, and an actor."

Talk about making shit up to piss off Thurston.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:04 PM

Ok BV losers, nerds and sleuths. Kim just sent you manna from heaven. There it is. He cheated and now you have a little bone for which to go and find out who the girl is. Let's see how good you guys really are. After that, let it settle in that Sonic Youth is finished because wise old Thurston got caught in the sexting game. The lamest of all ways to get cheating.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:05 PM

^Correction-"The lamest of all ways to get caught cheating"

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:06 PM

who cares, thurstons new band is awful

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:06 PM

cool story Kim

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:08 PM

Kim Gordon talked to Elle:

"WAh Wah Wah Wah"

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:12 PM

So who is Thurston banging?

We should start a pool. I've got Caroline Polachek.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:13 PM

the girl from be your own pet?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:17 PM

Nope it's not Caroline. Keep trying.

Thurston is an idiot but Kim ain't too bright a bulb either. Read the whole article. Check this particular section about the show Girls

"she’s troubled by what she calls a “misleading” scene in which Marnie sleeps with Hannah’s gay roommate. At one point Marnie says no, but they proceed to have sex, and her objection becomes part of their sex-ual play. “It’s a mixed message about what no means. Gordon points out. It’s part of an “ironic Williamsburg hipster” pose, she goes on, that considers political correctness kind of square"

No, miss feminist standard bearer it's not. It's something called life where things are cloudy and muddled and not everything is so clear cut and follows according to simple rules and catchphrases.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:20 PM

Jayne County

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:20 PM

elaine kahn?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:20 PM

Kickball Katy?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:22 PM

Its Samara Lubelski isn't it?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:22 PM

Follow the clues,

-The girl was a former gf of one of the band members. (Lee Renaldo has been married for years)

-The girl worked on a book with Thurston

-Thurston is still with her and she's out with him all the time

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:22 PM

jemina pearl

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:23 PM

I'd hit that.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:23 PM

eva prinz

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:23 PM

Would not fuck her with a stolen dick.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:24 PM

For everyone hating on Thurston, just remember Kim banged Kurdt back in the day in retaliation for Courtney banging Billy Corgan.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:24 PM

Kim Gordon is 62 years old.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:25 PM

So Thurston is hitting up Iblod's sloppy seconds? Eww....

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:25 PM

got to be elaine kahn?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:28 PM

C'mon fellow BV trolls, if 4Chan can solve the Boston marathon, we can figure out who Thurston is banging!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:29 PM

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:30 PM

It's not Jemina.

Could it be Eva Prinz? Could it be Abby Banks? Or could it be someone else?

Cmon losers, the key is the former gf of one of the other guys in the band.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:33 PM

^^ case closed

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:33 PM

Wow. Sad.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:34 PM

@5:32, that is Eva but did Eva used to date Steve Shelley or Mark Ibold or Jim O'Rourke?

Case not closed

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:35 PM

It's 150% Abby Banks. She is the only one who worked on a book with Moore.

Shame, really, considering how eternally beautiful Kim is, compared to how haggard and gross this Banks lady is. A friend who knows both Moore and Gordon told me shortly after the split that it was due to Moore cheating — but I stupidly refused to believe that. But now, thinking back to the weird lyrical content on something like "Demolished Thoughts," we should have seen this tidbit coming.

Posted by Kay | April 22, 2013 5:38 PM

there's nothing in the article that says thurston had an affair with someone he wrote book with. key words here are "literary project"

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:39 PM

"who's the tramp?" thurston, duh.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:40 PM

Well if it IS Eva Prinz, then this must have sucked for Kim :(

http://pmc-mag.com/2010/12/eva-prinz/

Posted by Kat | April 22, 2013 5:41 PM

DING DING DING, I think I found it. It's this Eva chick.

What a bummer, she seems like a total drag of a human being. (Party loving rich chick without an original thought in her head.)

http://www.printmag.com/interviews/ecstatic-peace-library-thurston-moore-eva-prinz/

"How did you meet and start working together?

TM: This [indicating the book Mix Tape] was a project that Eva was concepting at Rizzoli. Eva solicited Kim to do a book in the early 2000s, and Kim was intrigued but told Eva that I was completely involved with … book lust … and that she should talk to me. Eva had me come up to her office—but I had no interest in doing anything with a corporate publisher. I wanted to do something personalized and DIY, much in the same way I make records. So I didn’t have any aspirations to make a project with a corporate publisher.

I went up to her office with a bunch of arcane projects I was thinking of throwing at her. She said, Before you show me any of that stuff I want you to consider editing this project on mixtape culture. I thought that was such a broad subject, it could go into so many different realms. So I focused it on my Rolodex—these are people I know as artists and musicians who I think will have some kind of affinity to mix-tape culture, and she allowed me to make it as personal as I wanted to … it was really successful and I love how it came out.

EP: That Christmas I got a mixtape from Thurston.

TM: In the book I wrote about a mixtape I made but couldn’t find … in the early ’80s I spent an inordinate amount of time making mix tapes of hardcore 7-inches. I was ensconced in the US hardcore scene of the time. But I eventually found the tape in a box and gifted it to Eva.

We got along really well and had a lot of mutual interests and friends. We next made this book called Punk House. That came to me in the most familial way … somebody I knew mentioned a young a woman [Abby Banks] who traveled around the USA shooting these punk house squats. When I looked at the photographs, I thought it made a really radical architecture survey. And it appealed to Eva too. We started a few projects this way."

Posted by It's Eva | April 22, 2013 5:45 PM

Thurston cheated on Kim??? She's the hottest 50ish babe of all time. Goddammit...love is dead.

Posted by JT | April 22, 2013 5:45 PM

EW. From the printmag piece linked above:

"How do you divvy up the editorial duties?

TM: She winks I jump."

Posted by Kat | April 22, 2013 5:47 PM

5:39 that is not the key. The key is former gf of one of the other band members. C'mon work harder idiots. Kim gave it to you on a silver platter.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:48 PM

I'm on Thurston's side.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:49 PM

@5:45, but that does not say they met through Eva's having dated someone in the band which was all of their introductions to the woman in question.

Who could it be? Follow the clues.

Here is another clue that is not really a clue but the woman was with Thurston at the Chelsea Light Moving show at Bowery. She was hanging out after the show with the band.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:52 PM

520 That Girls show is for retards.
538 Have you seen Kim up close? I doubt it.
Who cares who he's banging.
SY were years past their heyday. No great loss.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:52 PM

@5:52 is right. sonic youth has been irrelevant for more than 20 years now, so it's no loss.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:54 PM

she forgot to mention ma d

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:56 PM

I would fuck Kim Gordon.

Posted by D | April 22, 2013 5:57 PM

Maybe she dated one of the ex-members for a little bit? Couldn't find any info on ex's of O'Rourke or Ibold online that also did lit work with Moore.

That interview someone posted above is pretty telling. My money is on the lame book girl.

Posted by @5:52 | April 22, 2013 5:59 PM

Stop playing games. Who are you that we should even trust when you say "its not her"?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:59 PM

He=55
She=22

I think Thurston wins this round

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 5:59 PM

First Google link for Eva...
OUCH

http://pmc-mag.com/2010/12/eva-prinz/

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:01 PM

Maybe it was Steve Shelley.

Posted by JT | April 22, 2013 6:03 PM

An anti-Army recruitment campaign LOL.

Kim Gordon > Eva Prinz in every way.

'Know why Kim is hot? Look at her body and how old she is. She turns 60 this Sunday and has the body of a 30 year old. That means she has spent the past three decades, half her life, and the second half of her life making sure her ass is nice.

Kim is the Helen Mirren (who I would also smash into next week) of rock.

Posted by D | April 22, 2013 6:08 PM

Not to mention, Kim is extremely talented and intelligent. This Eva Prinz person seems to be a fame whore, hanger-oner in every sense of the word.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:09 PM

It's sooooooooooo obvious the people that are saying Kim's hot are all 30+ year old chicks.
She's not remotely "hot".

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:14 PM

545 Get a life.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:15 PM

this eva prinz woman that people keep mentioning seems to have married some guy with royal connections in 2009

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:20 PM

It's absolutely NOT Abby Banks. She is a friend of mine and I'll vouch for her 100% that she is NOT the "other woman." Thurston and EVA (hello) facilitated the publishing of Punk House...but I'll say it again... She is NOT a part of this split.

Posted by amo | April 22, 2013 6:34 PM

i thought Simon Werner a Disparu was quite good.

i always respected kim but that interview made me love her more. i remember the first time i saw her on the back pic of dirty. i was 12 or 13. and then she was doing clothing for x-girl on lafayette.

do they still have that apartment on lafayette street?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:40 PM

Maybe if Kim wasn't complete cunt, Thurston wouldn't have cheated. And who the fuck told her to move to Greenpoint?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:40 PM

Its all tmz up in my bv

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:42 PM

Blabbing her dirty laundry to the press? How lame. To those who think she is hot (annon 608/9)you have obviously never met her. I'd be scared to wake up up next to her.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 6:50 PM

It's not Abby Banks. It's Eva Prinz.

Posted by annao | April 22, 2013 7:07 PM

everybody knows its jemina in the bizzywiz. someone told me.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:18 PM

Abby or Eva -- they both come across as insecure skanks. Way to ruin everything Abby and Eva.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:23 PM

^Wasn't Thurston married?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:37 PM

its elaine kahn..

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:41 PM

Hmm. Elaine Kahn moved to Northampton, MA "for the summer", and Thurston made her the "assistant poetry editor and business facilitator of Flowers & Cream Press".

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:50 PM

"[Gordon's] good friend, musician and poet Elaine Kahn. A former Bay Area resident, Kahn befriended Gordon’s then-husband, Sonic Youth frontman Thurston Moore, through the music scene some years ago and worked for him at his printing press. Kahn, who was in the band 50 Foot Women and plays solo as Horse Bladder, has been living with Gordon and her daughter, Coco, at their family home for two years."
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/kim-gordons-clothing-sale/

That all fits as well, but would Kim be smiling in a pic w/ her when she and T split a year before?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 7:59 PM

6:14 really nailed it

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:04 PM

Yet ANOTHER instance of a white MAN in power taking advantage and symbolically raping all women with patriarchal authority and privilege. Disappointing.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:05 PM

Whoa, what? I don't know Eva, but Abby is the farthest thing from an "insecure skank." All she did was have a book of photography that THURSTON and EVA wanted to publish, several years ago.... what's the point of trashing her in all this? She doesn't even live on the East Coast anymore.

Posted by amo | April 22, 2013 8:10 PM

A lot of this is factually incorrect. Eva's last name was first Valdez, then Prinz, now Guillermo.

Andrew Prinz of the band Mahogany married Eva in Texas in 2000. She began additional relationships with Jim O'Rourke – and perhaps others – during the marriage.

Andrew concepted and designed the majority of the books Eva and Thurston claim to have done together, as well as books for Richard Kern, Michael Lavine, Alan Moore, and many others.

Andrew divorced Eva in 2007, right before Mahogany toured with Bloc Party. Surprised all of this debacle isn't common knowledge already.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:10 PM

It's pretty common knowledge that Thurston has been sleeping with Frohawk for the last 6 months.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:18 PM

I saw Abby Banks at a Mhow show in dec 2010 with Thurston. They walked out to a car on kent and returned 15 mins later. It was like spotting Bill Clinton with Monica Lewinsky. Gross.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:19 PM

It's NOT ABBY. bv knowitalls can speculate their scenester sightings all they want.... it's not Abby.

Posted by amo | April 22, 2013 8:21 PM

damn you, Angelina

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:34 PM

It was Elaine Kahn, in the study, with a candlestick.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:35 PM

If everything the Anon at 8:10 says is true, then I wouldn't be surprised if it was this Eva woman.

Not making any excuses for T. Moore — cheating is just as deplorable as being "the other woman/man" — but the fact that this woman was a serial cheater herself definitely shows she has no moral qualms about sleeping with married men.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:39 PM

This weird site confirms she was married twice — once to Andrew Prinz, the other to that Dutch royal:

http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/Eva.html

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:46 PM

Thurston needs to get away from these feminist witches!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:53 PM

Thurston already revealed who it was a few weeks ago, in his new single "I Hit It First." I still can't believe he let Khloe get away.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:53 PM

Why would anyone care who these two douchebag hipsters are banging?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:56 PM

"Girls" is more culturally relevant than Kim will ever be! What a bitch!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 8:57 PM

Kim's actually going to be on Season 3 of "Girls"...

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:04 PM

it's Tila Tequila. the "former bandmate" is Billy Corgan.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:07 PM

I heard Abby Banks' dad hired a lawyer for her this afternoon because Page Six kept calling her. Priceless.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:09 PM

Nice. Her dad passed away last year.

Posted by amo | April 22, 2013 9:19 PM

this is the hipster who shot jr

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:20 PM

You guys do need to get a life not to mention some smarts. It's no mystery that it is Eva. This has been well known information for a while now. Whoever 8:10 is knows what he is talking about. Thurston and Eva have been having an ongoing relationship for a while now.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:20 PM

8:57 - Grrrr!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:23 PM

Yeah, I've thought it was Eva for a while now.

Look at her answer to this interview question:
Where are you from and where are you going?

Prinz: I’m from Venus and I will explore the Milky Way

Of course Thurston would fall for that faux quirky, art weirdo bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:24 PM

it's Justine from Elastica.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:29 PM

Once again, a select few BV posters really shine as low-life maggots.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:29 PM

I hope they find happiness down through their different paths.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:36 PM

4:57 won

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 9:54 PM

Every comment about is weaksauce - who gives a sh*t

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 10:09 PM

I fucked Mick jagger.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 10:10 PM

I can tottaly fuck kim if she is looking at this

http://www.elle.com/pop-culture/celebrities/kim-gordon-sonic-youth-profile?src=soc_fcbks

at his 55 years old!

Posted by juyco | April 22, 2013 10:54 PM

I think it is Eva Prinz... I bumped into him down the street from a Kurt Vile show at a record store in Brooklyn meeting with this woman. She seemed very young and very intimate with him. I thought at first it may have been his daughter but after a few seconds it seemed to be more of a romantic relationship than a parental relationship. I winced when I began to realize that I stumbled upon what may be his lover because Kim Gordon was such a guiding figure in my early years. She was tough, creative and broke barriers without having to be so radical. Family life and punk rock ethos could be compatible. Then, I heard a few months later that they were getting a Kim and Thurston were getting a divorce. Oh well...

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2013 11:50 PM

This is is skeezy like Mary Kate Olsen and Sarkozy skeezy

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 12:18 AM

I hit it first.

Posted by Ray Jay | April 23, 2013 1:13 AM

Yeah, if you read that NYTimes Jemima Pearl profile upthread closely, they basically come out and say it without saying it toward the end. "Pearl realized that Moore and Prinz had left 15 minutes earlier without a goodbye. 'That's Thurston,' she sighed."

Newspapers do that sort of shit all the time. The whole tone of that article knowing this shit now seems gross, like the writer saw something pretty obvious and was finding ways to "say" it.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 1:26 AM

Anyone who could watch even 5 minutes of that awful show Girls is a loser.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 3:08 AM

"We seemed to have a normal relationship inside of a crazy world,"

Posted by KELLY | April 23, 2013 4:02 AM

I have lost all respect for her after she spilled her personal biz to a magazine. Keep it to yourself. Just as bad as kissing and telling.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 4:59 AM

andrew prinz is a terrible person.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 5:11 AM

Get a grip Thurston. I have no respect for anyone in Sibic Youth anymore.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 6:54 AM

Jutta Koether

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 8:30 AM

I love how Brooklyn Vegan is getting all Jessica Fletcher over Thurston Moore's girlfriend.

After evaluating the evidence presented, it looks like Eva Prinz is the answer to the whodunit.

And now Jessica Fletcher is ready for a nice cup of tea.

Posted by P.J. Morse | April 23, 2013 9:10 AM

I fucked 929's mother, 118's sister, 522's cousin and 321's dad.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 9:39 AM

damn, anonymous BV commentor investigative journalists. if only you put half as much effort into that job search, yaknowhatimsayin?

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 9:44 AM

I've worked with Andrew Prinz on a lot of projects and he's nothing but charming and incredibly talented.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 10:02 AM

but really, whodunnit?

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 10:09 AM

It was Freddie Prinze Jr.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 10:51 AM

sit on santa's lap and tell me what you want for christmas http://photos.tinnitus-photography.com/img/s8/v84/p1552763316.jpg

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 10:54 AM

Eva Prinz is a succubus and should be beheaded.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 11:00 AM

Eva must have a thing for married men. She had an affair with Elvis Mitchell, too.

Posted by Nobody | April 23, 2013 11:01 AM

Thurston,
We know you read BV comments. Get yo azz in here and defend yo bitch. She is taking a beating.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 11:24 AM

Dental Plan.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 11:31 AM

9:24,

she said the same thing to Thurston, his response was "What a coincidence, I would like to probe Uranus"

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 1:20 PM

"Rap music is really good when you want to be traumatized"

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 1:31 PM

Definitely this Eva Prinz chick. I Googled her, and it's the same chick that was sitting on his lap on the side of the stage at the Chelsea Light Moving show at the Sinclair in Cambridge.

Posted by Ken | April 23, 2013 2:06 PM

Eva, you suck!

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 2:48 PM

Eva is still seen with her husband after her alleged affair. This is from a royal wedding last year http://theroyalchronicle.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/20120617-143437.jpg. I find it all very confusing

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 5:11 PM

Writing about people I shouldn’t care about Pt.1
I cannot believe I'm writing about two people I no longer have respect for and further, lost respect for since '89, but since this story broke a year and some change ago, I found myself irritated at both, the fans’ reactions and the way the press are playing it as they do with all pop culture icons when people are being human and decide to do their own thing instead of ‘playing’ up to some reactionary ideal of marriage and adult life.
“Aw..this couple or that couple broke up, that’s not supposed to happen! Mew..whimper..whine..”
People get bored, tired, dissatisfied, and or disappointed with the turn that their lives have taken and therefore seek an out. It is a shame Thurston Howl chose the typical out that most of us old guys choose: either a shiny new car or a shiny new girl, but there you have it. And while I’m disappointed that this little girl is the catalyst for him wanting a new life, I’m not disappointed in his desire for change, but his excuse to justify it. As a man who’s been married himself for 19 years and I’ve seen a lot of other marriages fall on solid and shaky grounds, I know that at some point people change and want to embark on new challenges or want different scenery and in my book there is nothing wrong with that. You just gotta be honest about wanting it, man up, and at the right time, say ‘you’re out’.
So grow up, people nothing is a fairytale even in the world of punk, which is laughable that so many of you make statements like “I give up on love…” what in the hell does love have to do with marriage and since when?
And while some of you haughty faux-feminists are going on about how ‘typical’ Thurston’s being, I wonder how typical Kim was? I wonder who was really making the big commercial push for SY to go from being underground darlings to the bourgeoisie’s pet-punkers hanging out with the likes of Madonna and living in a mini-mansion all the while still putting on airs as if they’re society’s artful dodgers? Sounds like the formulaic social-climbing New York artist to me. Sounds like the kind of shit that drove Kurt to deep-throat a shot gun and I believe it all came from one person; Ma Gordon.

I bet while Thurston was laying awake at night trying to find some shred deep in him left of worth, some artistic shred that wanted to explore the musical unknown, while Ma Gordon was laying down next to him going on about “artistic” schools (read: elite) schools for their progeny and have they heard from their accountant yet, and did Thurston look at those insurance papers, and did he ever get his passport updated for their vacay in Cancun..yeah, what a fucking life. Eternal bliss. He’s probably walked around their dark house looking at his designer curtains in the house and wondering whose splooge tasted the worse; the corporate record execs at Geffen or Kim’s? I bet he knew then that at some point his life was fun and exciting, now he’s living his mom all over again and he might as well be an unhappy insurance salesman if this is what he signed up for.

So if his midlife crisis is typical, so was Kim’s midlife bliss. They both deserved what they got in the end.

Posted by darklywander | April 23, 2013 5:16 PM

Somebody bitch slap 5:16.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 5:37 PM

Disagree. I love & agree with 5:16.

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 8:24 PM

Kim probably stopped blowing Thurston. He waited till their daughter was in college, then off to score some young pussy. I understand Thurston, good for you, life's too short.

Posted by Ras Trent | April 23, 2013 8:46 PM

i agree partly with 5:16 that people get bored and relationships run their course and Thurston should have been honest but I also don't think there is anything wrong with being responsible and wanting nice things if you are 50+ years old and successful (if his assessment of Kim was accurate or even if it was not)

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 9:11 PM

the iPods

Posted by Anonymous | April 23, 2013 10:47 PM

5:16 - Projecting much? You have no idea what was going on behind closed doors. People think they do - they don't.

Posted by Homer | April 23, 2013 10:51 PM

Did BV get taken over by teenage girls, TMZ staffers, or am I on the belieber message board somehow?

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 12:07 AM

"Ma Gordon" is not responsible for Cobain's death!

Posted by Amh | April 24, 2013 12:44 AM

5:16 - You're bored with life because you're boring.

Posted by Crafty1 | April 24, 2013 12:55 AM

Gordon stayed home and listened to a lot of hip-hop. "Rap music is really good when you’re traumatized," she says. LOOOOOL... SOOOOO WHITE!

Posted by REX RYAN | April 24, 2013 2:14 AM

Time to try to sniff Kim's panties again, Steve Albini

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 4:42 AM

5:16 is right so leave him alone

Posted by child care jobs | April 24, 2013 6:58 AM

Apologies if I wasn't clear on two things:
1. I was not trying to say Kim killed Kurt. I was just trying to posit that if one partner of an artistic couple is possible the social climber; pushing them both into a direction the other person can't handle, or secretly resents, or just plain learns they don't like, then something's gotta give. In Kurt's case, his grubbing wife may have pushed him to the brink and I'm guessing in Thurston's case he was pushed to the brink of boredom.

2. I didn't mean to claim that I knew what was happening behind close doors and you're damn right it's projection. My whole comment is based on educated projections based on real-life experiences and most importantly, other people's real-life experiences. It's funny how the people whining the most about Gordon-Moore breakup are people who've never been married and still believe in the fairy-tale. Live the life of a grown-up, commit yourself to people you are responsible for and have obligations to fill and you'll see how people fall to mistakes, regrets, conflicts, and vices. It's all part of the ride and if anyone tells you different, ask them which family TV sitcom they starred in and when did they get reality confused with their on-set world.

Posted by darklywander | April 24, 2013 7:33 AM

^^^^ who cares, obviously Kim wasn't giving thurston any dome.

Posted by steve albini | April 24, 2013 9:22 AM

Chelsea Light Moving just posted this image of Eva on Facebook, with the caption "move forward with your life." So tacky.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/163969_248375131973544_1939326080_n.jpg

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 10:50 AM

sigh, there are far better and cheaper ways of getting dome if you're a married man and your wife's no longer doing it. I suggest sex workers any day than an affair.

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 11:33 AM

What do you mean? World's oldest and corniest teenager Thurston is a clown, and an insufferable fake beatik, bad poet, horrible fake folk rocking clown at that.

Relationships end, sure, but HOW they do so is the key? Here's not so discrete T & E, oops--

http://www.printmag.com/interviews/ecstatic-peace-library-thurston-moore-eva-prinz/

Posted by Walls Haves Ears | April 24, 2013 11:56 AM

Kim might be hot if you had a few of these handy: http://chdist.scene7.com/is/image/kkamr/BP4019_z1000?$s7product$

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 12:27 PM

who are these people who think kim's NOT hot? i've seen her close up as recently as this weekend, on the street in wburg, and she's looking FINE. and for 59 she's in a class of her own. what demographic can't see her hotness?

she's hot camp has got to be: indyrock women; most white men over 35 who aren't gay.

not hot camp is: dudes under 35 (?);

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 2:20 PM

where is hummous man on this issue?

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 2:43 PM

I've seen Kim up close many times. She looks like she's been ridden hard and put away wet a few too many times. She has aged better than some other heavy smokers, but that's like saying the Outback on 23rd St has better steak than the one uptown. She was always the weakest link in SY. It's sad that any marriage breaks up, but no tears from me, from either my seeing eyes or my penis eye.

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 2:48 PM

Andrew Prinz is a no-talent hack who steals ideas and has a crazy ego. I'm 95% sure he wrote the glowing reviews of himself above. And Eva is just... ick.

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 3:52 PM

Kim was dignified, Thurston was lame ass in response, best to keep silent really.

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 7:32 PM

@3:52 Definitely you are confusing Andrew with Eva.

http://www.metropolismag.com/story/20050516/the-sight-of-music

SEE ALSO: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Prinz

This is his best friend. XX

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2013 9:09 PM

Apologies, what I really meant to say was I cheated on my wife, broke up mny marriage, lost my house and my children wont speak to me. Therefore, all women are to blame.

Posted by darklywander | April 24, 2013 9:10 PM

I read all the comments because it's difficult for me to believe that people have such strong opinions about this private matter. I understand that the media needs to cater to the lowest common denominator in order to succeed. I understand that people identify with the music, and try to identify with the people who created it. The fact that you don't and can't know everything about their marriage and break up shows that there is a limit to the ability to identify with the musician. Don't try to understand. Rest assured, more boring music will undoubtedly be released for you to identify with. If that is not enough, then you are worse than a cheating spouse in how you disrespect boundaries.

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 3:14 AM

I mean, none of you even have ever had a married person approach you for a liaison, so you can only wonder what that's like, and tut tut. Or maybe you are unhappily married, and can't get anyone to have an affair with you. That's the only reason why anybody would form a strong opinion about this, seek to obtain private information, or attempt to discuss this topic with others. If you had lived your lives instead of worrying about something that has nothing to do with anything, none of you would be arguing about this. If any of you had the guts to risk your marriage by taking up with somebody else, you would know enough to mind your own business.

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 3:28 AM

the iPods

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 3:57 AM

@ 3:28

Kim blabbed about the * break up * in Elle. Had she not gone public no one would be following up w comments. Certain things are just best kept private.

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 7:00 AM

Who gives a fuck about this hipster nonsense? People break up all the time; most aren't in a position to be interviewed by Elle about it. Fuck Kim and fuck Thurston.

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 8:06 AM

I wouldn't fuck Kim with your dick 3:28

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 8:08 AM

Hey drunk poster at 3am - she was talking about it to Elle magazine in a completely insufferable article. She created these comments by reaching out to a publicist 'to give her side.' This is what you get back.

Honestly, with the name dropping the eternally spoiled brat sofie Coppola and the description of her by the writer she sounds fucking terrible. Why must all former punk heroes become such rich assholes?

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 10:09 AM

Only thing worse than Chelsea Light is Thurston's dogshit solo career, both the inane songs + execrable "improv."

Kim intended to shame him and rightfully so.

You go, T-bag-- tell us about hardcore again, that's some crazy shit yo, never would have known about it without your "curation."

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 1:03 PM

I just LOVE the people here trying to defend infidelity and blame Kim. None of us lowly youths ever cheated on our spouse so what would we know?? How dare we pass judgement!

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 3:32 PM

"Apologies, what I really meant to say was I cheated on my wife, broke up mny marriage, lost my house and my children wont speak to me. Therefore, all women are to blame."

To the fake me, if any of that happened, I don't think I'll be crying or confessing as if it were all a bad thing. First of all, if my married life got that bad, I'd just walk away. Chasing millennial p*ssy is just lame and having an affair is just as lame. I mean really, what man with some sense wants whiney spousal assault in stereo? I'd always imagine if I got that itch for some strange, I'd rather buy the Fleshlight. far more cheaper and way more quieter.

But yeah, I'm sure it sucked being married to Kim. At least he waited til the kid was old enough. That's all that matters.

Posted by the real DW | April 25, 2013 4:24 PM

would NOT!

Posted by Anonymous | April 25, 2013 5:27 PM

Fleshlights don't bribe your nanny into recommending them as a fill-in substitute for their days off. Fleshlights don't throw themselves at you when they can see that you are vulnerable. Fleshlights don't blackmail you into having an affair with them, by threatening to tell lies about you. Fleshlights don't enter your wife into contests to win a free overseas vacation for one, without her knowledge or consent. They don't take out life insurance policies on you with the fleshlight listed as the sole beneficiary, then proceed to engage in ever-increasingly strenuous and risky acts in the bedroom with you. Fleshlights never take up with a younger, more virile man while you are off working. They would never try to seduce that younger, more virile man to kill you and run away with them and all your money.

Posted by Anonymous | April 27, 2013 7:55 AM

Reckon Brooklyn Vegans, NYC and old Sonic Youth fans were more clever. A fun read ,but all these people have no idea what in heavens name they're on about. Guillermo Prinz family reside over here in London and we know them from primary school as devoted parents to their daughter Zazie and son Julien. Nice kids, leave em be. No surprise to me now why they are private sorts.

Posted by Anonymous | April 27, 2013 7:35 PM

the speculation about kim being a social climber is hilarious considering this eva chick seems to jump from one married man to another, all somewhat famous, one is apparently royalty? i don't think rich shit bothers thurston. he just wanted to fuck a hotter, younger chick because he got married too young. or at least that's what it seems like if he really didn't have other affairs/fuck groupies until a few years ago.

Posted by Anonymous | April 28, 2013 5:30 PM

Hipster Apocalypse!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 28, 2013 8:29 PM

Goddamn right I fuck fans!

Posted by Thurston Starks | April 28, 2013 9:30 PM

Kim Gordon: under every RiotGrrrlll's nose facade rages a Betty Draper.

Posted by csmall | April 29, 2013 8:45 PM

I'm all American Music Club and Matthew Sweet when it comes to break ups. Kudos to Kim for going straight hip hop during her troubled times.

Posted by Miles Curtiss | May 10, 2013 10:17 PM

Have fun with the clap, Thurston.

Posted by Anonymous | May 11, 2013 11:47 AM

Kim Gordon is flawless. Really, I don't understand why people choose pop "singers" as models instead of her. When you're young and open minded in your head, you're young in your body. Kim is more than beautiful. She rocks ! :)

Posted by Myrna | May 16, 2013 6:14 AM

it's just not fair to cheat

call it naive or whatever but it's not

Posted by Anonymous | August 15, 2013 4:02 PM

In some ways, I am not surprised with Thurston having a midlife crisis. For the last 30 years the guy has been stuck on trying to stay/act like a 22 y.o. dude. Those types of guys who run around with a younger crowd and try to live like a person in their early 20s always fall pray to affairs, groupies, and just a personality crisis.

The guy is about to hit 60, he hit the panic button and tried to recapture his youth with a younger chic. Typical rock star stuff.

With those big goofy glasses he wears now, he looks like a 60 year old Redenbacher popcorn guy sadly trying to pass off for 35. He is older than my dad.

The Prinz woman seems shady. Total star hunter. She says she's 34 but she looks like she's 50. Kim is way cooler, better looking and she has soul.

It's good the band Sonic Youth split with this too because the last good album they put out was maybe in like 1996. The albums after that were just thinning the legacy of the previous albums.

I hope they have luck splitting all of the storage units of 20th century junk they collected. Ebay, here they come!

Posted by Rico | September 24, 2013 7:25 PM

Kim Gordon killed Kurt Cobain? WTF! I never knew that! Did she get away with it because of the statue of limitation? They must have been really jealous of Nirvanias success, but I mean come on. She didn't have to KILL him!
If I found out my wife killed somebody, I'd divorce her too. I think Thruston is totally justified in that. She needs to get some help, and she really owes Kourtney Kardashian a appology, and especially her daughter, Beaner.

Posted by Eilieen Eulich | September 25, 2013 3:34 AM

Fuck them and Sonic Youth. There has been so much cool stuff that happened in NYC during the past 20 years but it got overlooked because of Thurston and his whack grunge band taking the spotlight and trying to be the spokesman for NYC. While they were busy doing fashion shoots for Magnet, Vouge, and Spin magazine, Car Park Records, Animal Collective and DFA Records doing cooler shit in the underground.

These old rockers are rebels to readers of Spin and Vouge but to me they are just old rock wankers.

If I was stuck in an elevator listen to NYC Ghosts & Flowers, Free Kitten, or even all that Patti Smith junk they praise, I would just rather snuff it.

Forget them. Go listen to Juan Maclean instead.

Posted by Miki | September 25, 2013 9:44 AM

Shocked. Just as stunned by this divorce news as I was when Tim and Laetitia from Stereolab split. They seemed like such best friend and spoke their own language.

God, that mid-life crisis must be a bitch. Hope I never get old and have to experience that.

Whatever, that's their personal life and has nothing to do with the music. "Mary Christ" will always be there to get me out of the funk when I am feeling blue.

Posted by Eddie P | October 23, 2013 9:47 AM

OLD AS FUCK

Posted by Anonymous | March 4, 2014 5:46 PM

Way to drop high-profile indie names like it gives you street cred, Miki. I love Animal Collective and the output of DFA Records, but they're anything but "overlooked". Being a rock band has been a secondary concern for all the members of SY for at least a decade. They've been more focused on art and experimental/improv stuff. Patti Smith's always been somewhat overrated, but her best work is anything but "junk".

And no I'm not some "old guy" from SY's generation. I'm in my mid-30s, and I've been involved in left-field music since I was 14 or 15. The underground goes much deeper than either Sonic Youth or the Juan McLean, as I'm sure both would happily admit.

Posted by Phil | May 14, 2014 8:07 AM

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