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Hoax @ 538 Johnson, 8/21/2013

Raw punk indebted to early hardcore met with industrial noise at 538 Johnson last night (8/21), when Hoax headlined a set with Crazy Spirit, Warthog, and Pharmakon. Hoax is readying the release of an undoubtedly primitive and vicious LP, and recently dropped a pair of tracks off from the record. Check out those tracks, not to mention video of full, sweat-drenched sets from all four bands in this post, courtesy of UN:ART:IG.

Pharmakon's next move in the NYC area is to hit Basilica Festival followed by Mercury Lounge on 9/11 with Destruction Unit (tickets).

Video below...


Pharmakon @ 538 Johnson, 8/21/201

Warthog @ 538 Johnson, 8/21/201

Crazy Spirit @ 538 Johnson, 8/21/201

Hoax @ 538 Johnson, 8/21/201



Comments (129)

15-20 minute sets all around. really getting your moneys worth.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:08 AM

cool videos.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:13 AM

all the young taints

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:33 AM

how old could that kid possibly be holding the beer in the still of the 3rd video down?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:41 AM

11:08: the show was somewhere between $7 & $10 so yea they probably did. And it's a punk show, who wants to see bands play for an hour plus?

11:41: what're you a cop? His mother? Who cares.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:53 AM

that pharmakon set was the best thing up there. must have confused the hell out of all of the push moshers...

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:14 PM

11:08 is probably one of the hipsters who just discovered hardcore, and thus is clogging up Ceremony and other shows. 15-20 minutes is par for the course, you fucking dunce. The songs are short and their catalogs aren't exactly deep.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:21 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:22 PM

singer looks too old to be doing this

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:23 PM

the singer of Hoax? Pretty sure he's younger than I am (I'm 29). Do you say that about the goofballs playing guitar wearing sleeveless dress shirts and red and white striped short shorts?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:26 PM

^I have no idea what you're talking about.

If you're 29 you're WAY too old for this shit. Hardcore is SUPPOSED to be for teenagers.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:31 PM

I'm referring to goofy ass hipster bands who dress like they closed their eyes and picked their clothes out of a huge pile some hippy lady threw away 15 years ago.

and can you point me to the rule book for hardcore? I must have lost my copy at some point.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:44 PM

if you're 29 years old and somehow still relate to the rage of hardcore, there is a good chance you're a loser at life.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:51 PM

12:31 turned thirty, married a handsome and uninspired women and now votes republican--just like I told him to.

Posted by the rule book | August 22, 2013 12:56 PM

That's not a beer, it's cold brew coffee from Colombe. Getting pumped.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 12:57 PM

12:56 turned thirty, still makes $10hr delivering pizzas, and his girlfriend left him because she's wasn't quite that stupid, and got a pretty good idea what to expect in the future. He hangs out with his bros, and still lives pretty much the same lifestyle he did when he was 19. Big hardcore fan.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:03 PM

12:44 reacts in rage to latent insecurities. Deep down he knows he isn't good enough to compete straight, so he has crafted an emotional hedge of quasi-bohemia and err....politics. Big Hoax fan.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:06 PM

12:56 is Peter Pan...the boy who would never grow up.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:11 PM

12:51- if you think such broad statements have any truth to them, you aren't as insightful as you obviously believe yourself to be.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:13 PM

You're all winners in my book!

Posted by Anonymous Pansy | August 22, 2013 1:15 PM

12:56 is Max Horwich

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:16 PM

lol @ 1:31. What a drip. Look at the audience, do you see a lot of 40 year olds? Ever wonder why?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:17 PM

You're all provincial dorks.

Posted by The Big Fapper | August 22, 2013 1:23 PM

1:11, 1:13, 1:15, 1:16, 1:17...just pathetic.
the rule book wishes wesleyan could have better prepared you for real life with adept comment replay skills.
Step one, write...then read. You'll be able to condense all this B material into one comment instead of incessantly hitting send before you complete your thought.

Posted by the rule book | August 22, 2013 1:31 PM

this music is so bad

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:35 PM

1:17 - I could care less why other older (in a relative sense to the typical audience) people aren't as common in attendance. I have always liked whatever music I like, and don't pigeonhole myself into one genre. I also didn't suddenly become a completely different person (or become decrepit and out of shape) when I turned 30, just because I have a career, home, wife, etc.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 1:47 PM

^so the changes in your life have zero impact on your interests, tastes, or sensibilities? That's truly bizarre.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:02 PM

Personally, i COULDN'T care less. I'm sorry that you have the burden of caring.
Also, I do not have the burden of liking the music that I like. Usually I enjoy listening to music that I don't enjoy. Well written, my friend.

Posted by The Big Fapper | August 22, 2013 2:04 PM

2:02- Your statement does not represent what I said at all. I said that I didn't become a completely different person. How did that become "zero impact on (my) interests, tastes or sensibilities"?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:06 PM

1:47 may have a point, it's just that he needs more time in ESL.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:10 PM

I pigeonholed my wife into one genre, but allow myself the freedom to indulge my musical caprice.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:12 PM

I don't care how old you are, why would anyone want to listen to this terrible music with this doofy white guy screaming over it?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:14 PM

did they have the new album last night?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:23 PM

Should I look up 'pigeonhole' on Urban Dictionary, or would that be too provincial? For the record, I love what I hate, and I hate to be decrepit.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 22, 2013 2:28 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:44 PM

This shit is for teenagers dealing w/ puberty.

Just awful.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 2:58 PM

I am 43 and still listen to some punk and hardcore! I am not a loser!

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 4:46 PM

48 and seeing Hoax tonight. I may be a loser, but I'm still having a good time.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 4:58 PM

Good thing the sets are short. My Depends won't make it too long.

Posted by 78 and going to Hoax | August 22, 2013 7:39 PM

2:58 listens to dale earnhardt jr. jr. or jherek bischoff...

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 7:52 PM

I'm 33, divorced, deliver pizzas, and have a neck tattoo. Huge Hoax fan. What about it?

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 9:19 PM

I'm 26 with a large mustache and hummus stains on my button down.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 9:44 PM

Oh pipe the fuck down all-a-yuhz.

Hoax is crap. The undercard is crap. 538 Johnson is a loft a bunch of kids whose parents pay at least half or most of their rent rent. Venues with no vocal monitors or stage suck ass. So do NYC shows with less than 10% people actually from NYC.

All you idiots (or one idiot) going on and on and on about how people are too old for this and that WHAT DOES IT MAKE YOU THAT YOU'RE POSTING IN THIS ENTRY?

The said thing none of you get is the best underground music within the limits of the five boroughs aka New York, NY occured through I'd say 1992. After '92 NYC became whack. 2013? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Keep pretending it's 1980-84 kiddies. I'll listen to Negative Approach and well, Negative Approach, and oh...I can still go see them if I want to, too.

Posted by D | August 22, 2013 9:52 PM

I heard the lead singer of hoax ate a ton of hummus with laxatives before his set, and as the 20 minutes were over he threw his shit at the fans like true NYHC.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 10:09 PM

The underground house/techno scene is still alive and kicking in nyc D. You should check it out.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 10:10 PM

D you too old for this

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 10:24 PM

^ Tell me about it, I'm dead serious, and be prepared for a slew of attacks.

Let's hijack these comments with talk of a real underground music scene in NYC which I consider house/techno cuz it still has an element of surprise/unknown-ness unlike hardcore punk which is nerds wishing it was 1982 in 2013.

Posted by D | August 22, 2013 10:27 PM

The only true scene in NYC today is real estate speculation #realtalk

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 10:42 PM

The real NYC scene is the underground artisinal hummus culinary scene. There are amazing chefs from Long Island, Queens, Linden, Brooklyn that are coming together to challenge the traditional conception of a hummus platter. These chefs are reinventing the modern idea of hummus through new ways to enjoy it, how to enhance its flavor, and have even figured out new ways to pair it with drinks.

Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:09 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 22, 2013 11:16 PM

This is as close to underground as the food scene gets. It's as if I was about to consume some endangered, outlawed delicacy only available on the black market.

But you didn't need a covert passcode or a secret handshake to gain access to New York's inaugural pop up hummus cullinary competition. Anyone could walk right in to this makeshift dining hall that seated 30 ish, a room of mismatched high tables whose tops were devised from reclaimed wood, coupled with industrial stools and wicker outdoor chairs. Yet it wasn't too terribly long before friendly faces poured in to chit chat with strangers as if they had just bonded over a bong fuming with Jamaican grass.

Behind this clandestine venture is James Nelson, who you may know as either one of the fellows that started Bravado Spice Co. or the long-haired, bearded, tattooed chap who's making New York City proud with his ability to reinvent the craft of hummus unlike any other chef in the world.

Posted by Gael Greene | August 22, 2013 11:22 PM

^ You have finally gone off the deep end.

Seek help.

10:24 I'm starting to believe you haha.

Posted by D | August 23, 2013 12:47 AM


You think I have gone off the deep end? Are you shitting me?

Posted by Gael Greene | August 23, 2013 1:10 AM

Don't worry their is a cure for going off the deep end. Its called a therapeutic relaxation retreat these usually last between a week to a few months, and come with complimentary hummus platters. I guess I may have to take it.

Posted by Gael Green | August 23, 2013 1:12 AM

All you HATERS can shove it. I can relate to the spirit of this music. At Wesleyan there were serious injustices that needed to be addressed. Keep fighting the good fight Hoax.

Posted by Max HorWich | August 23, 2013 1:13 AM

^1:33, watch seinfeld for ten minutes and steal their jokes or get some decent material.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 1:18 AM

What are you assholes even talking about? I'm 27 years old (Wesleyan '08) and if this is too loud for you, you're too old. This is the sound of young white rage.

Posted by Max Horwich | August 23, 2013 1:28 AM

I just youtubed Max Horwich then clicked on his account, which links to this video. What a fucking troll.
These are the videos he has liked or whatever.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 1:34 AM

Dear D,
When blabbing on about how everything was better 20 years ago should I start it off with "Back in THE day" or "Back in MY day". I really need to perfect my crotchety old punk persona....

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 8:33 AM

I thought GG Allin died?

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 9:33 AM

If Urban Outfitters sold GG Allin it would be the singer from Hoax.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 10:28 AM

I'm sticking with the Ric Flair reference. GG actually could sing when he wanted to (see the movie 'Hated' and there's a scene where he sings a Warren Zevon / Linda Ronstadt song shockingly well.)

Posted by xTAINTx | August 23, 2013 10:43 AM

gg was just as bad a gimmick and only remembered fondly because he died like the useless junkie he was. he was a shitty cock rocker come "extreme punk" because nobody gave a shit about his actual music and wanted to see the dumbass with the tiny cock cut his head and smear shit all over himself.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 10:54 AM

^PUHleze. Ric Flair is a legend. This dork couldn't carry Flair's jockstrap.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 10:55 AM

10:54 - you weren't there.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 23, 2013 11:00 AM

Who cares? It's a bad Iggy knock off anyway

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 11:04 AM

Dear 8:33,

Congrats for pulling the age card yet again.

Keep showing that you are asshurt that you missed hardcore through 1992 and thinking Hoax 2013 is in the same league as Cro-Mags 1987, Agnostic Front 1991 (their return), Burn, or if we wanna talk Boston/MA hardcore, SS Decontrol, DYS, Siege, and Deep Wound to name a few.

10:54 True but he was bonafide crazy, and you missed my point which was the Hoax singer is fake crazy. He goes out of his way to do dumb shit, GG was just a total unknown quantity people literally feared. It wasn't cool but it was what it was and if you paid to see him, you paid for something if not his music (what I have no idea but to each his/her own.)

Posted by D | August 23, 2013 3:03 PM

you too old for this shit D

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 3:10 PM

Dear D,
Where can I go to find the best list of hardcore band names to drop in order to impress nobody but make myself feel awesome nonetheless?

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 3:16 PM

Some men have wives and kids and houses an careers.

D has hardcore :(

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 3:18 PM

As an old sausage, I like Hoax. They've got "it" and they've got a substantial audience. His voice roars like GG, but his self abuse is different from GG or Antiseen. I didn't see any audience abuse, however his blood is still real--like he's working out his problems on stage more than being a living rock n roll animal or reopening old wounds with razors for cheap theatrics. I saw AF on the Punks vs Skins 86 tour in Boston with GBH...I was a little young to see the first run of HC that everybody pined for even then, but I saw most of those bands in the mid-to-late 80's in Boston or Providence (last Black Flag tour, Circle Jerks, HR's first return to Bad Brains on Quickness....etc etc) if they didn't implode/move on to something else...I was more into the AmRep noise-rock thing from ground zero and moved to NYC in early 90's, and mostly didn't keep up with hardcore unless something catches my attention. I'd rather see small bands from Marz Bar or Hanks if I'm going to see shitty hardcore, not the "pro" bands. However, I had practice around the corner the other night and having MA roots I was curious enough to take a 10 minute walk down Johnson after and check it out with my buddy that was even older than me and remembers Harley as the little kid from his neighborhood he saw at parties. We both thought the scene was super aggro prison yard shit, no air-- 130 degree fire trap overstuffed in the room & narrow hallway, but hey it was free when we got there, a ten minute deli walk got us 40's, we could be the old men in the back under the overhead and drink beer and watch the kids get kicked in the head by divers above instead of standing in the front and getting kicked in the head like I did when I was 14 or the A7 reunion gig that sent my NYHC buddy to 6 months of chiropractor hassle. The show was timed with our beer finishing, my friend could buy a $15 record that will be worth $500 in 20 years and we could go home in a nice cool 80 degree night.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 3:36 PM

I'd be wasting my time trying to snark up the last comment. You clearly know what your talking about, but I'm sticking with the cheap theatrics opinion. Maybe Ric Flair is too high praise. Captain Lou Albano of hardcore?

Posted by xTAINTx | August 23, 2013 6:16 PM

3:16pm I listed who existed back then, deal with it. You wanna call your shit "hardcore" you will ALWAYS be measured against the best of it. Maybe if more people did that hoaxes like Hoax wouldn't get over. Seriously this band would've never made a dent in 1987 or even 1997.

Some men have such little lives they reply to who they think are BV comments trolls - 3:18pm is one of them.

Oh wait, I have to have a wife, a kid, a career, and a house to have a worthwhile life - puh-leeze. I don't "have hardcore" cuz I don't want it, not in 2013 - it's over and been over since '92.

Posted by D | August 23, 2013 8:04 PM

Dear D,
Are you a good team player?

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 8:13 PM

3:36 Oh please. Add "sh" to "it" and that's what the Hoax singer has. He isn't abusing himself, he's just acting out. Yeah a Hoax shirt is gonna be worth $500 in two decades, sure.

You're oldschool, we get it. You're also clueless about what went down here 1985-92 cuz that's where it was at, not before or after that. Btw if by "Marz Bar" you mean "Mars Bar", Mars Bar never had hardcore bands. Hank's as in Hank's Saloon? GTFOH. Who's "pro"? Sick Of It All? Agnostic Front? Yeah bands who blow away Hoax and whatever wannabe Killed By Death shit being passed up for "hardcore" nowadays.

That whole 538 Johnson scene is a poser-fest. Look at us pretending to be what we think was the early '80s hardcore scene yet 95% of us got into hardcore from 1998 on. They wear the clothes and do the dives, but don't and never will get it. They're not like the kids who were around in the '80s. Your memories like so many are revisionist.

Posted by D | August 23, 2013 8:16 PM

8:13 Are you another D-rider? Discuss.

Posted by D | August 23, 2013 8:23 PM

D, the old days sucked. Go somewhere else to live in the past. The only person who cares other than you is Harley Flanagan.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 8:33 PM

The comments on this post are hillarious.

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 8:36 PM

The only good NYHC band was Born Against. The rest of those guido/Krishna knuckledraggers blew goats and still do

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 8:47 PM


How many NYHC dudes have you fucked?

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 9:03 PM

p/a/y/o/l/a blog cashin' those checks!

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 9:04 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 9:31 PM

the most terrifying thing found out in this thread is the fact that D has spawned. what will happen if one of them were to become interested in those old records of yours? will you tell them they can't listen to them because "they weren't there"?

Posted by Anonymous | August 23, 2013 10:00 PM

D didn't spawn in this thread. He spawned a while ago.

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 12:04 AM

8:33 AWWWWWWWW loogadawiwl bitchass sore that he missed hardcore punk and metal 1980-92.

Yeah, the old days sucked, that's why 90% of the bands still packing venues are from before '92...and current hardcore bands are ripping them off at every turn from sound to t-shirt designs to jocking their crowds.

Get back to me when Hoax headlines Irving Plaza bitch. 'Never gonna happen.

At least I'm from "the old days" not desperately trying to reenact them or I should say an idea of them from what's on the internet like you, your pals in Hoax, and 99% of hardcore 2013.

Posted by D | August 24, 2013 2:25 AM

9:03pm How many members of Hoax have you fucked?

Born Against the last great NYHC LOL. Piece of shit band.

10:00 It's not about "not being there". I want to see hardcore end because it needs to end. It's irrelevant, overrun by well-adjusted fakes, clowns like Hoax etc.

Time for a new musical revolution. Hardcore is not that.

Posted by D | August 24, 2013 2:29 AM

head for the hills! D's going nuclear! we're all going to get schooled!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 10:13 AM

8:33 here, more like GLAD i missed that era. i had enough of dealing with jocks and guidos in high school, so why would i want to go to see shows packed with a bunch of them playing shitty metal riffs?

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 10:31 AM


Cool story, bro.

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 10:35 AM


You're glad you missed 1985-92 hahahaha you fucking herb. More like you're sore you missed it and I got news for you: hardcore before 1985 was VERY violent and had plenty of meatheads.

Yeah, Cro-Mags "The Age Of Quarrel" was a compilation of "shitty metal riffs", you idiot. 'Guess you never heard Youth Of Today, Life's Blood, Absolution, Krakdown, Citizens Arrest, Burn, Underdog, Nausea, and many other bands who either didn't play metal or didn't have "shitty metal riffs". Btw WTF would you know about the time I'm talking about when you weren't there?

Posted by D | August 24, 2013 12:16 PM

oh D, have you been juicing again? major roid rage? fucking tool....

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 12:17 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 12:44 PM

12:17pm now I'm taking roids LOL.

What will you D-riders come up with next?

Btw a "D-rider" is anyone who replies to or mentions me in comments I post in or don't.

12:44 I'm really bringin' it down with this hammer I got man, so why don't you wise up as you're only young once and yo sucka you got a big mouth bidipbo.

Posted by D | August 24, 2013 3:19 PM


Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 4:38 PM

In all honesty, D could be A.J. Novello or some shit. But, realistically, he probably isn't. He is more like a Ozzy Osbourne character rambling utter shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 24, 2013 11:02 PM

^ Ahh wuuuhhht? Muay? I aintno faackedaap buhnt out ol cretinous moloko my dear young millicent.


Posted by D | August 25, 2013 1:39 AM

^D is blacked out, or thats some other idiot. I think he is blacked out.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 2:00 AM

^ No it was me. I was mocking Ozzy 2013 and the idea that I'm like him.

You people are so lame with your comebacks.

Btw Hoax's singer is a GG Allin wannabe and it's sad and pathetic.

Posted by D | August 25, 2013 11:53 AM

GG Allin was an Iggy wannabe and he's dead and pathetic

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 1:44 PM

How was GG an Iggy wannabe?

Agreed re: GG. All I'm saying (since you and x amount of others have missed my point entirely) is GG was a crazy piece of shit and the Hoax singer is a pathetic whack GG wannabe who isn't the crazy so many make him out to be.

Posted by D | August 25, 2013 3:30 PM

This guy is a real scuzz ball.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 6:15 PM

You know what's sad and pathetic? D acting like the fact Hardcore exists these days is affecting his life so much.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 8:50 PM

The sad truth is that hardcore was dumb then and is only dumber now. Dumb was great when it first started because no one had ever done dumb before. Just like 12-bar blues wasn't always the most boring form of music known to man. When it started people were blown away. Now? please. Imagine how hard it is now (as opposed to 1985) to find a riff that no one else has played before. It's much harder, and chances are good that it wasn't already played by someone else because it wasn't worthy. Sorry everyone, D included. It's just an extremely limited form of art.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 25, 2013 8:55 PM

D, if you hate that Hardcore is around so much, then ignore it and move on with your life. Don't cry to the younger crowd and act like music of the world should revolve around you.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 8:55 PM

xTAINTx thanks for letting me know I shouldn't enjoy something because it's simple. I'll be sure and remember that next time I'm enjoying myself at a show and leave.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 8:58 PM

Odd to me that so many people take time out of their day to comment on this article if they have no interest in it. Why read it in the first place? To tell people they shouldn't enjoy music you don't jam?

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 9:00 PM

You're welcome. Once you're over it and jaded, you'll remember me fondly. Have fun with your shows, and mind your taint!

Posted by xTAINTx | August 25, 2013 9:01 PM

xTaintx, I'll never be "over" having fun and enjoying live music. I'll be going out to shows till the day I die.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 9:05 PM

It's amusing how offended people get at the fact people like going to Hardcore shows in 2013.

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 9:07 PM

9:05 - I hope you're right. Maybe soon, someone will do something more interesting than Ric Flair-ing for attention.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 25, 2013 9:09 PM

xTAINTx there's a lot of different music out there, why is the fact Hardcore is still around making your life so misreable?

Posted by Anonymous | August 25, 2013 9:10 PM

oh so miserable. you can't even understand the misery. sooooo miserable. you're missing the point. i just like making fun of Hoax.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 25, 2013 9:27 PM

Hoax is okay, but Crazy Spirit and Warthog kick all the ass. This comment war is dumb and full of crybaby posers.

Posted by Anonymous | August 26, 2013 12:00 AM

XTAINTX I'm not looking for anything new in hardcore, I just want it to end ASAP. It's played out, done, over. At some point it has to end. This "it'll never die" nonsense is just that.

The jazz scene of the early 1900s died, the '50s rock 'n' roll scene died, the '60s peace and love hippy Woodstock scene died, the '70s metal scene died, yet '80s hardcore is still kicking around and has a gazillion mimickers, and it's FUCKING RIDICULOUS. RIDICULOUS that someone born in 1985 is playing shit that sounds like bands who were around that year.

I wasn't into grunge but I respect Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Mudhoney cuz they did something different then stepped off. Nirvana would've ended sometime in the '90s had Kurt not killed himself and no way Kurt would've reformed the band.

Again watch videos of shows from the '80s and early '90s and it's just another world.

Posted by D | August 26, 2013 12:19 AM

^ aren't you supposed to be at the vmas or was that a fake d?

Posted by Anonymous | August 26, 2013 12:20 AM

^also nirvana is basically a pixies cover band

Posted by Anonymous | August 26, 2013 12:21 AM

There does D saying that Nirvana did something different, but Kurt Cobain admitted he just wanted to be like the Pixies.

In a January 1994 Rolling Stone interview, Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain revealed that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was an attempt to write a song in the style of the Pixies, a band he greatly admired. He explained:[4]
I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.- wikipedia

Posted by Anonymous | August 26, 2013 12:33 AM

^ Oh please. He was being reverential. Nirvana sounded nothing like The Pixies, no one publicly accused Nirvana of ripping off The Pixies, and no one sounded like Nirvana 1991-94 (the era the band broke big in.)

Bottom line is Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, and other so-called "grunge" bands were doing something different in 1989-94.

Posted by D | August 26, 2013 11:09 AM

D - I'm nowhere near old enough to know this first hand. I just read a lot. When Sha Na Na started in the 1960's, they used to (humorously) fight with the audience and swear at them and act like a real 50's biker gang. Then they softened up to make more money. Maybe Hoax will turn to emo next.

Posted by xTAINTx | August 26, 2013 11:16 AM

Nah Hoax will just break up. This band is a one-trick pony, that being a fake-crazy wannabe GG Allin singer.

Posted by D | August 26, 2013 11:23 AM

Margaret Chardiet's Pharmakon project knocks me out. I love the feeling of discovering that somebody is making music that is so precisely up my alley that it beat me to the punch. 

Posted by Daniel | January 30, 2014 10:54 AM

The opening song is entitled "I Have a Sweet Yellow Bad Brains Tee". It might also be "Knives". Who knows?

Posted by Lopez | February 6, 2014 11:52 AM

I like them too.

Posted by chris | February 11, 2014 8:01 PM

Great old blues vibe....I feel young again !!

Posted by Collin | May 10, 2014 10:00 AM

Antonio from Spine told me. He's good friends with the guys in Hoax so I just took his word for it.

Posted by Teagan | May 26, 2014 12:38 PM

damn, it's only when i look at the crowd that i realize i am not in my 20's anymore...must have been a fun set to attend :D !
can't get enough of that band since i ve discovered them ! 

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