Posted in movies | music on September 11, 2013

by Doug Moore

Vision of Disorder (more by Kurt Christensen)
Vision of Disorder

In other crowdfunding-related news, a pair of Long Island hardcore fans named Nick and Chris Lilli are raising money for a documentary on the region's legendary DIY hardcore tradition, titled Something in the Water: A Film About the Long Island Hardcore Music Scene. Of particular note are the incentives, which rely largely on contributions from Saint Vitus Bar (whose owners were heavily involved in the 90s/00s LIHC scene). $300 will get you five show passes to Vitus, plus a DVD, a t-shirt, and thanks in the credits. $500 nets you a one-year unlimited Vitus pass plus the same goodie package, and $1000 scores lifetime unlimited access to Vitus gigs. If you plan to attend more than 100 Vitus shows before you kick the bucket, it's actually kind of a steal. (You may want to spring for earplugs, too.)

Contribute to the fund for Something in the Water: A Film About the Long Island Hardcore Music Scene here.

Trailer for the film below...

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Comments (101)

let me know when someone is doing a documentary on abc no rio

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:40 PM

I saw most of these bands at Maxwells..Loved their hardcore scene!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:43 PM

I wonder what D thinks about this.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:48 PM

Long Island hardcore blows.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:56 PM

Oh boy, this has the potential to be the best BV thread yet! Come in trolls, red meat*!!

*sausage

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:59 PM

256 moved from ohio two months ago and thinks he's hip! you wouldn't know what hardcore is from where you're from buddy.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 2:59 PM

@2:40
There was a doc on ABC No Rio ages ago..

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:05 PM

North Shore twinks or South Shore sausage? Which do you prefer?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:05 PM

LI Softcore

Yuppies.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:06 PM

Did you mean Yuppicide?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:10 PM

NJ > LI

All day long.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:10 PM

I wonder if this doc will have any fat guys in cargo shorts in it?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:12 PM

2:59 - I grew up on Long Island, bud. It's all macho bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:12 PM

someone go to the storage shed in Astoria where D lives and wake him up.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:20 PM

"NJ > LI"

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:24 PM

Crowdfunding = begging

If your documentary really was interesting, you would have found capital already.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:29 PM

so, you're saying Ian MacKaye is not interesting? sure.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:31 PM

Being a native Long Islander, I still don't think LIHC was/is as good as people here boast it to be. Yes there have been some great and important bands who came from here (Crumbsuckers, Kill Your Idols, Silent Majority, Crime In Stereo to name a few) and there are some great bands killing it now (Incendiary, Divider, Iron Chic, ect), but its always been absurd to me how much Long Islanders overrate LIHC and Long Island music in general. LIHC never held a candle to what was going on in NYHC, maybe up until now since all punk/hardcore coming from NYC is yuppie transplant stuff. Just my two cents.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:35 PM

link to abc no rio doc?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:40 PM

VOD, silent majority, madball, kill your idols were my high school days. PWAC was the place to be.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:42 PM

from the trailer, it appears there are not just LIHC being discussed, but I could be wrong. I liked the more melodic punk from Li like 1.6 Band, OTMOP, Garden Variety, Science Diet, Farkus Affair etc... and I could really care less about HC.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:43 PM

Explosive diarrhea > anal warts > genital warts > 30 ft. of homeless people excrement > Slutvomit > LIHC > NJHC > NJ in general

But don't feel bad NJ pussies, at least you're not from Philly.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:44 PM

I grew up in Long Island around this time and there were a lot of bands and a lot of shows all the time, but "scenes" are usually just nostalgic ideas that are created later in hindsight.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:46 PM

I'll give money the sequel about Long Island Ska! Ugh. The Scofflaws still play I think.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:47 PM

D please bore us!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:49 PM

The story of Mind over Matter and Sons of Abraham must be told!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:53 PM

lots of tattoos, lots of oversized basketall jerseys, lots of shorts in winter, lots of heavy accents, moshing, bad music that doesnt hold up. There i just told the story of LI hardcore

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:59 PM

Clown shit.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 3:59 PM

3:59 and in a few seconds I can tell your negative, troll story.

no life, nothing to remember you by, nobody who cares your even alive.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:01 PM

This movie better be a 90 minute love letter to the Warped Weeble Wobbles.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:04 PM

right track inn - freeport

sundance - bayshore

that spot out in northport that i fucking forgot 'cause i'm old as shit

used to run with those kids from science diet, garden variety & farkus affair

fuck it all

Posted by x marks my spot | September 11, 2013 4:11 PM

Long Island turned its back on hardcourt a long time ago. Now it's all grass and clay. sad.

Posted by arthur ashes | September 11, 2013 4:12 PM

^Devin from DIIV here. I concur. Long Island totally turned it's back on hardcore. It's all neon, twerkin, and the electric zoo these days.

Posted by Serpent | | September 11, 2013 4:20 PM

The place in northport was the northport pipeline. It was a deck hockey/roller rink/batting cage. It burned down a few years ago.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:32 PM

I think this is going to be sponsored by Poland Springs.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:33 PM

Really, people are reminiscing about spots to see shows on LI without mentioning Hotel Leningrad/The Angle?

That was the spot for so many years for so many bands.

Also what was that place in Huntington around the corner from the strip club? I think it was on New York Ave?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:36 PM

Incendiary IS the best band currently out of NY (and that includes NYC too), but they do pump out of a lot of shit bands on LI. It is a tight-knit scene where everyone seems to know each other, but with that means that a lot of shitty bands are overstacked on bills because no one has the heart to turn any of them down. I enjoy Backtrack, too, but they are legit road dogs and work their asses off.

The amount of venues on LI conducive to hardcore has definitely been drastically reduced, but they still manage to book amazing shows.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:42 PM

Also, by the way, 4:42 here again, I think Kickstarter is dumb as shit. In no way is $300 for St. Vitus shows worth it. 60 bucks would get you into 5 shows there. The other shit added on that price level is pointless.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:44 PM

Pizzacore

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:48 PM

4:42 you don't really get the idea of fundraising, do you?

It's a perk donated by the club to see this happen. You're paying $300 to help the movie get made.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:50 PM

Gonna be a ton of babes in this doc!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 4:53 PM

$3000 bwhahahahaha

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:16 PM

The Roxy was the place in Huntington.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:24 PM

"My name is Chris and I grew up in Long Island, NY. My brother, Nick, and I have been going to punk/hardcore shows for the past 18 years."


hahah, 18 years. Hardcore shows are for high school. Who does that shit for 18 years? These dudes definitely know D.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:26 PM

Odd that somebody who grew up on Long Island would say they grew up 'in' Long Island - Long Islanders generally say 'on' Long Island.

Those kids might have gone to my high school :0

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:33 PM

7 Seconds at the Northport Skate PArk! I Was there! Fugazi at Pwac I was There! Bouncing Souls a million times at the Angle I was There! Clockwise! General George! Sheer Terror in Levittown.. Warped Weeble Wobbles in some kids living room. Good freakin times !

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:40 PM

LI scene was horrible!!, nothing good came from it, except GV

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:54 PM

silent majority is the only band that will ever matter

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:54 PM

5:40 are you trying to write the Weird Al version of "Losing My Edge?"

"Losing My (straight) Edge"

I was there when the Bouncing Souls covered Fear at Hotel Leningrad. I was there when Ray Capo quit Shelter. I was there when Artie Sheppard cut his hair. I was there, man.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 5:56 PM

Billy Joel would roll over in his grave to read these comments.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:00 PM

NO REDEEMING MUSICAL VALUE

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:04 PM

After Billy Joel left Attila he turned his back on hardcore.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:09 PM

Sleepasaurus!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:16 PM

I like how defensive 4:01 is about 3:59's comment

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:28 PM

3:29 thinks that interesting things actually sell and are generally a viable business model. How cute.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:29 PM

and 4:12's joke went completely over 4:20's head!

AMAZING.

D > DIIV

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:33 PM

PWAC!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 6:41 PM

4:01 is seriously butthurt.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 7:00 PM

What's up w/ fat guy wearing shorts in the winter?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 7:03 PM

Garden Variety had more talent then all the LIHC bands put together. No wonder they started on one of the best labels in NJ - Gern Blandsten. Also, Radio 4 was no slouch of a band, even though they tried to replicate the Chisel sound.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 8:54 PM

people from brooklyn hate long island, but brooklyn is on long island? so meta

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 8:57 PM

Skycamefalling at Ground Zero was special.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 9:20 PM

Even within the context of Gern Blanston, GV were always 2nd rate. That's what this scene is claiming? smh

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:18 PM

2nd rate??? Are you on crack son? Gv smoked most other bands on that label, you have got to be retarded.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:20 PM

Weren't Radio 4 a pioneer of shitty dance punk?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:34 PM

10:34

Yes. Saw them open for Gang of Four. Awful.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:40 PM

But who's repping the Hamptons ????

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:42 PM

Radio 4 were horrible - how GV turned into that band is ridiculous.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:42 PM

Blood Simple>vod

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 10:43 PM

There's also a campaign for a doc on Staten Island hardcore http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/staten-island-hardcore-a-history

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 11:50 PM

3:59 won.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 11:51 PM

White socks and shorts, always a cool look on portly middle aged white guys.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2013 11:55 PM

yeah 3:59 ftw yeah. call it off...

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 1:00 AM

Strong Island, represent, yo.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 1:58 AM

i recall being at a show going on at the right track inn in shitzville, long island....the promoter gave all of the $$ to the local band, leeway, and, i shit you not, actually turned his pockets inside out when asked for $$ by the 3 out of town bands that drove over 4 hours to play.

FUCK LONG ISLAND.

you gave the world joey buttafucco.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 2:21 AM

What about a doc on Rikers Island hardcore ?

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 4:05 AM

I cannot imagine a more banal existence than growing up on LI, being a member of the HC scene and actually being proud to remember the names of the cheesy ass venues. That is an 3 pitch strikeout looking.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 7:40 AM

My morning dump is more profound than LIHC.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 8:14 AM

Syria > Somalia > NJ > LI

Rather be from Damascus

Google it BV minions who don't know what Damascus is

Posted by D | September 12, 2013 8:57 AM

^ I call bullshit on the actual D knowing or even caring what Damascus is. Try again, Akbar.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:18 AM

NJ is a horrid place. LI is a horrid place. But Filthydelphia makes both of them look like the Garden Of Eden by comparison.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:19 AM

Lets not get racist folks. Once again drop those guitars and walk over to your local college admissions office and educate yourselves. A diploma is a lot more useful to this country than skinny jean, ray bans and an std.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:36 AM

Long Island should be carpet bombed and erased from the continental US. From the air it evens looks like a turd, which is a metaphor for what it is.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:41 AM

lol at these mook brothers spending 18 years in the LI hardcore scene and being proud of it. Too funny.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:49 AM

936 = Akbar

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 10:24 AM

10:24am is prob into heavy metal and wishes he graduated high school 15 years ago instead of being a bartender at the crocodile lounge

Posted by D | September 12, 2013 10:52 AM

^ LOL @ fake D, you are so funny.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 11:34 AM

Geez, a lot of hate for Long Island - I, for one, enjoyed growing up on Long Island.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 12:01 PM

9:49am
Hating Long Island, and acting like the kids are "mooks" because of an accent or liking HC? have you checked the five boroughs assholes? talk about accents and other stupidity, and last I checked NYCH was not the greatest thing either. There are good bands and terrible bands in every scene and all over the country. LI had garbage but then they also had fantastic bands. Lumping it all into one category shows how amazingly full of stupidity you must be.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 1:39 PM

^anyone who spends 18 years in any HC scene anywhere is a suspended adolescent MOOK.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 2:00 PM

HV/AC > NYCHC > xTAINTx

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 2:32 PM

wait people go to HC shows after they turn 21? hahahahah

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 2:45 PM

^ hey, listen. Some of us go into the priesthood, some become boy scout leaders, and some go to HC shows. Who are you to judge?

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 3:47 PM

^
Judge was not from Long Island.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 4:06 PM

Judge's drummer later played with Limp Bizkit. Limp fucking Bizkit. A lot of you knew this. Some of you think I'm full of shit, and then you'll google it and see that it's true. There's really no point to this rant, except to verify that everything in the world sucks. Thank you.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 4:22 PM

..fairly certain that 10:52 is the Real D'l.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 5:16 PM

i used to go to wetlands and tramps and coney island high back in the day and the LI bands sucked then and suck more now.

i do like garden variety though.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2013 9:51 PM

Born and raised on LI and proud of it, and my accent.
Long Island had the worst HC scene in terms of bands. They were mostly all beyond terrible. I will say that the scene was always large,like 150 kids at the Angle on Friday and maybe 60 or so at Bond Street the next day. Problem was it was a huge spoiled suburban scene blocked off by NYC and was only influenced by NYC and not the global HC community. Kids on LI during the 90's were more alterna rock and metal and less HarDCore punk and it shows in the music. Also why do we even have a LIHC doc, when we don't even have docs about actual important "hardcore" scenes that affected "hardcore", I'm talkin early 80s LA/DC, the midwest, ABC No RIo, Early 80's NYHC but somehow a LIHC documentary is needed.

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Posted by Anonymous | September 21, 2013 10:43 PM

Really great! So excited for it.

Posted by Sandra | October 4, 2013 1:12 PM

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