Posted in music on January 30, 2014

by Doug Moore

Greg Ginn (apologizing?) with Black Flag, 2013 (more by P Squared)
Black Flag

The Black Flag reunion saga grows more painful every time we return to it. First there was the "Black Flag" vs. "FLAG" spat, which culminated in Greg Ginn (of Black Flag, not FLAG, which is built around Keith Morris and Chuck Dukowski) inexplicably suing a number of his ex-bandmates, not all of whom were involved in the FLAG reunion. He totally explicably lost. Then there was What The..., a reunion album that lived up to its name both musically and aesthetically. Then Black Flag manager/pro skater Mike Vallely fired BF vocalist Ron Reyes onstage in mid-gig, drawing an extensive public response from Reyes. So yeah, Black Flag 2013 was a pretty bleak entity.

This year has been no kinder so far. Rolling Stone ran a feature on the band today that begins with the following sentence: "Black Flag are sorry." Guys, few things are less punk rock than publicly apologizing for foolish behavior. Most of the feature actually focuses on Vallely, who's become Black Flag's new vocalist (as Reyes speculated that he would). Vallely told RS that Black Flag "fell short in 2013 because of a difference in the philosophies of Ron and Greg - it just led to dysfunction" but effectively goes on to blame Reyes's intransigence for said issues. He also mentions that they're working on new material (including "a lot of songs like 'TV Party' and 'Six Pack' that are fun, fun songs") and booking another tour, in the interest of proving that Black Flag 2014 won't be the deeply humiliating train wreck we all expect.

You can read the whole feature here. Stay tuned for more (probably cringe-inducing) news from the Black Flag camp.

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Comments (29)

Fuck off, Ginn. We lost interest.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 5:31 PM

STOP. JUST STOP. And for the record, Flag live >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black Flag live

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 5:32 PM

Greg Ginn needs a swift kick in the dick.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 5:35 PM

why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?why?

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 5:42 PM

Seriously, please just fucking STOP! This is not punk in any form whatsoever. This is bullshit and the sloppiest, most pathetic attempt at money-grab I've yet to see.

Real Black Flag fans (and fans of music in general) should be disgusted and not contribute a dime to this nonsense. Hang it the fuck up and stop the disrespect toward yourselves, your fans and your previous legacy!

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 6:00 PM

Ginn is still a great guitar player. Lots of good riffs on the last album. Still doesn't make up for him being a dick.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 6:02 PM

Mike Vallely needs to go back in time and NOT get those tattoos.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 6:04 PM

Greg Ginn looks like an old lesbian. He should be selling turquoise jewelry in a moo moo.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 6:48 PM

I saw Black Flag in 1984. Now I live in my parents basement.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 7:33 PM

Is D gonna show up soon and weigh in, or is he still working overtime at Trader Joe's?

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 7:40 PM

Greg Ginn is flourishing in irrelevancy

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 7:48 PM

is greg doing the thriller dance?

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 8:01 PM

It looks like Greg is practicing his Count Orlock look.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 8:20 PM

6:04 Mike Vallely's parents need to go back in time and get an abortion.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 9:06 PM

So....this is gonna make everything better?
#WTF2014howmanyflagsaretheregonnabe?

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 9:40 PM

third-rate skater joins third-rate offspring of fossilized band? eureka!

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 9:48 PM

Mike vallaleh

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 9:53 PM

Vallely rips. I'm kinda bummed on this.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 10:43 PM

LA. Just the worst.

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 10:45 PM

I like to consider the possible reasons why he chose that stage name. Hint: reverse the order of the letters in the name, "Greg Ginn". What does that imply?

Posted by Anonymous | January 30, 2014 11:40 PM

If each former member of Black Flag creates a new "Flag" and goes on tour........ Will anyone show up?
This is total bullshit and as non punk as you can get. I saw Black Flag at the Ritz in NYC in '82 and I won't tarnish that memory by seeing a bunch of money hungry dicks who forgot what it was all about in the first place.
I would have paid to see a Black Flag tour that had most if not all of the former members together (yes, singers too) showing what good punk rock music is.
Suing each other, creating fragmented versions of a great band is bullshit.
A big Fuck you to all "Flags".
NO ONE CARES.

Posted by YouSirAreNoPunk | January 31, 2014 12:05 AM

who let the old man out of his half way house SRO

Posted by punk condo tower | January 31, 2014 12:09 AM

greg ginn and henry rollins make a great lesbian couple

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 1:04 AM

n n i g g e r g

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 2:36 AM

^super-edgy, bro.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 8:05 AM

Slip It Out.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 9:15 AM

Sorry Gramps, your ship has sailed a long time ago.

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 9:43 AM

Give UP

Posted by Anonymous | January 31, 2014 6:18 PM

Hey, he's an awesome guitarist

Posted by Caudle | February 17, 2014 3:52 AM

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