Posted in music on March 7, 2014

Thurston Moore at FFF Fest 2013 (more by Tim Griffin)
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Thurston Moore recently talked to The Fly about his divorce with Kim Gordon and his new relationship with Eva Prinz, not long after Kim Gordon talked to Elle about the divorce. Following The Fly interview, feminist website Jezebel posted an article about it, headlined "Thurston Moore Confirms He Is A Dick."

Pitchfork now points out that Thurston has responded to Jezebel with a Facebook post where he calls the website "gender fascism":

Jezebel is gender fascism. By not having any real critical facility to understand, in their case, men in relationship to women (presumably them) they opt to promote hate by imperialist blather. By couching it in feminism is a distinct lack of class, but i'm sure they're having a bit of online fun and when they grow up maybe they'll glean the complexities of real life and love.
If you missed them the first time, you can read Thurston's interview here and Kim's interview here.

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Comments (131)

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Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:00 AM

I reckon the Kinja commenters are having a field day calling him "epic fedora redditor Thurston Moore" while pointing out how uniquely aggrieved they are as a Woman Of Color.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:02 AM

Before anyone says anything, Thurston sort of has a point. If it had been revealed that Kim was cheating on Thurston, would they have reported on any of this?

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:04 AM

Old guys cheating on their wives with younger women—destroying relationships since the dawn of time. Yawwwwnnnn . . .

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:05 AM

Thurston was in the wrong, yes, but Jezebel is the absolute worst. Joke of a website.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:07 AM

Women shouldn't be allowed on computers.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:07 AM

This is borderline men's rights bullshit- fedora dudes have a new king

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:08 AM

As a Men's Rights Activist, I

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:08 AM

I like how Moore reacts like this is some sort of revelation. Wait, Jezebel is just another pile of Gawker Media garbage?? Shocking.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:12 AM

"By not having any real critical facility to understand, in their case, men in relationship to women (presumably them) they opt to promote hate by imperialist blather."

Did Thurston really just say that since none of them have boyfriends that none of them get to comment on his having cheated on his wife and left her?

Normally I would totally dismiss these radical femidiots as the double standard fools they are, but in this case I have to agree with them.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:14 AM

Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:17 AM

Countdown to cute snarky Jezebel headline featuring "mansplain" in 3...2...

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:19 AM

Jezebel, The Hairpin and XO Jane are the equivalent of perpetual facepalms for all but those who have BAs in womyn's studies or feminist theory and/or have had so much talk therapy that discussion = MEMEMEMEME for, like 20 minutes. In other words, the lead in Girls, another horrific shitshow embarrassing the female race and these times in general. Not really helping the cause, which is a damn shame.

And on another note, since when was his cheating any of our business anyway, amirite (not that it makes it OK, but seriously). That guy is the last person whose sex life I want to be thinking about.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:19 AM

Thurston's relationship is more interesting than a Phish show.

Surprised, no.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:22 AM

Jezebel is the worst site on the internet. Except for Buzzfeed.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:22 AM

BV

The new music celebrity gossip site.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:25 AM

what he's basically saying is jezebel is run by and read by fatties who can never get close enough to men to understand how and why they do what they do.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:26 AM

@11:26 Fatties give good head.....

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:28 AM

11:22 you're a dick, Phish rule

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:33 AM

what he's saying is the writers for these sites read one interview with Kim and act like they understand the full scope of a 20+ year relationship when in reality they don't know anything about anything. they write pandering hate to get clicks. this is undeniably true.

I mean, thurston may in fact be a dick but we don't really know anything about their life or marriage. jezebel pretends they do to feel a little closer to celebrity, but in reality they are full of shit.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:38 AM

HAHA Dude Best Coast put on a more interesting show than Phish and Best Coast sucks dick.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:40 AM

11:40 = biggest dick in the universe, pretty much ever

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:54 AM

Thurzton is currently dating the drummer from Phish, Fish.

Posted by Gregg Allman's orthodonist(!) | March 7, 2014 11:55 AM

11:40 is the guy who had a band in high school that played his original "songs", could never gather the patience to learn Phish songs, and when another band that could play Phish songs came along he lost the girl he was boning to that band's guitar player. Everyone loves Phish but you bro, so you need to just relax a bit.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:56 AM

Thurston Moore is a dick. Kim Gordon may have been the least talented person in SY, but that does not change the fact that he is a dick.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:57 AM

11:19 cotd.

seriously. music, we can bitch about back and forth. personal relationships, leave 'em personal. and it sucks for us because it helped break up one of the most interesting bands of the last fifty years and one of the most influential of alternative acts, but such is life.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:05 PM

Thurston is a dick tho. FACT.
Not as big of a dick than Lee Ranaldo, but still...

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:06 PM

this is all mad uncalled for just make sonic youth again

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:11 PM

I don't know, when I gave em the double handy they were both equally big.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:11 PM

@11;56

If you came to Brooklyn Vegan expecting people to like Phish you've completely lost your mind.

Find a comment board with people from Burlington, VT, Ridgewood, NJ, ETC...

Nobody gives a shit about your jam band outside of your core group of friends.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:18 PM

I do like the idea that calling someone a dick is imperialist blather, though.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:25 PM

"Nobody gives a shit about your jam band outside of your core group of friends."

Except, you know, enough people to fill MSG 4 nights in a row every year.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:29 PM

^So does Bieber

What are you trying to say? You just coming to the revelation that a lot of people have bad taste?

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:33 PM

how long is Thurston's dick?

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:34 PM

Let's also remember, 12:29, that many of those people are the same people going every night.

You know not just idiots, but incredible idiots

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:35 PM

2009 sy > any phish

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:38 PM

Somehow this turned into an argument about Phish.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:39 PM

i like to suck dicks. yyyyyuuum

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:44 PM

12:34, about the size of a Yves veggie dog dipped in hummus.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:47 PM

Just as I always thought - one big loud Phish hater, and the universe of people that look uncomfortably at each other and turn away whenever he starts on one of his soliloquies.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:48 PM

Just wait until the alt-diarrhea power couple of Wavves bro and Best Coast dudette call it quits...

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:53 PM

Yeah how nice of Phish to charge $75-200 for that wonderful 4-night run.

What a joke.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:54 PM

Kim Gordon is looka ruff brah!

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:56 PM

Phish have literally never charged $200, you moron.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:58 PM

Thurston IS a dick though.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 12:58 PM

@12:58

I'm sorry it peaked at $150. lolz

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:04 PM

Dude discounts Phish selling out multiple nights at the Garden, and then bitches about the ticket price in spite of purportedly not caring for them.

It's like a bad vaudeville joke

just smh

Wait - 12:54 is Vaudeville Vicky

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:17 PM

Every Phish show in 2013 was at most $65, with the exception of NYE which was $75. If you're going to troll, at least do it accurately.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:21 PM

I'm not discounting Phish for the tickets. I'm laughing that you bearded,tie-dye hat wearing twats would pay that much.

$150 for Phish one night.

$200 for early-bird Firefly ticks
$234 for Bonnaroo

Yerp, yerp no thanks

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:25 PM

^ trolling police

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:28 PM

LOL @ Vaudeville Vicky (1:25)

Don't let facts get in the way of a bad troll

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:34 PM

This is literally what Phish sounds like unless you're on molly or shrooms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:37 PM

>>Kim Gordon is looka ruff brah!

many 61 year olds do

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:48 PM

Yes 12:48, it is only one person on here hating Phish.

Does that make you feel better in that delusional mind of yours?

SMH at the idiot.

(pssst, come here loser I wanna tell you a secret, Phish has lots of people who think they suck)

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:52 PM

LOL @ 1:37

don't forget Radiohead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuUfSOKyhWQ
tube.com/watch?v=nDUHB_RbtzY

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:54 PM

same delusional hater

Vaudeville Vicky

what a bitch!

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:55 PM

kim Gordon > mike gordon

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 1:55 PM

***TRUTH***
Kim played the tits and ass card her entire life, and made a good career out of it. Now she looks like an old witch and is surprised when she is abandoned for a young beauty-- the very image that she forced upon girls years ago. Reap what you sew!

Posted by Murston Thor | March 7, 2014 2:00 PM

i want every thread on this site to devolve into an argument about Phish. lol

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:08 PM

Hahahaha, now that is taking the piss. Some Phish fan on here shouting on about how any negative comments about that shit band are the work of only one person and then he calls them a delusional bitch.


That provides laughs for days

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:11 PM

I feel sorry for people that go to sleep with the impression that Phish is anything but a carnival of flunkies.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:14 PM

Lee > Trey

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:23 PM

Respect to Phish, they filled up MSG for 4 nights but 80% of tickets were Groupon last minute deals.

5% Living Social

#numbersdontlie

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:29 PM

hipster > wook

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:37 PM

Nuff respect, Phish.

mg>kg

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:38 PM

Indica> sativa

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:44 PM

2:08pm, in this case, the thread has *evolved*.

Who cares if Thurston can't deal called being a dick particularly when he's being one. I betcha it's because Coco isn't around to hear him cry.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 2:47 PM

Thurston Moore is a respectable, independent artist with a track record that outweighs and outshines most modern rock bandleaders today, even if the majority of his recent work with Sonic Youth involves the same, tired formula. By the way, I saw Phish in Dallas in 1994 with 80 other people at the Bomb Factory, and none of you were there.
In the end, you could just put on some John Coltrane or Eric Dolphy and throw the rest of your records and CDs away. But jazz leaves just as much of a bad taste as Phish in all of your misinformed and inexperienced mouths anyway, so maybe you should just stick to what Pitchfork and the blogs tell you is cool. Meanwhile, I'll be way ahead of your uneducated asses.

Posted by Ivan Cook | March 7, 2014 2:53 PM

LOL at the jerkoff who thinks there is one Phish fan on this thread. Dude, you make my hair hurt I'm laughing so hard at your idiocy. Take another bong hit dude, you are being trolled from at least 3 angles.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:07 PM

^ if you can remember it, you were not actually there.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:08 PM

^ what the fuck does that even mean?

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:30 PM

Phish is basically Gathering of the Juggalos for people from Ridgewood NJ, Kinnelon NJ, Burlington VT

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:31 PM

^ and such expensive tickets too! the nerve!

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:36 PM

Mike Gordon did the nasty with 3:31's mom, and he's had a hard on against Phish ever since

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:37 PM

Mike Gordon phishes for children.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:38 PM

@2:53 WHAT are you babbling about.

Oh my lord. Make it end.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:45 PM

There are more than one phish haters commenting here as there are more than on Phish fans doing the same thing.

Bottom line is I don't care if there are 3 Phish fans commenting here or 10. No matter how many of you there are, you are all a bunch of idiots with terrible taste in music.

You listen to Phish so in the end, the last bit of trolling is on you, you sad fuckers.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:46 PM

12:06 ... so what gives on the Lee hate? I'm curious as to why you said that. I've run into Lee several times on the streets of NYC, and he's never been anything but super nice. He's also always been generous when supporting local radio and playing with local musicians in other cities.

So what's up with your comment?

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 3:47 PM

Kinda shitty, not to mention counterproductive to their cause, to refer to her as a "groupie".

Posted by Andrew | March 7, 2014 3:50 PM

You know how Neko Case smells really, really bad?

Kim Gordon smells like flowers, vanilla and new baby.


Just fucking with you. She smells like grandma farts.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 4:03 PM

how can you guys hate phish?? they are talented, nice, they do their own thing. leave them alone. no one asked BV to post about them.. at least they can play their instruments!!! unlike boop boop The Field or whatever cut and paste laptop flavor of the day band!!! PHISH 4 LYFE

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 4:03 PM

Jezebel/Gawker media is the worst. They're rolling back feminism into the mold of anti-sex scolds using the language of easy snark, celebrity schadenfreude and click bait. Terrible shit.

Phish are also terrible. And their fans are embarrassing. 100% agree their fans are northeast preppy versions of juggalos. But it's kinda great this thread has turned into an argument about Phish.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 4:06 PM

Jezebel is is the Phish of websites.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 5:47 PM

Newark is the new Phish.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 7:04 PM

there is no argument about phish. dumb people from the suburbs with no taste eat it up. some of them like radiohead, too. but mostly they go see phish four nights in a row, eat a bunch of molly, and think it's teh awesomest thing ever and tell all their non-phish friends how cool and awesome it was and how they'll go back for four nights again next year and you should totally come. they can really play their instruments, man!

i dunno, i stopped arguing with them in high school. same shit as people who like whatever garbage music people for people who don't really like music. waste of time and energy. they don't like real music, never will. right over their heads.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 7:34 PM

The more you hate on Phish, the more bitter, out of touch and illegitimate you are made. So keep it up, you precious bunny - you're just blowing your own case.

It is funny, just how uninformed and factually wrong these Phish haters are.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 7:51 PM

Honestly arguing with a Phish fan about how shitty they are is like going onto the short bus, going down the aisle, and thumping kids in the back of the head.

There's bigger fish to fry.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 7:56 PM

I agree, arguing with a Phish hater is like arguing with a rock, except the rock is more intelligent and convincing

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:07 PM

I'm pretty sure 7:56 has gotten one of those STD brain infections from Glasslands Gay Bathhouse, she seems incoherent and rambling. Poor thing.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:11 PM

It makes sense, to love cock and hate Phish

Me, I'll stick with Phish, leave the dick eating to 7:34 and his cockdrunk cohort

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:15 PM

Guys who like Phish have small dicks.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:48 PM

Guys who hate Phish eat a lotta dick and still want more

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:50 PM

Phish Hater is the new Sausage Lover

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 8:52 PM

Lee Ranaldo isn't a dick, he's just OLD. He's the oldest man who ever lived.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 9:22 PM

guys, keep arguing about phish. i'm about to cum.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 10:05 PM

Guys who hate Phish eat so much pussy they're faces look like glazed donuts.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 10:22 PM

Thurston is a former #1 city boy but the city is a fickle mistress.

Subway couples are really cute.

Have you ever wanted to know who the best pregnant subway rider is? Well, at CityFest 2014 you'll find out.

Posted by Mr. FoootFetish | March 7, 2014 11:07 PM

10:22 you might want to wipe the chum off your mouth before you start telling stories, I mean anyone can see you gurgling down that sausage bra

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:14 PM

chum = cum

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:16 PM

Phish fans get serious tail. Real girls love Phish, and don't loose their air when you jab them with a pin.

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:22 PM

^If by serious tail you mean ugly, fat or smelly chicks then yes you are correct

Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2014 11:53 PM

Great! My own hipster TMZ.

Posted by Miguel | March 8, 2014 12:11 AM

The overwhelming unimportance of this leaves me speechless.

Posted by John | March 8, 2014 6:57 AM

ah, Phish haters ... like freakishly overgrown children they just refuse to change and adapt to an evolving world around them

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 7:53 AM

It's funny that Phish fans are in completely denial about how they've wasted their lives worshipping at the alter of vapid frat boy rock, so they have to resort to homophobia.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 8:05 AM

the hell's angels nyc kicked mike Gordon in the balls for molesting one of their 10 year old daughters and now he sings an octave higher

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 8:39 AM

'Hey Kool Thing. Are you gonna liberate us girls from the male, white, corporate oppression?'

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 11:48 AM

I thought Thurston Moore is a woman.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 12:02 PM

I thought he was a rugby player in New Zealand.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 12:09 PM

Kim has looked 61 since she was 31, cant blame Thurston.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 12:50 PM

LOL, 113 comments (and counting!) on a Thurston Moore thread and 75% of them are about Phish

Get outta the way if ya can't lend a hand 'cause the times they are a-changin'

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 2:58 PM

People involved with Jezebel are best to be ignored. Worst type of women ever. It's false victim complex combined with a lack of self-reflection.

Posted by Mark lion | March 8, 2014 6:07 PM

Who is Kim banging?

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 6:21 PM

Phish is the Brooklyn Vegan of jam bands.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 6:55 PM

but steve shelley. what say he?

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 7:05 PM

Sonic Dick

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 7:50 PM

Chelsea Dick Moving

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 7:51 PM

Both he and Jezebel suck.

Posted by Anonymous | March 8, 2014 11:10 PM

Bethel Waves > Wavves

Posted by Anonymous | March 9, 2014 1:02 AM

Grimes > Thurston Moore

Posted by Anonymous | March 9, 2014 1:04 AM

phish sucks man

Posted by Anonymous | March 9, 2014 1:58 AM

I thought Brooklyn Vegan was a publication dedicated to informing people about music. If i want bullshit about some public figures love life Ill watch the evening news or read a tabloid. Lame as fuck

Posted by anon | March 9, 2014 2:10 AM

(continued) Not that there's anything wrong with gossip. Since I lost my job at the corn processing plant, I watch a lot of The View, so I'm all set on my non music news. I just New a place to find out when Grimes or tUnE-yArDs are coming to Des Moines. I don't even know who this Thurston person is.

Posted by ano | March 9, 2014 10:08 AM

hard to believe that's just one guitar and drums, epic as fuck

Posted by Weimer | March 10, 2014 6:12 AM

I'd rather get my dick sucked by a beaver than have to listen to one second of Phish.

Posted by Anonymous | March 10, 2014 12:24 PM

^you wood? Damn! you're buck in crazy

Posted by Anonymous | March 10, 2014 12:54 PM

this is the best commentary i've seen about the demise of sonic youth

Posted by Anonymous | March 10, 2014 6:27 PM

while a final album of lots of what made them great and a victory lap tour would have provided some Sonic Closure, truth is they are ending it at the right time, as good as they ever were, but perhaps no longer able to move forward creatively. 30 years is as solid as can be. REM did same, but even their music had dropped in quality by the turn of the century. The Eternal was as good as any typically great SY album could be (meaning, the ones that aren't DN or Sis.)

Posted by Anonymous | March 11, 2014 2:00 PM

That sold out super fast, tanks

Posted by buffet em niterói | April 3, 2014 7:18 PM

Thirsty Whoore

Posted by Anonymous | April 24, 2014 2:48 PM

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