Posted in music on May 8, 2014

Morrissey up close with a fan at San Jose last night (via @that fan's instagram)
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Morrissey's tour kicked off last night (5/7) in San Jose, CA. If you've ever been to a Morrissey concert, you know it is a never-ending stream of fans trying to rush the stage, hug him, rip off his shirt, whatever contact they can make. Unfortunately last night, the stage rush got out of control and the show was cut just a little short, notes Stereogum. TMZ, who has video of the incident says Moz was "attacked by a fan" and "knocked to the ground" though the footage doesn't really seem to bare that out. Nonetheless, stage security did seem to have a little more trouble keeping fans offstage than usual. You can watch the video below.

Before the violent hugging happened, Morrissey did play a few new songs that will be on his new album, Word Peace is None of Your Business, including the live debut of the title track, "The Bullfighter Dies," and "Earth is the Loneliest Planet." Setlist and video of those three new songs plus video of the stage rushing incident, below.

Meanwhile, tonight's show (5/8) at Santa Ana's The Observatory has its own problems, as the venue's smaller room, The Constellation Room, is supposed to host We Are Scientists and PAWS. But, according to PAWS, Morrissey doesn't want their show to happen and refuses to play until that show is canceled. From PAWS' Facebook:

Morrissey is currently trying to have our slot at tonights show in Santa Ana, California cancelled because he is playing in another room in the same venue and wishes for their to be no other artists performing in his vicinity.

This is an unbelievable act of complete and utter selfishness that should not be tolerated. This rich, has-been, ego maniac acting like a baby throwing toys from a pram. To satisfy his little power hungry brain. A complete disregard for others and a baffling lack of support/respect for young, hard working musicians.

People like this, with attitudes like this displays a classic example of why the music industry is still awash with disgusting garbage that should by now have been snuffed out. Pedestals, self righteous entitlement, disrespect and "competition". Geez. It's not like we've come all the way from Scotland to play for nothin'...

I'm just going to leave this photo and sentiment with you and we'll report back with developments. We won't go out without a fight!

What do you all think?

We say let 'em play, Morrissey!

UPDATE: Both shows are happening, through compromise, says We Are Scientists via Twitter:

ANTA ANA! So everyone can play a full set, tonight's show will start after Moz's bedtime:

9 doors
10 @wehavepaws
11 us

#everybodywins

Morrissey's tour hits NYC at Barclays Center on June 21 with Sir Cliff Richard and Kristeen Young (still tickets available).

PAWS play Shea Stadium in Brooklyn later this month when the WaS tour is finished.

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Morrissey stage invasion in San Jose

World Peace is None of Your Business

The Bullfighter Dies

Earth is the Loneliest Planet of All

SETLIST: Morrissey, San Jose 5/7/2014
Hand in Glove
That's How People Grow Up
Ganglord
Speedway
I Have Forgiven Jesus
World Peace Is None Of Your Business (Live debut)
I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris
Yes, I Am Blind
The Bullfighter Dies (Live debut)
Life Is a Pigsty
Everyday Is Like Sunday
Earth Is The Loneliest Planet (Live debut)
Trouble Loves Me
Meat Is Murder
First of the Gang to Die
The Youngest Was the Most Loved
I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday
The National Front Disco

Encore:
Asleep
One Day Goodbye Will Be Farewell

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Comments (48)

This motherfucker is refusing to play tonight unless we are scientists drop dead.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 6:44 PM

dumb tradition

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 6:59 PM

fuck paws, go moz

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 7:04 PM

They are selling baco wrapped hotdogs outside the venue (seriously) get me Moz!

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 7:11 PM

Why is this snarf of a human being still relevant? Like Bruce, Prince and Madonna you haven't wrote a single great song in 20+ years. #fuckthefuckoff

Posted by who fucking cares | May 8, 2014 7:17 PM

I hope we are scientists say fuck you to morrissey and play anyway

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 7:21 PM

7:17, you were so close. There needs to be a comma after Madonna. Also, you should have used "written" and not "wrote". In using "wrote", you're putting it in an active form, and that's not correct for that particular sentence. You want the passive, which would be "written".

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 7:35 PM

7:17 - Leave Prince the fuck out of it.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 7:41 PM

7:35, Your life must have very little meaning if you feel the need to spend an ounce of effort correcting grammar and punctuation on a blog's comment thread? Guess you had nothing else to add to the conversation?? Anyway, I hope you feel satisfied and walk away with a sense of accomplishment on time well spent.

Now my comment to 7:17: True, they haven't written a hit in a while, but Moz and everyone you listed are still quite relevant. Maybe they're not relevant to you, but they have generations of fans around the world numbering in the millions.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 8:06 PM

7:17 : have you even lived 25 years? have any hit songs/records under your belt? have you changed people's lives with your ideas? i bet you haven't changed your socks this week. you fuck the fuck off. and take your hashtags with you, #fuckface. moz alone is far from being past his performing prime, is highly aware of his insignificance and guilt as a human living in the 21st century, AND has been sidelined by health issues. at least he's trying. shove a few bacon wrappef hot dogs up your ignorant ass, sit, and spin. prince? madonna? born stars. i feel sorry for your mother.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 8:08 PM

Morrissey is the definition of a little bitch. I never liked his cartoonish voice and especially can't stand all the bullshit he spews. Self righteous asshole.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 8:11 PM

Morrisey in that picture is like: "Um, excuse me you ugly fat pig, get away from me, you fookin' swine!"

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 8:27 PM

Moz played Webster with other bands, I doubt that's what it's actually about

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 8:44 PM

lol at all the whores in mediocre bands defending Morrissey like he cares about you or your opinion.

Posted by Glossyloca | May 8, 2014 8:45 PM

Love the BV grammar police - kick ass!

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 9:05 PM

The only thing shorter than a Morrissey show is cunch (cute brunch) in the big city on Mother's Day.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 9:36 PM

PAWS = never was

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 9:49 PM

Hello there, 8:06.

So ... you wrote this >>

7:35, Your life must have very little meaning if you feel the need to spend an ounce of effort correcting grammar and punctuation on a blog's comment thread? Guess you had nothing else to add to the conversation?? Anyway, I hope you feel satisfied and walk away with a sense of accomplishment on time well spent.


I'm confused by your first sentence. It seems like your making statement. Actually, I'm certain you are. Why did you end it with a question mark? Yes, I am walking way now with a great sense of accomplishment. I like assisting people with proper grammar. It's a skill they'll undoubtedly need in the real world. What have you contributed outside of such a negative attitude? Oh, and your last sentence has "on" time well spent, and I think you might find "over", in that context, is a much nicer fit.

Sweet dreams, love.

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 10:04 PM

PUSSY FIGHT!

Posted by Anonymous | May 8, 2014 10:09 PM

Not defending Morrissey, but since I don't know this venue, I do have questions. Does sound have the tendency to bleed fro one room to another in the venue? I f so, I am on his side.
I went to a show at Webster Hall, and during a pretty quiet acousitc number the bass from the shitty club room downstairs was ruining the fucking concert I paid good money for.

Posted by The Mighty KC | May 8, 2014 10:18 PM

Morrissey is a self-entitled clown that is coninually enabled to act like a douchebag by his stupid ass fawning fans. He is despicable.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:29 AM

HILARIOUS!

I hope Johnny Marr guests on a Scientists song, soon!


And people wonder why a Smiths reunion continues to not happen!

Who even wants to deal with this guy???

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:32 AM

Hey PAWS, how about mastering the english language first?
Their, there... Dumb millenials.

Posted by ME | May 9, 2014 12:50 AM

I love how in that video the house dj cuts to a track of a fat lady singing.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:17 AM

Actually, 10:04 could not grammar his way out of a wet paper bag. Dildo.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:06 AM

PAWS should fuck off. Their music is shit, they look like assholes.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 3:32 AM

Moz has actually become the Queen Mum - hasn't done anything noteworthy in years, and gets fawning twat press every time she pops her head out of her hole

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 5:05 AM

wow - neither bv or paws knows grammar/spelling. it's "seem to BEAR that out" BV and it's "wishes for THERE to be" paws.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 7:57 AM

first off, we are scientists are pure GARBAGE. zero talent, zero creativity.

and paws? neever heard 'em but they obviously suck the BIG one?

slamming morrissey? it's beyond laughable. NOBODY on this planet will remember paws in a few years. but morrissey is eternal.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:00 AM

i love johnny marr to death but he'd drop EVERYTHING he was doing to reunite with morrissey in a heartbeat.

but what makes the smiths and morrissey special is that they will NEVER reunite.

and good on them! if you didn;t see 'em back in the 80's, well YOU LOSE.

i feel most sorry for the morrissey bashers here who will never experience anything musically like the smiths in their lifetime.

paws, we are scientists, clap your hands, future islands, we are animals, collectively, bears, bear paws, bear hands - all CRAP!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:25 AM

Cunch? Really?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:36 AM

Morrissey is the definition of "fussy."

Does he deserve and honorary CityBoy title?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:47 AM

the white male frustration on this site is infinite. it will never run out.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:02 AM

Johnny Marr and Morrissey were The Smiths - either one without the other is a bit hollow

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:25 AM

Below, you can read PAWS’ posting in its entirety.

OK…

So, in light of unexpected media attention, please allow us to explain what happened to us earlier today. It might be a little long, but we appreciate your patience as we feel it needs to be said.

Early this afternoon (Thursday May 8th) as we were travelling from San Francisco to Santa Ana to play a show tonight at Constellation Rooms with We Are Scientists, we received a call from the promoter/venue telling us that Morrissey, who was also due to play a show tonight in the larger room at the venue, had requested that no live music be heard during his set. SO, in order to adhere to curfews, this would mean that we couldn’t play our opening slot as it would clash with Morrissey’s and We Are Scientists’ headline show would be cut short and heavily delayed (until after Morrissey’s show). We were then informed that in respect of this cancellation, we had been offered to be paid double our guarantee for our troubles as per a clause in the contract for the show, but it was also asserted that we didn’t really have a choice in the matter; for example, we didn’t really get any sort of option to try and make the show work, it was just very cut and dry. So in short, we were essentially getting paid not to play.
We were instantly very confused. Many, if not all, bands we have met, played with or seen, have most certainly played a show in a venue with two rooms without incident, much less threat of cancellation. The idea that sound would bleed.. well it’s always seemed apparent that this is a risk if you plan to run/play a venue of this type, but there are usually measures in place to prevent there being any disturbance to either show. We’ve played shows like this quite a few times, so it seemed excessive. We felt almost like we were being bribed – not by the promoter it should be said, but by the show’s production – and for a reason that seemed a little overdramatic.

Although all bands in our situation could very much do with the extra money, it didn’t sit right with us that we were essentially, very much literally, being silenced; being bought out, and for reasons that, when explained to us as above, not only seemed trivial but seemed to fit the unfortunate egotistical stereotypes that Morrissey has come to embody in recent years, not least as we had been informed that he has already been noted for cancelling several shows .
Now, far from wishing to start a cheap fight, we felt outraged, naturally. We felt frustrated, angry, undermined and totally helpless as, to our knowledge, a reason outwith our control was threatening to ruin a (sold-out) show we were really excited about and we didn’t even have a choice. We felt that we would’ve felt dirty taking the money. It didn’t feel right to just be bought out; we would like to think that what we do is worth more that a quick bit of cash, so we decided to fight it. We naturally felt like we wanted to scream it out loud, we felt like it was complete bullshit, and that no one, regardless of their standing as a performer, and associated crew, should be allowed to dictate what goes on with such lack of disregard to the logistics, not to mention the feelings of other people. What’s more, there seemed to be a real blunder in terms of ‘chain of command’ as our slot was officially pulled before we knew about it, before We Are Scientists knew about it, before our booking agents knew. What we ended up getting told seemed more like cold hard fact – you’re not doing it, end of story. This made us even more angry, as it felt very disrespectful.

After sitting on it for a while, we decided to relay the information we’d been given, which we did, as fact, to our fans, through our channels. Whatever else was said in that post was purely driven by the emotional intensity of the situation, but to be fair, at the time, we said what we felt like we wanted to say based on what we got told, which we think is fair enough; although in hindsight, perhaps that may have been misconstrued as some sort of ‘attack’; which it wasn’t, we were just pissed off.

And from here, shit gets fucking crazy.

The post went crazy. We received several calls from lots of different people, perhaps the most important being the promoter for Morrissey’s show. He informed us that – in light of the exponentially-increasing web traffic, there was a possibility that this could shine badly on the entire operation and that if anyone from the Morrissey camp was to see this, there was a very high chance that he could threaten to cancel. This was insane to us. We already weren’t playing, and then there was even the slight possibility that what we wrote could still impact on his show?? That’s insane. We just said what we got told – and to be completely 100% honest, we were only intending to spread the word to ‘our’ fans and friends, because we thought they were the only ones watching. Oh how wrong we were…

The promoter, genuinely upset, told us that there had already been a sizeable six figure sum deposited to Morrissey and if he cancels the show, that will be completely gone and that would be disastrous for the venue, which we were told could potentially go under. This guy was terrified and genuinely appealed, in light of him potentially ‘losing everything’, that we try to contain the situation, which had escalated as the post went viral. In respect of his genuine testimony and in fear that our action would result not just in the cancellation of the show but in the serious financial chaos for the venue and all involved, we felt it was only right to remove the post. At least until the show was over when we could clarify the situation properly.

After hours of calls back and forth in a McDonalds car park at a service station – free wifi – we realised that news sites had picked up on the story and the whole thing went apeshit. Eventually, after much talk, and much back and forth, a few options were brought to our attention and weirdly, after it seeming like a cut and shut case, we eventually, somehow managed to negotiate a slot immediately following Morrissey’s set. This was insane, we thought we were fucked, and then after all that it was just sorted. Whether the Morrissey camp realised it was bullshit, or it was the strength of the attention this whole damn thing was getting, who knows, but eventually it seemed like things might be straightened out. Relieved, we posted that the show was back on.
After this, as more sites started to pick up on it, we got more frantic calls from the promoter for the Morrissey show, telling us that his representatives had flipped and insisted the whole thing was not the actions of Morrissey himself, but that of his own security, and that we ‘need to apologise’ and set this straight. We felt that, regardless of who had actually said this, this was still done by someone in the Morrissey camp, on behalf of the man himself – who, notoriously organised and fully in control, would surely not be entirely unaware of – shedding light on an extremely poor and disrespectful attitude. The fact that this would not only need to be considered by anyone but in fact enforced, suggests a mentality surrounding performance and production that is selfish and unreasonable. To make sure that your show is not impeded by sound pollution IS reasonable, but it’s a purpose-built venue that books double shows all the time, has measures in place to stop such a thing, and to just call the show/slot off, HOURS BEFORE THE GIG, with disregard to the smaller show, felt very petty and unnecessary. Not only that but the fact that there was even the slightest notion that he would actually cancel his OWN show in light of this seemed utterly ridiculous to us. Considering how much this was going to impact on the promoter’s personal financial situation, let alone the venue, allegedly to the point of bankruptcy, we felt this was absurd.
As we hightailed it to Santa Ana, running late now after all this bullshit, we were genuinely concerned for the welfare of the promoter and everyone at the venue. We felt personally insulted and beaten down by bullshit beyond our control, so we stood up for ourselves. We NEVER wanted to cause anyone any trouble, so we were genuinely worried about Morrissey cancelling the show. Thankfully, moments before we arrived, we were informed that the show was most certainly on and that all was well.

However, after we got here, ten minutes before we were about to go onstage, with the show seemingly in full swing and in good health, Phillip and Josh were confronted by Morrissey’s tour manager in our own dressing room. After thinking that everything was FINALLY sorted, this man started screaming at them both, practically squaring up to them and trying his hardest to tear us apart for how big this story was getting, doling out blood-curdling screams to the effect of “I AM THE BOSS OF YOU!” Frankly, beyond being insulting, unreasonable, and to be honest a little hilarious, we simply couldn’t believe that this situation had escalated to this point. Far from a reasonable conversation or settling of differences, this seemed like a ‘telling off’ and to be honest put pretty much everything in context. To feel like you’re being demeaned, disrespected and almost bullied by ANYONE feels terrible but to feel like this is happening and that are hands are tied purely because of the perceived stature of a celebrity, seems utterly ridiculous and frankly, unacceptable.
Pissed off and fired up, we jumped out and did our best to kill it for the 30 mins we had in the lights. We burst ourselves trying to bring it, and after ALL that, we came off beaten, sweaty but elated. In our minds, this is over. Fuck this shit.

Tonight belongs to everyone who came to see us tonight, everyone who waited for HOURS to see We Are Scientists and us; to We Are Scientists themselves who killed it tonight, as always, and totally got our fucking backs! To Brendan, Ian, Jeffrey, and EVERY goddamn person who was down the front, we made it in the end…it was all thanks to you.

Fuck the Grapevine.

We love you all. Fuck you Morrissey.

Ryan, Joshua and Phillip.


Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:41 AM

As someone who is a casual fan/generally respectful and aware of Morrissey's place in music, I can't imagine it's very enjoyable going to see such a difficult and entitled old man moan his way through a couple of old songs, and then probably storm off the stage when something goes wrong.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:42 AM

McDonalds has wifi?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:46 AM

Next time, just take the money and tell everyone else scared of whatever the backlash might be if the news gets out (and I doubt it would've have remained secret even if the band hadn't said anything) to pound sand.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:00 AM

9:41 - there is a pecking order in this industry. Get used to it.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:13 AM

paws -

pure. adulterated. wimpy. shite.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:20 AM

Fuck Joshua,Ryan and phildick they should all line up and go down on Morrissey for even knowing who these douches lemme find out these fags made that shit up for some extra press on their wackass shitshow

Posted by eazy L | May 9, 2014 10:23 AM

One thing you forgot to mention is that Morissey rides a cockhorse!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:29 AM

The Morrissey show at Hammerstein Ballroom, he played a few, maybe in 2007? That was great, a lot of energy, played all the hits.

Saw him at Carnegie Hall a few years later, eh, was bored.

Saw him in Atlantic City January '13 and it was a pretty good show, not quite up to par with the '07 show but still a lot of fun.

I guess it's a crapshoot going to see him, but I'll be checking him out next month at Barclays.

GLTA

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 11:27 AM

I would totally roll on the floor with the Moz
Paws and WAS both suck as musicians, and wasn't the latter already a band of the past?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:12 PM

setlist for this show was pretty good

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:00 PM

I just shaved the hair on my ball sack into a Mohawk like that moz fan

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:59 PM

^ plz post pics

Posted by Anonymous | May 10, 2014 1:30 AM

Gotta blame security on this one - situation got out of control. The same guy in suit & tie got up on the stage twice in this video (I guess if you dress well, as opposed to shirtless or mohawk, security goes easy on you...).

Posted by Anonymous | May 10, 2014 6:04 PM

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