Posted in music on May 9, 2014

Wayne and Kliph with the 'Lips in 2010 (more by Ryan Muir)
Flaming Lips

After he was let go from drumming duties in The Flaming Lips, Kliph Scurlock released a statement claiming that he was fired by frontman Wayne Coyne after taking a stand against against Christina Fallin, singer in band Pink Pony and daughter of Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin, who wore a native American headdress in a now-deleted photo on her Instagram. In a new interview at Rollingstone.com Coyne responds to these allegations, and portrays Scurlock as "abusive, compulsive, pathological liar that will do anything he can do get attention":

The only thing that we would have to say about Kliph leaving is that he just was not very significant to us. And all the things he's saying about the reason he was fired, it's all just made-up lies. He knows we struggled with him for years and it didn't occur to us that it seemed that significant. I don't even use the word "fired." He just doesn't play drums with us anymore - that's the way I'd put it.
Later in the interview Coyne further reiterated this, saying that Scurlock's comments on Christina Fallin (singer for Pink Pony and daughter of Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin) was just the final straw:
Kliph was not fired because of that [headdress incident]. Kliph was fired because of a thousand hateful things that he's done. And he just wasn't a very significant musical part of the Flaming Lips anyway. I think the day after we fired him, we played a show in New Orleans without him. Steven's the drummer. Anybody that listens to those records and think they're hearing Kliph, they're hearing Steven. And Steven is with us and will always be with us.
"Hateful" is a word Coyne repeatedly uses to describe Scurlock. An example:
Anybody who knows him knows what kind of a hateful person he is. I mean, anybody that looks at his stuff could see that most of the bands that we would play with, he despised them. To their face, he would say, "You guys were great" and then 20 minutes later he'd get online and say, "These people are a bunch of fakes. They suck." That would be almost every band we ever played with. The more that time went on, people would pay more attention to him because of his connection to the Flaming Lips.
As for the Native American headdress incident, and the instagram Coyne took of his friends and a dog wearing one...
I understand now that if I'm a spokesperson for any kind of behavior, I shouldn't have done it, and I regret doing it now. I am sorry. I realize now that it goes deeply to the heart of some Native Americans. And I definitely regret it. I don't publicly ever say it, but I live in a neighborhood that was predominantly Native American in the late Seventies and Eighties. I haven't done it publicly, but there's cases of me helping Native Americans. It's all just Internet hate, you know?
In other news, he also talks about who is going to replace Scurlock:
Well, there's two guys. I think we're going to use two different guys. Who is the guy that plays with Radiohead and Portishead? [Clive Deamer] He's great, and we met him at a couple of festivals last summer. And I like the way that they were using two people to do the slightly electronic stuff versus the real rock stuff, and we were trying to go that way. We were thinking of it anyway, and then this thing that happened, there are two guys here who want to be part of this thing. I think it'll be a great addition to this cool group of weirdos that we take around with us, and they're guys that we know right from here. I think it will be really exciting and the Flaming Lips will be better than ever.
Read the whole, lengthy interview over at Rolling Stone.

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Comments (61)

Grown-ass adult drama. How cute.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:04 PM

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MAKE GOOD MUSIC AGAIN.

So full of themselves, so much drama, so much useless bullshit music that never seems to end. Nobody cares about some shitty song you can only hear after inserting Panda blood into a gummi bears asshole.

Focus on music that is actually worthwhile. Such a fall from grace.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:06 PM

i have a boner

Posted by ben from them men | May 9, 2014 12:07 PM

Hey, he's not racist, he lives in a neighborhood that USED to be full of Native Americans, and he has helped some of them before. He also has a black friend!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:12 PM

Now the fired drummer can join a band that makes real music...not gimmicky bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:12 PM

Sorry Wayne, not buying it. I still take Kliph's side.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:14 PM

^^^ was just going to post this dammit

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:15 PM

Yay, bitchy old men whining about stupid shit.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:16 PM

Wayne's response lends credence to Kliph's side...why the need to disparage him as an artist/musician?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:20 PM

wayne coyne is so obviously full of shit and such an egomaniacal asshole.

hey wayne - your music sucks, buddy.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:20 PM

Talk about back-tracking! Coyne, you're a fucking twat.

Scurlock sucked and you kept him in the band for 10+ years? That makes you look a whole lot worse!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:23 PM

A classic case of projection.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:26 PM

To their face, he would say, "You guys were great" and then 20 minutes later he'd get online and say, "These people are a bunch of fakes. They suck." - He was probably talking about the lips.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:29 PM

what a petty self involved world it has become. internet bad...

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:36 PM

he's not racist, he just continues to support the racist chick in that other shitty band.

"'Flaming Lips’ frontman and noted Fallin supporter Wayne Coyne, who stood behind the partition with Fallin’s entourage, accompanied by his girlfriend, laughing and pointing at the protesters"

http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-news/all-your-power-what-would-you-do-christina-fallins-band-pink-pony-protested-norman

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:38 PM

"Abusive, compulsive, pathological liar that will do anything he can do get attention"

Sounds like a certain Flaming Lips frontman I know...

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:42 PM

I used to love this band and over the past few years Wayne has just been increasingly ruining their legacy.

He's always in some kind of drama yet always the innocent one?? Bottom line, if Erykah Badu doesn't like you, neither do I. Seriously, Wayne seems like such an ego-driven jerk!

I don't even need to get into their short, unsinspired live sets now.

As stated above, such a fall from grace!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:46 PM

hasn't there been so many seedy stories about coyne in the past ten years? does anybody take him serious anymore?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:48 PM

@12:29 To their face, he would say, "You guys were great" and then 20 minutes later he'd get online and say, "These people are a bunch of fakes. They suck." - He was probably talking about the lips.

...nah, that's what Wayne did to Beck.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:49 PM

Why do people feel the need to take sides in this one? Both of these guys are clearly full of shit. This band has been completely irrelevant for the past 20 years. Can we get some more news about Morrissey please?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:49 PM

Is he actually saying that Kliph was never on the recordings for Embryonic, the Terror and everything in between? Why is he credited as playing drums then?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 12:53 PM

Ha, I told you I was innocent!!

Posted by Wayne Coyne | May 9, 2014 1:08 PM

I don't know Wayne and I don't know Kliph... and I certainly don't know, Beck... What do I know, nothing and neither do you... the boys will work it out...

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:16 PM

Doesn't change the fact that he would probably play with Miley Cyrus over Deerhoof at this point.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:20 PM

Its pretty funny that Wayne criticizes Kliph for talking bad about other bands. Remember one of Wayne's recent internet flare-ups, criticizing another band publicly.

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/03/win_butler_defe.html

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:22 PM

wayne coyne is an f'ing loser. his pathetic quote, "but there's cases of me helping Native Americans" is sadly reminiscent of "some of my best friends are black."

get the picture?

how ANYONE listens to the flaming $hits is beyond me. coyne's attitude, behaviour and the crap that flows from his mouth is beyond the pale(face).

anyone who reads the drummers FULL posting should get the picture. hard to argue with the truth.

i hope coyne gets scalped.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:30 PM

didn't think ANYONE could be that ignorant! and then there you go 12:47PM.

you deserve a scalping.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:36 PM

I'm still confused as to why Wayne is mad at Morrissey.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:44 PM

maybe "scalping" isn't the best term to use in this situation...

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:45 PM

The lips should fire wayne, rehire kliph, hire deerhoof and form a supergroup who plays lips and deerhoof covers. i'd go to see that band. the lips are a cover band of themselves now anyway.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:50 PM

Relax 1:46, this site isn't the place for serious news or discussions. Its click bait posts and the idiots who comment. Like me.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:50 PM

This goof Kliph could be replaced at a Home Depot parking lot.

Not so well played dude.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:53 PM

^ Exactly. #COTD This site, while once used for music news, is the equivalent of a band covering it's old tunes. It's a joke. And more often than not, the people posting have a vocabulary and grammar skill-set equal to that of a child.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:55 PM

Why the fuck would we talk about alcoholic indians?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:55 PM

^wrong..I work at Home Depot and none of the dudes in plumbing know how to play drums

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 1:55 PM

^Fred? Is that you?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:00 PM

"I don't even use the word "fired." He just doesn't play drums with us anymore - that's the way I'd put it."

and then, a paragraph later, "Kliph was not fired because of that [headdress incident]."


what a schmuck. dude needs to get bent.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:12 PM

wayne's getting attacked by evil robots...

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:25 PM

I am hopeful we will be treated to 'Open Letters' from the likes of Amanda Palmer and Sinead O'Connor. Perhaps a Lips music video with Native American dancers?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:26 PM

Who stole my pita chips?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 2:42 PM

Why is no one talking about the Anthrax song "Indians" and Joey Belladonna's tendency to wear an Indian headdress during live performances of said song. I believe the band also says "waaaaar dance" right before the solo (or maybe it's the breakdown?)

Posted by E.L. Fudge | May 9, 2014 3:33 PM

^clearly you are forgetting the 3 million black chicks who think that by saying they are 1/8 Cherokee we won't notice that they have some kid from New Delhi's hair on their head.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 4:13 PM

Man-child twitter beef

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 4:16 PM

These two hateful betches should hug it out, their he said she said is dumb

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 4:18 PM

Wayne and the leader dude from arcade fire need to be exiled to some shitty state

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 4:21 PM

wayne coyne is a poseur.. bro thought he was a punk in the 80s, alt rocker in the 90s and nu-hippie freak in the 00s.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 5:04 PM

3:33 because no one is talking about Anthrax and Joey Belladonna because no one gives a fuck. Also Indians was written over 25 years ago. And Joey Belladonna isn't the daughter of the governor of a state with a fuckload of native americans vs.. Brooklyn in 1988.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 5:14 PM

Wanye be like bitch please I too busy doin a virgin mobile commercial!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 5:25 PM

DEAMER!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 6:42 PM

The headdress thing is so dumb. I mean sooooo dumb. Even by 2014 standards it's remarkably stupid. I mean, I'm not German, if I wear Lederhosen am I a racist?

It's time to start telling these liberal halfwits to fuck off.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 7:13 PM

The funny thing is the more reprehensible Coyne gets, the better their music gets. This is not a causal connection, but it's interesting to me. The Terror and 7 Skies H3 are the best albums they've done since the '90s.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 7:36 PM

Do we really expect some dude who worked at Long John Silvers for 20 years to be a pinnacle of intelligence?

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 7:36 PM

if she is unconscious, she can't say no.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 8:39 PM

I CALL FLAMING LIPS FRONTMAN WAYNE COYNE A TALENTLESS PIECE OF SHIT IN A NEW INTERVIEW

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 9:06 PM

The Terror was abysmal. They should retire. We have Tame Impala now anyway.

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:45 PM

The Lame Mean Dicks

Posted by Anonymous | May 9, 2014 10:51 PM

7:13 - IGNORANT

Posted by Anonymous | May 10, 2014 10:32 AM

waynes great

Posted by wayne coyne | May 12, 2014 2:28 PM

A petition requesting Festival promoters to kindly request their attendees refrain from wearing Head Dresses at their events.
https://www.change.org/petitions/festival-promoters-request-festival-attendees-from-wearing-native-american-head-dresses-at-festivals-they-promote

Posted by Anonymous | June 7, 2014 8:33 PM

^fat girl or beta male?

Posted by Anonymous | June 7, 2014 8:55 PM

lol, the great Native American, Gerald Brunson.

Fuck outta here.

Posted by Anonymous | June 7, 2014 8:58 PM

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