Posted in metal | music on June 24, 2014

by Wyatt Marshall

Iron Maiden at Austin's 360 Amphitheatre in 2013 (more by Tim Griffin)

Iron Maiden singer Bruce Dickinson had some choice words about punk music in an interview with The Guardian a few days back. In a Q&A with Frank Turner (who definitely has some punk roots), Dickinson compares punk and metal in relation to the cultural mainstream and the "art establishment," then goes on to imply punk musicians were a bunch of no-talent hacks (because apparently it's still 1980). Here's an excerpt:

The closest the "art establishment" ever came to embracing metal was punk. The reason they embraced punk was because it was rubbish and the reason they embraced rubbish was because they could control it. They could say: "Oh yeah, we're punk so we can sneer at everybody. We can't play our fucking instruments, but that means we can make out that this whole thing is some enormous performance art." Half the kids that were in punk bands were laughing at the art establishment, going: "What a fucking bunch of tosspots. Thanks very much, give us the money and we'll fuck off and stick it up our nose and shag birds." But what they'd really love to be doing is being in a heavy metal band surrounded by porn stars."
Burn.

Not to say there was any animosity between Dickinson and Turner. Turner is a self-professed big fan of Iron Maiden and the two will be playing the same stage at the Sonisphere festival, where noted pilot Dickinson will pilot a vintage World War I airplane--the model used by The Red Baron--in a simulated dogfight above the audience before Iron Maiden plays. There are some other memorable quotes, including some words of wisdom about fame:

I'm not interested in being famous. Fame is the excrement of creativity, it's the shit that comes out the back end, it's a by-product of it.I'm not interested in being famous. Fame is the excrement of creativity, it's the shit that comes out the back end, it's a by-product of it.
And a funny story about Maiden's legendary Rock in Rio show:
At Rock in Rio, the first time we played it in '84, I was playing this nice guitar and the monitors just were not to my liking. It was only 500,000 people at the biggest rock gig in the world ever, we'd had three days of madness down there, proper Beatlemania, and we run onstage and I'm thinking: "Fucking hell, it sounds like shit!" I run over to the monitor desk and I'm yelling at the guy: "Your monitors suck, you cunt!" and I smashed the guitar in half over the top of his monitor desk to make the point, which didn't really solve anything. First of all I'd destroyed a perfectly good guitar, and the monitors were still shit. So I go back onstage in front of 500,000 people and kick the monitors off the front of the stage, so now there are no monitors. Worse than bad monitors is no monitors.
Read the whole interview at The Guardian.

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Comments (56)

Well, he's not wrong...

Posted by Alex Jerez | June 24, 2014 4:38 PM

Captain Obvious is on the job!

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:43 PM

"Thanks very much, give us the money and we'll fuck off and stick it up our nose and shag birds"

that was the most British rant ever

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:43 PM

Punk > Metal

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:43 PM

"Dickinson will pilot a vintage World War I airplane--the model used by The Red Baron--in a simulated dogfight above the audience before Iron Maiden plays."

Now THAT is punk as fuck.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:44 PM

"I'm not interested in being famous. Fame is the excrement of creativity, it's the shit that comes out the back end, it's a by-product of it.I'm not interested in being famous. Fame is the excrement of creativity, it's the shit that comes out the back end, it's a by-product of it."

^lol@ sausage redundancy

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:46 PM

L U L Z@ "proper Beatlemania"


Please tell me this sausage is seriously comparing Iron Maiden to the Beatles.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 4:49 PM

In South America, Iron Maiden basically are The Beatles.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:02 PM

Iron Maiden are a fantastic band filled with ace musicians. Bruce has always had the tendency to shit talk about other bands; sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesnt. Regardless, he's Bruce Dickinson, so his life is already exponentially better than yours or mine. The Rock in Rio from the early 00's is a marvel to witness.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:10 PM

Apparently Bruce Dickinson has heard Perfect Pussy.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:20 PM

and shagged some, to boot!

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:49 PM

Iron Maiden is a pile of fucking shit, fuck them, fuck Bruce Dickinson a wannabe Dio.

Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, or AC/DC > Iron Maiden

Run To The Hills? Replace Bruce with Dio and it sounds better but still an annoying turd of a song. ¨Ran faw yaw li-i-iiife!" Oh God FUCK YOU. Annoying shit.

He plays a concert drawing half a million people and he's being abusive to the concert workers and not liking the sound. Fucking primadonna.

Fact is punk has made more of an impact on music and culture than his shit band ever did/will. Iron Maiden was for all the pussies who didn't like the three bands I listed who destroy IM.

Posted by D | June 24, 2014 5:50 PM

They can't play their instruments because they'd rather argue about what is or isn't punk than practice.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:58 PM

Metal dudes are always pissed that they spend so much time practicing, and still aren't as cool as the punk guys, and they're not taken as seriously as classical guys. Metal is silly. Face it. I mean these guys have a 30' mummy that dances around on stage.

Maiden does have some pretty good tunes. Still silly.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 5:58 PM

"he's Bruce Dickinson, so his life is already exponentially better than yours"

^lol@ sausage projection

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 6:24 PM

smdh

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 6:30 PM

lol@ the "Dick" in Dickinson. You couldn't make this shit up if you tried. Ignorant Saint Vitus sausage legend right there!

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 6:37 PM

lol@the lolsausage guy/girl/tranny. Kudos to your commitment to being the coolest.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 6:49 PM

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 6:51 PM

Post city fussiness.

The LONGEST POST CITY BOY STREAK WITHOUT A WHIFF OF POONTANG contest is full - NO MORE ENTRIES (winner gets a ladiez lesson from Mr. Rock N' Roll aka Mr. Foot Fetish.)

Posted by Mr. Foot Fetish | June 24, 2014 7:13 PM

Di'anno was always cooler than Dickinson cause he was punk!

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 7:14 PM

Bruce was the always the weak link in Maiden so you can't blame him for being a little insecure.

Posted by Eddie | June 24, 2014 7:45 PM

exactly, 7:14. Bruce has a bit of a chippy on his shouldy, don't he.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 7:49 PM

the best metal guitarist of all time could be 50 years old and still playing by himself in his mums basement right this moment. while the worst punk guitarist of all time will probably have already played 50 shows with 10 different bands before he or she even drops out of middle school at age 14.

and this guy wants us to care about which one is a better or worse way to go about it? good talk tho.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 7:57 PM

fuck this guy.

Posted by Dr. Know | June 24, 2014 7:59 PM

oh man, Bruce totally blew up my spot on the whole porn star issue. it's like he stole my diary or something.

Posted by Ian MacKaye | June 24, 2014 8:07 PM

the only “porn stars” into Maiden are the kind who have aged out of porn and into the escort industry (with slack circumcision standards)

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 8:10 PM

This is the little sausage who prances about like he's belting out show tunes right?

He's FABULOUS!

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 8:10 PM

^ ...in the SVGH, amirite?

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 8:11 PM

Whatever Bruce, I've been practicing moderately hard lately and my 15 year old girlfriend thinks my playing is "really getting there".

ps. i bet you suck at theremin. ya, thought so.

Posted by Greg Ginn | June 24, 2014 8:22 PM

8:10 ftw. Would love to see the "porn stars" that "surround" Iron Maiden.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 8:25 PM

Five dollar foot long?

Posted by Eggs1234 | June 24, 2014 8:27 PM

I like Bruce, but this is beyond ignorant.
One could argue that Maiden has written a powerful tune in decades. It's evident by their recents set lists.
Not to say they are not great live, but Bruce, you gotta shut the hell on this. I disagree 1 million percent. Yeah, I know how to play music too.

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 8:59 PM

l o l

i r o n m a i d e n ?

m o r e l i k e

h a r d - o n g y r a t i o n

a m i r i t e ?

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 9:15 PM

Bruce Dickinson: Compilation Producer, Producer of The Essential Clash, by The Clash (for whom he was a roadie)

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 9:49 PM

The Clash were lamer than Green Day

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2014 11:05 PM

ROCKS IN HIS DICK
ROCKS, ROCKS IN HIS DICK

ROCKS IN HIS DICK
NOW HE CANT FIND HIS CRACK

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 2:00 AM

two words

Darby Crash

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 8:29 AM

Nikki Sixx tells a pretty funny story in that Motley Crue book about fucking this guy's wife. Because I'm almost positive that Bruce Dickinson has an extremely small penis.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 8:44 AM

Nicki Sixx fucked less than 40% of who he claimed to fuck like all glam rock guys have done and still do.'Doubt he fucked Bruce's wife. All these glam rock guys are full of shit.


Posted by D | June 25, 2014 8:51 AM

Funny for a singer to be ripping on bands that don't know how to play instruments.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 9:17 AM

There have been plenty of bands who are true musicians while remaining artful with a punk aesthetic. He's still hung up on the sex pistols , and the atmosphere of punk music being popular at the beginning of Iron Maiden definitely gave them a little leeway to be more edgy and offensive, The punk scene was in part responsible for the NWOBHM . I get the feeling Iron Maiden would have sounded more like Deep Purple if there was no punk influence, they had a keyboard player early on. Also Bruce wasn't there for the early years and Paul Dianno was into punk.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 9:32 AM

2 sides of the same coin

Decline Of Western Civilization (1) = Punk

Decline Of Western Civilization 2 = Metal

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 11:17 AM

11:05 You shut your damn troll mouth!

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 12:30 PM

Bruce Dickinson turned his back on hardcore.

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 12:56 PM

Yeah you tell 'em Bruce. And punk lyrics too, what's up with that? They don't talk about junk I can relate to, like cowboys and Indians, Edgar Allen Poe stories, and medieval torture devices. Who cares about economic inequality, racism, sexism and an overbearing government?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 1:00 PM

just smdh

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 1:40 PM

Bruce is wrong, but I still love him, Iron Maiden, AND hardcore. Also I'm into the WWI plane flight before the show. who could make that shit up?!?

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 3:00 PM

there is a video of bruce on youtube where he farts in his hand and then smells that hand

Posted by Anonymous | June 25, 2014 3:58 PM

I grow up on 90s skate-punk,original punk rock,NYHC,early beatdown HC and some metal (especially thrash and death).Saying punk musicians are jealous is fucking retarded.The power of punk never came from the way they play their instruments. Punk in general lack into technical skills and power,everyone know this! But this is not what make punk a fantastic genre.. It's the fucking energy,anger and fury ..this is what make punk a fantastic genre. The impact of anger and energy of punk is 10 times louder than any metal bands,nothing is more furious than a piss off punk rocker!!! The power of metal reside into his technical skills and musical heaviness, this is the only thing what punk lack. But in the 80s some bands understand we can combine the power of metal's technical prowess and the energy and anger of punk..and we call this Thrash Metal and crossover,even 90s HC scene took the heaviness of metal into their brand of HC-punk...all thoses genres can unite punk,hc kids,skins and metalheads into one banner.How Old are you Mr.DICK-inson??? are you living in a others time zone?? Punk vs metal is so retarded!! we are not into 1970 or 1980 anymore!!Bruce DICK-inson is a oldfag need a serious musical history lesson, because without punk there is no thrash METAL.and no thrash = no death metal = no modern metal!! If we listen to this asshole we stuck forever into pathetic oldfag dinosaurs metal bullshit!! Punk help to shape a new direction for the future of metal, no single bands in the late 70,early 80s play fast like punk, all metal bands played slow with lots of heaviness but lack of energy. Punk help to give some metal bands lyrical content,social and poltical conscience, think about how many Thrash bands sings about social justice and others political issues..Grindcore is a another prime exemple of punk influence on a metal subgenre (some said Grindcore is a HC subgenre), some brutal death metal like Dying Fetus are poltical as fuck.. Iron Maiden and early metal are bunch of nerds stuck into their basement to play to fucking dungeons and dragons and live in a others world!! thanx punk rock to making metal not a diluated jokes!!!

Posted by Mr.BRUCE DICK-inson | June 26, 2014 6:44 PM

lol, nice paragraph brah

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2014 9:04 PM

OMG 6:44 pls xplain

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2014 9:09 PM

6:44's manifesto should interest the retarded alternate universe FBI

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2014 10:17 PM

Joke's on 10:17 for actually reading that shit. I got about 4 words in and my hair started to hurt.

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2014 10:23 PM

666 isn't even the number of the beast... and no one's really ever called Bruus-y out on that glaring misstep, have they.....

Albatrosses are still fucking hard as shit though.

Posted by Anonymous | June 26, 2014 11:16 PM

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