Posted in music | tour dates on August 8, 2014

Ginn w/ 2013 Black Flag at Warsaw (more by PSquared)
Greg Ginn

The current version of "Black Flag" (aka original guitarist Greg Ginn with three dudes who joined in the past year) treks on, playing increasingly smaller venues. When they first hit NYC it was for two Warsaw shows (at least one sold out) and a secret show at the very intimate Grand Victory. The second time was at Europa, and now they're coming back for a non-secret show at Grand Victory on October 2. Tickets go on sale Monday (8/11) at 8:55 AM.

The band's only other currently announced show is tonight (8/8) in Texas, the end of a month-long tour. All currently known dates are listed, with a video of them playing "Nervous Breakdown" in LA this past May, below...

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Black Flag -- 2014 Tour Dates
8/8 Metropolis Mcallen, TX
10/2 Grand Victory Brooklyn, NY

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Comments (77)

(aka original guitarist Greg Ginn with three dudes who joined in the past year)

BV you are pompous assholes. Black Flag has always been Ginn and a revolving door of musicians. Maybe your hipster palates would love if the leeches FLAG came back right? Right. Fuck off.

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:04 PM

Love Black Flag but this sucks.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:07 PM

3:04 is either Ginn or the walking anger problem Vallely.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:10 PM

they sound like a pile of ass

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:10 PM

Bob Cervex, your mom is pretty mad that you still intentionally wear dirty clothes.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:10 PM

"3:04 is either Ginn or the walking anger problem Vallely."

Hey unfortunate placenta, I'm not a number. I gave a name. Ginn is actually a softie and Mike only gets angry when you cross him the wrong way.

"Bob Cervex, your mom is pretty mad that you still intentionally wear dirty clothes."

Hello waste of sperm and egg, how are you doing? Are you stalking me? You know what I wear or what I'm wearing now? Exactly you don't! Wait are you an oxygen stealing hipster?! If so isn't it you and your ilk that buy over priced clothes that looks old.

This all should not be surprising since BV thinks a guy that throws a rave where a woman is raped is cool.

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:18 PM

^ wtf

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:20 PM

Or maybe 3:04pm isn't a Keith Morris/Flag dicksucker like you and BV.

By your logic everyone in support of Keith and Flag is Keith and Flag.

Btw you can post all your ramblings in one comment 3:10pm. This isn't Twitter or your texting dumbass.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:20 PM

Black Flag has always been Ginn and whoever. It is like Mark E. Smith and the Fall.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:21 PM

WTF what? They wrote a story about a rave in Michigan where a woman was raped and they didn't say what a scumbag this rave thrower was for not caring about it. BV supported him by omission or not calling him out for being an uncaring jerk who could be legally held responsible for this and possibly lose the land his bitching rave was thrown when the rape victim's family sues him for it and wins.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:26 PM

It takes about 30 seconds to find video of Vallely physically threatening 12 year olds at skate demos.

And history is going to remember Ginn stiffing the bands on SST at least as well as it will remember black flag's best days, long passed.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:27 PM

T-minus the rest of today when the pathetic fuck Bartedge/D chimes in.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:30 PM

Bob Cervex is so '90s with his placenta and sperm talk.

Wrap your umbilical chord around my areola of pesticideeeee

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:31 PM

"WTF what? They wrote a story about a rave in Michigan where a woman was raped and they didn't say what a scumbag this rave thrower was for not caring about it. BV supported him by omission or not calling him out for being an uncaring jerk who could be legally held responsible for this and possibly lose the land his bitching rave was thrown when the rape victim's family sues him for it and wins."

Yea and the piece of shit working for BV that posted on facebook said "this guy rules". It's from Aug 5th. They think a guy who throws a party where a woman gets raped and where people OD rules. Fuck em.

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:32 PM

Bob Cervex is over the hill and angry that no one cares about his "I was there in the good old days of hardcore" stories.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:35 PM

"It takes about 30 seconds to find video of Vallely physically threatening 12 year olds at skate demos."

Nope. Maybe you're thinking about that video of Henry and the kid who tried to interview him?

"And history is going to remember Ginn stiffing the bands on SST at least as well as it will remember black flag's best days, long passed."

Shut the fuck up. You either like Black Flag or you don't anymore. You probably never did because your mental midget brain cannot handle understanding that Black Flag was always the Greg Ginn show.

"Bob Cervex is so '90s with his placenta and sperm talk.

Wrap your umbilical chord around my areola of pesticideeeee"

That's so 90s? I didn't know that. Is that an insult? I like how you then try to "out 90s" me. Have to love hipster trash.

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:36 PM

maybe they'll let everyone get a turn on the mic and hopefully find the next rollins?

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:37 PM

"Bob Cervex is over the hill and angry that no one cares about his "I was there in the good old days of hardcore" stories."

Let's say you actually knew me and I was over the hill. What's wrong with being old? Hipsters are into ageism? Good to know! I haven't told any hardcore stories either. Anything else you cancer with legs?

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:38 PM

LOL @ B V approving comments when I posted their initials together.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:40 PM

Bob no point in getting into a back and forth with an intern at Vice Records who signed Keith Morris's third-rate, cut-rate (Black Flag Rip) Off!

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:41 PM

Bob, press your polystyrene gland into my rotting flower pot and we'll metastasizeeeee

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:45 PM

"Bob no point in getting into a back and forth with an intern at Vice Records who signed Keith Morris's third-rate, cut-rate (Black Flag Rip) Off!"

Haha true. Fair enough, good point. Last thing I'm going to say is the rest of the guys: Mike Vallely, Tyler Smith and Brandon Pertzborn are talented guys and they at the very least deserve to have their names mentioned.

That's all. Thanks to those who stood up for me.

Posted by Bob Cervex | August 8, 2014 3:47 PM

Bob so you know there's only one dickhead writing the bullshit:

Bartedge

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:50 PM

Bob went off the meds and is talking to himself again.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:56 PM

^ No that's Bartedge

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 3:58 PM

I will bet money that Cinema Cinema will be opening. No other band will play that shit show.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 4:00 PM

^ Oh please countless bands would play at the drop of a hat if only to say they played with Black Flag.

Get off Keith Morris'/Off!'s dick, Vice Records intern.

Or more like wannabe hardcore punk hipster nerd. Go listen to Cerebral Ballzy bitch.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 4:04 PM

If this is keeping Ginn from releasing jazz records I'm all for it.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 4:24 PM

^ Hahahaha the theremin, too.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 4:28 PM

All you idiots STFU and get in the van.

Posted by Hank | August 8, 2014 5:20 PM

Who the f is Bartedge?

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 6:26 PM

Hey Cervex,

You're right that Black Flag was always the Greg Ginn show, but it's not as simple as that. A big reason they broke up the band in the first place was because while Ginn could've replaced Rollins like he replaced every other singer, by that point they admitted Rollins had become a huge part of the band, and it wouldn't be Black Flag without him.

Also, though this "reunion" was an embarrassment from the start, at least Ginn had one of Black Flag's singers from the initial run fronting the band. Other than him, no one in this band now was in it earlier than 2013. Sure Ginn wrote the songs, but a BAND is a BAND, and there is no reason to call this Black Flag. This may as well be Ginn's solo band covering Black Flag songs.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 7:31 PM

Black flag is greg gonna band and always was
He wrote most every song and a majority if the lyrics

If he wants the walking meat heAd mike V douche bag as a singer
Then that's black flag

As much as you don't want it to be it is what it is

No greg ginn
No black flag

Sorry keith morris

Posted by Bartedge | August 8, 2014 7:38 PM

Bartedge is life ...


By the way keith morris has been milking the black flag thing
With his band off

If Keith was all about the music why not bring back the circle jerks

Instead he wants to cater to the hipster crowd
Who are black flag junkies ever since they found out
They were gay for Henry rollins

Posted by Bartedge | August 8, 2014 7:42 PM

I was cutting the rug
Down at a place called The Jug
With a girl named Linda Lu
When in walked a man
With a gun in his hand
And he was looking for you know who.
He said, "Hey there fellow,
With the hair colored yellow,
Watcha tryin' to prove?
'Cause that's my woman there
And I'm a man who cares
And this might be all for you."

I was scared and fearing for my life.
I was shakin' like a leaf on a tree.
'Cause he was lean, mean,
Big and bad, Lord,
Pointin' that gun at me.
I said, "Wait a minute, mister,
I didn't even kiss her.
Don't want no trouble with you.
And I know you don't owe me
But I wish you'd let me
Ask one favor from you."

[Chorus]
"Won't you give me three steps,
Gimme three steps mister,
Gimme three steps towards the door?
Gimme three steps
Gimme three steps mister,
And you'll never see me no more."

Well the crowd cleared away
And I began to pray
As the water fell on the floor.
And I'm telling you son,
Well, it ain't no fun
Staring straight down a forty-four.
Well he turned and screamed at Linda Lu
And that's the break I was looking for.
And you could hear me screaming a mile away
As I was headed out towards the door.

Posted by Bartedge | August 8, 2014 7:46 PM

"Mike Vallely" is the singer for Black Flag. Does anyone need to know more than this?

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 9:11 PM

Hey Bob Cervex, Bartledge and whoever the hell else - Yes...all other issues aside with the guy, Greg Ginn has always been the catalyst of this band. But to try and imply that the current ringers he's collected are on an equal playing field with previous vital contributors to the (quickly diminishing) legacy of Black Flag such as Dez, Rollins, Robo Chuck and, to a lesser extent Ron Reyes...and yes, even Keith Morris, is patently absurd on its face.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 9:12 PM

fucking terrible.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 9:29 PM

Bartledge - Nice try at troll baiting but you clearly have issues and your last rambling, idiotic, anti-semantic posts discredit any opinions you have. Seek help.

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 10:36 PM

The drummer isn't bad

Posted by Anonymous | August 8, 2014 11:04 PM

Everyone has Aids

Posted by Bartedge | August 8, 2014 11:37 PM

Greg Ginn was a man
With a horrible disease
Could not find no cure
Won't you help him if you please?

Greg Ginn

Greg came to my door
Asking me for change
His eyes were clear and pure
But his mind was so deranged

Greg Ginn

Greg went to a banker
Asking for some bills
The banker said, "I ain't got that
But I sure got some powerful pills, oh yeah!"

Greg Ginn

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 12:14 AM

mike vallely is issuing an open challenge to any of you shit talkers to face him at summerslam

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 1:15 AM

Black Flag = Greg Ginn

is what it is

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 2:10 AM

I love how one mention of Bartedge sets him off to run off ten crazy posts and invoke Obama in at least one of them.

Yeah Obama plans to bomb ISIS (now just "IS") who are killing Iraqi civilians who don't fit their way of life - you got a problem with that? If you do you're a piece of shit.

Obama led the killing of Osama Bin Laden who masterminded 9/11. Your hero George W.Bush? He says he didn't "spend much time" on OBL. So put a sock in it re: Obama who has also got over 40 uninsured million Americans health insurance and is calling for a $10.10 minimum wage.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 4:27 AM

Bartedge you are a fucking coward plain and simple.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 4:29 AM

Wow, what a strange discussion

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 9:10 AM

Josh/crazed annoying teenage asshole/whatever he's going by is back as Bartedge to annoy the piss out of us. I still think he's employed by BV to drive traffic.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 9:41 AM

Obamacare will make everyone's health care coat more starting
In 2016

After the commi in chief leaves office

What moron actually voted for Obama ?
An uninformed moron that who

Posted by Bartedge | August 9, 2014 1:16 PM

^ Bullshit and wishful thinking on your part nutball.

Who did you vote for? Did you even vote? Are you even registered to vote and if not STFU esp. when you're fortysomething which means you have NEVER voted if you didn't register.

Seriously grow some balls and tell us who you voted for.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 1:47 PM

...........................

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 4:46 PM

50% of the lyrics: Chuck and Rollins
95% of the bass: Chuck and Kira
100% of the drums: Robo and Bill
100% of the lead vocals: Keith, Dez and Rollins

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 4:53 PM

^

Ginn formed and named the band. He put out and distributed all the records for the band. He also booked all the shows and tours for the band. Furthermore he housed and fed Rollins when Rollins first came to LA, might have even paid for Rollins to come out to LA to join the band.

The drums and bass were written off the guitar. The lyrics were written off the music.

No one ever said Ginn played all the instruments on record (he certainly didn't live haha.)

Therefore, no Greg Ginn, no Black Flag, so spare us your percentage breakdown of who did what.

Again no Greg Ginn, no Black Flag, no Keith forming Circle Jerks, Midget Handjob, or Off!, or Rollins forming Rollins Band and doing everything else he's done. Keith and Henry made their names off Black Flag.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 5:28 PM

Oh yeah - Black Flag would've still existed without Keith or Henry as there were plenty of can't play an instrument egomaniacs from So Cal like them to choose from for a singer. Look at BF's current vocalist now (as big an egomaniac as there ever was.) Quite honestly, Keith and Henry were lucky to be accepted into the band.

Would BF have been as successful without Keith and Henry? Who knows? Keith would've never formed Circle Jerks and Henry Rollins would've never formed Rollins Band, done his spoken word, or put out books without being in Black Flag first.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 5:36 PM

1:47 - ignore him, it's D and just looking for people to keep this going.

Ask him about getting beat up by DMS dudes in NYC or working at C-Town, he loves talking about that.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 6:09 PM

Nah try Bartedge is D.

Now Bartedge is posting Anonymous as if people can't see that.

Pathetic.

'Still home at 6:09pm, Bartedge? Sad sack of shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 7:07 PM

Everyone knows it's you you dumb shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 7:08 PM

7:07 put down you're pathetic flip phone and click on askjeeves.com on what an iPhone does. I'm not home but I am sitting here by the Red Hook waterfront as your sister is blowing me. She isn't doing that good a job though. Failure must be genetic. Have a great evening bud!

Posted by Bartedge | August 9, 2014 7:55 PM

Keith being a former Black Flag vocalist had nothing to do with the subsequent popularity of the Circle Jerks. Many CJ fans outside of Cali never even new that Keith used to sing for BF nimrod.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 8:41 PM

^ Bullshit. Keith's ex-Black Flag status was the main reason CJ existed.

Bartedge you don't post on let alone own an iPhone you Assurance Wireless candybar phone bitch and you're not in Red Hook and if you were why are you at the Red Hook waterfront? Looking to blow men you closet homosexual? Yep.

Again why don't you say who you are.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 10:22 PM

Hey Bartedge what's a racist like you doing in a predominantly black neighborhood?

'Doubt you'll go up to a black person esp. a black man and run your anti-Obama nonsense.

Coward. Chickenshit. Pussy.

Posted by Anonymous | August 9, 2014 10:33 PM

^
I walked up to 5 black dudes and told them Obama was Gay

Their response was a bunch of high fives
And saying " thanks my nigga finally someone said it "

Bartedge my nigga

Posted by Bartedge | August 10, 2014 6:04 PM

All black people hate Obama and think he's a joke
And disrespectfull to blacks

I mean he vacations in Martha's Vineyard the whitest vacation
Place on earth

Any real nigga knows Obamas a down low brother

The only black people who like Obama are welfare darkies

Most who hold real jobs and pay taxes hate him just like any other normal person does

Posted by Bartedge | August 10, 2014 6:08 PM

Brilliant way to kill Black Flag! Keep it up Greg and we will all surely remember you as the greatest punk band to overshadow the legacy of the greatest punk band ever,

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2014 9:49 PM

This is honesty the worst thread I've made it through in the history of BV.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2014 9:51 PM

To BV: Can't you guys moderate these threads? It's killing your credibility to have such moronic comments on nearly EVERY post. Really.

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2014 9:52 PM

^
Yeh freedom of speech is such nonsense
We need to ban it and sanitize what people say
So whinny hipsters aren't offended

You are the perfect example of why the internet sucks so bad today

Fortunately BV seems to be forward thinking and know
That we live in a free country despite the people who mostly post here
Don't believe in freedom

Posted by Anonymous | August 10, 2014 10:37 PM

^except when we're discussing AIDS.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2014 12:40 AM

9:52 - I agree. But, to BV, a click is a click and they're making money of people going back to threads to view this garbage.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2014 9:55 AM

Brian Cruz takes it up the ass

Posted by Anonymous | August 13, 2014 8:22 PM

HACK FLAG

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 6:21 PM

Bartedge with another one of his homosexual fantasies at 8:22pm.

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 7:24 PM

Hey fuckstick (Bartedge) if BV wants to ban whatever speech they want to ban they can because it's their comments section not yours as much you think it is with your endless psychobabble.

BTW if you believe in freedom of speech so much you must believe in freedom from reprial from it, so why don't you put a name to what you say you sniveling coward? I don't have to put a name to mine because I'm not running my mouth about people behind their backs like you.

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 7:33 PM

Bartedge, when you're done fingering your own bunghole and sniffing it, wash your hands and come upstairs. Dinner is ready.

Love,
Mom

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 8:49 PM

8:49pm is awfully late to have dinner.

You sure it's dinner and not your pussy? LOL

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 9:08 PM

8:49pm is awfully late to have dinner.

You sure it's dinner and not your pussy like I hope it is?

Posted by Bartedge | August 14, 2014 9:09 PM

Well, son, that all depends on how you play your cards.

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2014 9:19 PM

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