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The annual winter Tomorrow Never Knows fest returns to various music venues throughout Chicago in January, and this year's stellar lineup looks something like this:

01/14: The Both (Aimee Mann + Ted Leo) | Operators

01/15: Kishi Bashi String Quartet | Grifters | Protomartyr | Cameron Esposito

01/16: Cloud Nothings | Zola Jesus | Hamilton Leithauser | PUP | Sara Schaefer | Joe Mande

01/17: Jukebox the Ghost | Strand of Oaks | Alvvays | Tim Heidecker

01/18: The Family Crest

Venues include chubas Tavern, Lincoln Hall, Metro Chicago, The Athenaeum Theatre, and Hideout Inn. Tickets, 5-day passes and more info HERE.

Cloud Nothings @ P4K Fest (more by James Richards IV)
Cloud Nothings

Cloud Nothings, who like St. Vincent were in town to play Pitchfork over the summer, like St. Vincent just announced their own Chicago show and it happens at Metro on 1/16 as part of Tomorrow Never Knows. Tickets are on sale now.

photos by James Richards IV

St. Vincent / FKA Twigs / Twin Peaks @ P4K Day 2
2014 Pitchfork Festival - Day 2
2014 Pitchfork Festival - Day 2
2014 Pitchfork Festival - Day 2
2014 Pitchfork Festival - Day 2

The Saturday night headliner might have technically been Neutral Milk Hotel, but you'd never guess it wasn't St. Vincent judging by the massive, dense crowd that gathered to see Annie Clark maintain her status as the most badass breakout indie-rock star of 2014. With her lavender hair tied back in "Heidi"-style French braids, and rocking a black, short-sleeved cocktail dress festooned with a giant gold flower, Clark blended her love of designers like Diane von Furstenburg and Vivienne Westwood seamlessly with her adoration of her personal style icon Albert Einstein, and paired it with robotic choreography straight from her 2013 tour with "Love This Giant" collaborator David Byrne. All that studied road work paid off: Who else could become a temporary Nirvana frontwoman, play the "SNL" season finale and enthrall a sea of some 5,000 people in the middle of Chicago in just under three months? - [Billboard]
Pitchfork Fest is on its final day for 2014 as we post this, and here are a set of pics from Saturday, including sets from St. Vincent, FKA Twigs, Danny Brown, The Field, Wild Beasts, Chicago upstarts Twin Peaks and lots more.

Head to BrooklynVegan for more Day 2 pics and review, including a few from Neutral Milk Hotel's headlining set, and pics from Day 1 are HERE and HERE and Day 3 are HERE. More of this Day 2 set below...

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Deafheaven @ Sasquatch 2014 (more by Chris & Rae Graham)

Pitchfork Music Festival 2014 is just a month away (July 18-20), and a bunch of fest aftershows have now been announced. There are a few slated to take place around the corner from Union Park at Bottom Lounge, and others at Schubas and Lincoln Hall.

Here are your late-night show options...

July 18
Deafheaven, Perfect Pussy @ Bottom Lounge
FKA Twigs @ Bottom Lounge (Upstairs)
Wild Beasts, Mutual Benefit @ Lincoln Hall
Cloud Nothings, The Wytches @ Schubas

July 19
Dum Dum Girls, Ex Hex, Speedy Ortiz @ Bottom Lounge
Real Estate, Peter Matthew Bauer @ Lincoln Hall
DIIV, Lodro, Regal Degal @ the Empty Bottle

July 20
Majical Cloudz, Hundred Waters @ Lincoln Hall

Tickets for ALL Pitchfork Festival aftershows (linked above) go on sale this Friday (6/20) at noon CST.

Pitchfork Festival 2013 (more by James Richards IV)

As discussed, the 2014 Pitchfork Music Festival is slated to take place from July 18-20 in Chicago's Union Park. The fests initial lineup included Beck, Neutral Milk Hotel, Kendrick Lamar, tUnE-yArDs, Sharon Van Etten, Grimes, Slowdive, and more, and St. Vincent, Danny Brown, Avey Tare's Slasher Flicks, Schoolboy Q, Cloud Nothings, Deafheaven, Perfect Pussy, Jon Hopkins, Majical Cloudz, Speedy Ortiz, SZA, DJ Rashad and DJ Spinn, Hundred Waters, Isaiah Rashad, Twin Peaks, and others have now been added to the festival.

UPDATE: just a month after this lineup was posted, DJ Rashad tragically passed away. Rest in Peace Rashad.

Festival Passes and single-day tickets are still available, and we've also got a few pairs of three-day passes to give away!

The full festival lineups-by-day and contest details can be found below...

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Cloud Nothings @ BV-SXSW 2013 (more by Sarah Frankie Linder)

Cloud Nothings are slated to welcome the follow-up to 2012's excellent Attack on Memory on April 1 via Carpark // Mom + Pop Records in the US. It's called Here and Nowhere Else, was produced by John Congleton (St. Vincent, Swans, etc.), and you've already heard its great lead single "I'm Not Part of Me." They've now revealed some live footage of the tune from a recent show at Brooklyn venue Baby's All Right, and you can check it out at the bottom of this post.

CN have also announced a spring North American tour in support of their forthcoming LP. That tour includes a performance at Lincoln Hall on May 3 with support from Detroit punks Protomartyr, and tickets go on sale this Friday (2/14) at noon CST.

Speaking of Protomartyr, they're set to release their new album, Under Color of Official Right, on April 8 via Hardly Art. They've previously shared the LP's lead single "Scum, Rise!" which is available to stream below. You also may have heard them on the 2013 Record Store Day compilation Sup Pop 1000.

All Cloud Nothings dates, live footage of "I'm Not Part of Me," and a stream of Protomartyr's new single lie after the jump...

Continue reading "Cloud Nothings prepping 'Here and Nowhere Else,' playing Lincoln Hall w/ Protomartyr on spring tour (dates, song stream)"

Lou Barlow @ Green Music Fest (more by Rachel Angres)
Lou Barlow

Dinosaur Jr. was one of the many artists who played the 2012 edition of the Pygmalion Music Festival in Champaign-Urbana in September. The band's Lou Barlow listed it as one of his top three moments of 2012... he's just having trouble remembering what it's called...

#3 a festival in Champaign Illinois that featured almost every newish band i wanted to see, one after the other.. Willis Earl Beal , Unknown Mortal Orchestra, Lower Dens .. Grizzly Bear .. Willis was as odd as i could have expected, UMO was as fucked up and soulful as i could have desired and Lower Dens were.. sublime.. sounding nothing like Sublime , of course but, y'know..spare and beautiful..i love how younger kids these days sound like the older guys from my day.. the late 70's early 80's new wave/post-punkers from new york that wore big framed glasses and captured my teenage imagination.. i also saw Cloud Nothings that day which was interesting because they sounded like all the bands sebadoh played with in the mid-90's -combined- .. in conclusion , a great festival i can't remember the name of ...another musical highlight..
The 2013 edition of Pygmalion goes down September 26-28. Stay tuned for lineup announcements.

Lou's full list of three 'Best Moments' of 2012, below....

Continue reading "Lou Barlow loved the Pygmalion Music Festival (he just can't remember the name)"

Cloud Nothings @ Pitchfork Festival 2012 (more by James Richards IV)

Cloud Nothings are currently on tour, and were scheduled to visit Chicago for a two-night stand at Lincoln Hall next week -- on September 18 & 19. Their September 19 performance at the venue has now been canceled "due to unavoidable scheduling conflicts." All tickets will be honored on 9/18, and refunds are also available.

As seen on BrooklynVegan, C.N. side project Chomp will be acting as main support for the band on a few of their upcoming shows. Chomp will be releasing their debut LP, Buddah Jabba Momma, next week via Exit Stencil. You can stream the album tracks "Throw Out Your Wish List" and "Done Waiting" at the bottom of this post.

All Cloud Nothings / Chomp tour dates, and a couple of Chomp song streams are below.

Continue reading "Cloud Nothings cancel one of their two Lincoln Hall shows"


* Husky, Santah, Houtakker @ Schubas
* Ted Nugent, Laura Wilde @ House of Blues
* The Island of Misfit Toys, Dowsing @ Subterranean
* Caddywhompus, Big Science, JellyBones @ The Burlington
* Estrogen Highs, Bomb Banks, House Sounds @ Empty Bottle
* White Mystery, The Hussy, Absolutely Not, The Eeries @ Fireside Bowl

Melbourne, Australia's Husky headline Schubas tonight.

Bloc Party are streaming their forthcoming album, Four, in its entirety HERE.

FORNOONE.tv posted a session they did with Cloud Nothings at Schubas, before the group's sold-out show on April 6. They performed "Fall In." Check out the clip below.

2:54 have a new video for "Sugar." Check it out below.

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Cloud Nothings @ Pitchfork Festival 2012 (more by James Richards IV)

Cloud Nothings, who recently hit Chicago to play the 2012 Pitchfork Music Festival, are getting ready to head out on a brief European tour next week. They'll return stateside in the beginning of September to play FYF Fest in Los Angeles. After what looks like two weeks off, the Cleveland, OH outfit will begin touring their way to Champaign-Urbana's Pygmalion Music Festival (September 27-29). Leading up to Illinois festival, Cloud Nothings will stop in Chicago for a two-night stand at Lincoln Hall on September 18 & 19. Tickets for both shows are going on sale this Friday (8/3) at noon CST. All dates are listed below.

Dylan Baldi and co. recently released their first live album, Live at Grog Shop, recorded at their hometown venue during an April 5 performance. Though physical versions of the record are now sold out, you can still stream and/or download (in exchange for your email address) the album HERE.

All Cloud Nothings dates and a video of them playing "No Future / No Past" at Grog Shop are below...

Continue reading "Cloud Nothings playing shows before Pygmalion, including two at Lincoln Hall "

photos by Chase Turner and James Richards IV, words by Parker Langvardt

Wild Flag / Sleigh Bells
Wild Flag
Cloud Nothings
Sleigh Bells

Day 2 of the 2012 Pitchfork Music Festival happened on Saturday (7/14) with sets from Grimes, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Hot Chip, Sleigh Bells, Nicolas Jaar and more. We've already got pictures of day 2 up on BrooklynVegan, and here's another set of pics for BV Chicago.

I began my Saturday at the Blue Stage for The Atlas Moth, whose bluesy doom was an appropriate fit for the grey weather we had early on at the fest. Vocalist and guitarist Stavros Giannopoulos flashed a friendly peace sign that contrasted the aggression of his high, crackling scream. The interweaving riffs of the three guitarists give a lively edge to the band's slow, doomy rhythms. They were later joined by Chicago jazz trumpeter Jaimie Branch, who previously lent her skills to a track on The Atlas Moth's 2011 album An Ache For the Distances, and de facto Chicago rock saxophonist Bruce Lamont of Yakuza and Bloodiest. Lamont also performed with The Atlas Moth at SXSW 2012, and just last week contributed to The Black Lips' performances at The Empty Bottle and West Fest.

Cloud Nothings started on the cheerier end of their 2012 album Attack On Memory opening with "Fall In" and following with "Stay Useless". The rain began after "Separation," and it was down-pouring by the noisy bridge of "Wasted Days" a couple songs later. The stage hands covered the floor monitors with tarps before the PA system was shut off entirely, leaving the band jamming at stage volume. When frontman Dylan Baldi went to sing and found his mic off, the crowd took over the chant of "I thought I would be more than this" before Cloud Nothings closed out their set. They seemed disappointed, but great set nonetheless.

The sky had cleared by the time Bradford Cox took the stage as Atlas Sound, decked out in a straw hat, white face paint and a harmonica hanging angularly from his neck. Like most Atlas Sound shows, it was just Bradford and his acoustic guitar on stage, but he creates layers of sound with the loop and effect pedals that he runs it through.

The rain picked up again for Liturgy, who have disintegrated from a black metal quartet into a guitar duo backed by programmed drums. This was not the kind of set that you casually walked away from; it either captivated or repelled. The bizarre electronic drum tones might have fit better with dance music, but instead followed chunky, mechanical rhythms which usually synced up well, but lacked the dynamics that used to be provided by live drummer Greg Fox.. At one point, frontman Hunter Hunt Hendrix gave a solo vocal performance that involved him looping his voice into a strange, twisted chant, which stood in contrast to the howling and yelping scream he produced during the rest of the set.

The sun made its final return by the time Flying Lotus began his set. He spun bits of A$AP Rocky, a sped up Schoolboy Q, and the beat to "Niggas in Paris," mixed with pieces of his own abstract recordings. He was joined mid-set by rapper and Brainfeeder label mate Azizi Gibson, who also played the Brainfeeder showcase that night.

After a long set up and some volume issues with the PA, Nicolas Jaar and his live band began creating a swell of noise before settling into a cool electronic R&B groove. Though some of the band's mics were too quiet, the set was still enjoyable.

Back at the Blue Stage, Schoolboy Q walked on stage and yelled "Pitchfork, what it fuckin' do?" He later made a comment about being faded, a mental state fans might have expected from the lyrics of "Hands On the Wheel," which was heard during both his and Flying Lotus' sets. Many of his songs work in a party setting, but there is a dark sense to it. He made sure to keep the energy up, jumping and yelling more aggressively than heard in his recordings.

Hardcore fans of Godspeed You! Black Emperor had camped out in front of the Green Stage for a couple hours prior to their set, though it was still possible to get a good spot, about as far back as the sound booth, fifteen or so minutes before they began. The proximity of the stages made it easy to catch any artist for an acceptable amount of time, yet there was very little bleeding of sound between stages.

Godspeed spent the first several minutes of their set focusing on one note, working intently on expanding it slowly by creating noise that inched up toward harmonizing notes. After a careful build, the strings broke out into a dark Eastern European melody. When the first song ended, the silence was eerie, like a cease-fire in a war zone. The often sepia imagery projected behind them reinforced the seriousness of their set, at one point showing sped up smoke stacks spewing vapor and particles into the atmosphere. Having seen their other project Thee Silver Mount Zion Memorial Orchestra earlier this year, the instrumental Godspeed seemed to be more apocalyptic and bleak. Both bands are very critical in a post-modern way, but the lyrics in Silver Mount Zion provide a sense of hope, in that there are other humans aware of the world's problems. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is more like the soundtrack to the human race destroying itself.

Pics from day 1 are HERE. More from day 2 are below...

Continue reading "#P4K Festival 2012 pics & review (part 4) - Grimes, Nicolas Jaar, Psychic Paramount, Liturgy, Youth Lagoon, Danny Brown & more"

Sleigh Bells @ Terminal 5 in February (NYC) (more by Chris La Putt)

Pygmalion Music Festival, set to take place at various venues throughout Champaign-Urbana from September 27-29, have just added a ton of new acts to the lineup. These additions include Sleigh Bells, Best Coast, Laetitia Sadier, Eternal Summers, Hundred Waters, Night Beds, and more. An updated version can be found below.

Some of these acts have already been assigned to venues, like Sleigh Bells, who will kick off the festival with a performance at The Canopy Club on September 27. Dirty Projectors play the Krannert Center for the Performing Arts on September 28, and later that night you can catch Best Coast at The Canopy Club. On September 29, Grizzly Bear and Dinosaur Jr. will headline a full day of music on two stages in Downtown Champaign. Many more shows are TBA.

Laetitia Sadier, one of the fest's many headliners, is set to release her second solo LP, Silencio, on July 24 via Drag City. The Stereolab member recently shared the album's first single "Find Me the Pulse of the Universe," which you can check out HERE. Before hitting Pygmalion, Sadier will play Schubas on September 15. Tickets go on sale this Friday (6/15) at noon CST. Full tour TBA.

An updated lineup for the 2012 Pygmalion Music Festival is below...

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The 2012 Pygmalion Music Festival is set to take place from September 27-29 at various venues throughout Champaign-Urbana. They've just announced their initial lineup of Grizzly Bear, Dinosaur Jr., Cloud Nothings, Tennis, Frankie Rose, Owen, Willis Earl Beal, Lotus Plaza, Julia Holter, Lord Huron, Oh No Oh My, Big Freedia, Craft Spells, Zeus, My Jerusalem, and more. Current lineup below. Early Bird passes go on sale tomorrow (May 9) at 10AM CST.

Continue reading "Pygmalion Music Festival 2012 - initial lineup (Grizzly Bear, Dinosaur Jr., Cloud Nothings, Tennis, Frankie Rose, Owen, Willis Earl Beal, Lotus Plaza, Julia Holter & more)"

photos by Zach Pollack, words by Parker Langvardt

Cloud Nothings @ Schubas on 4/6/2012
Cloud Nothings

When I was in my teens, the term "power-pop" had a bad connotation. Looking back on it, the issue seems to be that I hadn't heard any authentic or creative power-pop. It's not necessarily a genre I see myself getting into, but A Classic Education and Cloud Nothings both do it justice, though Cloud Nothings have graduated to a darker, more punk-oriented sound.

A Classic Education's peppy style got textural with Giulia Mazza's keyboard and Luca Mazzieri's expressive and occasionally quickly-strummed guitar. Drummer Federico Oppi played with aggressive energy, slamming so hard on the snare drum during the most intense sections that his sticks visibly pushed down into the head of the drum. Paul Pieretto's bass playing was melodic, with stylish slides and bends. The last moments of their set had a hardly-contained wildness to it, with Mazzieri and singer Jonathan Clancy dancing around the stage, strumming their guitars.

Cloud Nothings opened with the youthful anthem "Stay Useless," one of the lighter songs from 2012's excellent Attack on Memory, which was the focus of their set. Next was "Fall In," the chorus of which is very reminiscent of early 90s pop-punk. They flowed into a dark, ambient build, with drummer Jayson Gerycz building the intensity from a flurry of rim clicks and drum shell tapping, to snare drum artillery fire and cymbal crashes. The guitars went from post-rock strumming to punk with dirty bends, driving a small group at the front of the room to mosh, which I've never seen happen at Schubas.

TJ Duke's grinding distorted bass gave "Wasted Days" a kind of body that can not be felt anywhere on the record, and the band launched into the four-plus-minute bridge with a guitar solo from Joe Boyer that was accented by Dylan Baldi's alarm-like pedal manipulation. It took a dark, psychedelic turn for a while before Baldi came back in shouting, "I thought I would be more than this." The first chord of "No Future/No Past" created an indescribable eerie tension throughout my body that was twisted by the suspense leading to the chorus. They ended with two songs from their much more upbeat 2011 self-titled release.

"No Sentiment" was somewhere in there, but I was too sucked into their performance to notice when (apparently they won that war they started, whatever it was). This song stands out as the most political and least self-centered track on Attack on Memory. The lyric "no nostalgia" carries some irony due to the album's obvious grunge, pop-punk, and emo influences, as well as its "lost youth" theme. Even more so, "No Sentiment" seems to remark on the past decade of political doublespeak that has contributed to widespread apathy. Baldi doesn't seem to deny that he has been one of the many disillusioned, and I think we've all had our moments, to say the least.

Cloud Nothings are about to head off to Europe for a string of dates and will return to Chicago for Saturday (July 14) of Pitchfork Festival 2012. Head below for more pictures from their Schubas show...

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Pitchfork have just announced the initial details of their 2012 festival, taking place July 13-15 in Chicago's Union Park.

The fest's initial lineup includes: Vampire Weekend, Feist, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Hot Chip, AraabMUZIK, A$AP Rocky, the Field, Liturgy, Kendrick Lamar, Grimes, Cloud Nothings, Tim Hecker, and Willis Earl Beal (who we recently hosted at Cole's Bar). Over 30+ more acts TBA.

Tickets go on sale NEXT Friday (March 9), at noon CST.
$45 per/day or $110 for a 3-day pass.

Stay tuned for any/all lineup additions.

Feist played the Riv in November.
Grimes plays the bottle on March 14.
Cloud Nothings play Schubas on April 6.
GY! BE-related project Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra played Lincoln Hall in January.


today in Chicago
* Kosha Dillz & friends @ Reggie's Music Joint
* Clip Art, Briar Rabbit, The Sometimes Family @ Schubas
* Lawrence Peters, Grit and the Double Knit @ The Whistler
* The Nesmins, The Heat, Cut and Run @ Panchos (Free Show)
* Wally Dogger, Pinto and the Bean, Mutts, Otter Petter @ Empty Bottle (Free Show)

Stream upcoming releases from Leonard Cohen and Gotye via NPR.

Cloud Nothings have a new video for "No Future/No Past." Check it out below.

Justice have a new video for "On'n'On." Watch it below.

What else?

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Cloud Nothings @ Mercury Lounge in January (more by Graeme Flegenheimer)

Cleveland, OH's Cloud Nothings are gearing up for the release of their sophomore LP Attack on Memory, which is due to hit stores on January 24th via Carpark Records. The album was recorded by Steve Albini at his own Electrical Audio Studios this past summer. Check out Attack on Memory's lead single "No Future/No Past" via a widget below. We were able to catch the band's set at the A.V. Fest in September, where they played a bunch of these new songs for the very first time.

Cloud Nothings will return to Chicago to play Schubas on April 6th.
Tickets are on sale now.

Head below for Attack on Memory's full tracklisting, an album teaser video, and more...

Continue reading "Cloud Nothings to release a Steve Albini-produced LP, playing Schubas"

photos by Josh Darr, AoL photos & words by Zach Pollack,

Archers of Loaf
A.V. Club Fest

It was back to the blazing sun and Hideout lot for day two of the A.V. Fest last Sunday (9/11).

Maybe it was the lineup or that most had their Sunday free, but the grounds were packed with people unlike most of the previous day. I walked in about halfway through Cloud Nothings' set. They were playing new material which they just said was cut to a record here in Chicago. Their fuzzy power-pop was loved by many (including me), and made for a great kick off to the day.

Up next was Seattle, WA's much beloved Telekinesis (who have since played Austin City Limits). Michael Lerner and co. brought their infectious indie-pop to the stage, holding absolutely nothing back. Their set was dominated by cuts from this year's 12 Desperate Straight Lines, produced by Death Cab For Cutie's Chris Walla. A few songs in, Lerner held a brief Q&A sessions with the crowd. "How was it working with Chris Walla?", someone asked. "Oh great! He has the best hair in Rock n' Roll," Lerner replied.

Chicago's own progressive indie rock band and fantastic songwriters Maps & Atlases were passed the torch next. Band leader Dave Davidson has an incredibly thick, soulful voice that really carries through their technical stylings. Their collective level of musicianship awesd people at A.V. Fest like it did earlier this year at Lollapalooza 2011.

The always great Tokyo Police Club was up next. I think I had forgotten how big this band really was, as their crowd was packed tight with serious fans. With only two full length (and two EPs) to their name, the band have built a large career since 2006. Their most recent, 2010's Champ, was heavily featured in their set to much enthusiasm from the crowd.

The recently reunited Archers Of Loaf were up next. The four gentlemen entered the stage to the rabid cheers of a massive crowd. Opting to not say anything, they quietly got set and launched directly into "Audiowhore." The heavily intoxicated audience went absolutely nuts as bassist Matt Gentling said, "Thanks so much for sticking around guys." Bandleader Eric Bachmann quipped back, "Really? I think these are all different people than the rest of the day." Archers of Loaf continued to deliver with the remainder of their set. Glad to have them back.

Check out more pictures from Sunday of the A.V. Fest below (Day 1 HERE)...

Continue reading "A.V. Fest Day 2 pics & review (Archers of Loaf, Tokyo Police Club, Maps & Atlases & more)"


With the addition of Cloud Nothings, the two-day A.V. Fest lineup is finally complete! Above, are the set times and lineup for both Saturday (9/10), and Sunday (9/11).

You can win VIP tickets by visiting the A.V. Fest's new webpage to enter.

photos by Graeme Flegenheimer

Handsome Furs

Handsome Furs headlined Lincoln Hall in Chicago on 1/15 with Cloud Nothings and Oberhofer, a one-off show for the husband-wife duo as part of the annual Tomorrow Never Knows Festival. A set of pictures from the show continues below...

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