Entries tagged with: Bon Iver
As discussed, Bon Iver's Justin Vernon is releasing a new album with his other band, Volcano Choir, this year, called Repave (due out 9/3 via Jagjaguwar). After releasing two of its songs, "Byegone" and "Comrade," the band have made the album available to stream in its entirety. Listen over at NPR
Streams of "Byegone" and "Comrade" below...
by Andrew Sacher
As discussed, Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) and the guys from Collections of Colonies of Bees are releasing their new Volcano Choir album, Repave, on September 3 via Jagjaguwar. After releasing one of its tracks, "Byegone," they've now let another track loose, titled "Comrade." Like "Byegone" (and the rest of the album), the new song sees Justin not straying too far from Bon Iver, Bon Iver mode, making for a nice annex of material to that album. Check it out below.
Opening that show (and other dates on the tour) is Sylvan Esso, the new project of Mountain Man's Amelia Meath and Megafaun's Nick Sanborn. Their new 12", Hey Mami" // "Play It Right," is out now, and can be streamed below. Recommended for fans of another Justin Vernon-approved project, Polica, who have a similar knack for blending folk and electronic music.
All dates are listed, along with all song streams, below...
by Andrew Sacher
One of the more polarizing bands, as far as indie rock fans are concerned, is the Grateful Dead. But despite all the hipsters who want to make sure no one thinks they're hippies, there's a big chunk of the indie community who actually likes this band, so it's pretty cool that The National have gathered members from a bunch of great indie bands -- Vampire Weekend, The War on Drugs, Bon Iver, The Walkmen, and Kurt Vile & the Violators -- to participate in a Grateful Dead tribute album, as Relix reports. (They announced it yesterday [8/1], aka Jerry Garcia's birthday.)
Like Dark was the Night, which The National's Dessner brothers also curated, this will benefit AIDS organization Red Hot. But unlike that one, which was a compilation, this one "will hone in on a few all-star ensembles assembled for the project as well as select featured guests." The Relix article continues:
The Dessners also cite Sonic Youth's Lee Ranaldo and Yo La Tengo's Ira Kaplan as big-name indie guitarists with an affinity for the Dead who'd fit on the album. In 2012, Aaron Dessner, The Walkmen's Walter Martin and the Devendorf brothers performed with Bob Weir at benefit show held at the Dead guitarist's TRI Studios. Vampire Weekend's Chris Tomson has also performed with Weir at TRI while The War on Drugs regularly cover "Touch of Grey." As they mention in the September issue of Relix, the Dessners riffed on "Eyes of the World" for eight hours during their first jam session with Bryan Devendorf in middle school."Both Lee Ranaldo and Ira Kaplan just helped commemorate the closing of Maxwell's.
"There are all kind of corners of the musical world that are deeply influenced by the Dead that one wouldn't expect," Bryce Dessner says. "Lee Ranaldo is a crazy Deadhead. So that was part of the idea but I think it is broader than that now. Jerry Garcia was a total cat."
Onetime Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart is taking his Mickey Hart Band to Port Chester's Capitol Theatre on September 21. Tickets for that show are on sale now.
Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter is playing a few Northeast shows this year, including 9/26 at The Paramount (tickets), 10/5 at Capitol Theatre (tickets), and 10/10 at Town Hall (tickets). All dates are listed below.
Watch a video of members of The National performing with the Dead's Bob Weir in 2012, below...
Justin Vernon w/ Bon Iver in Austin in 2011 (more by Tim Griffin)
Bon Iver's Justin Vernon, who recently collaborated with Kanye West, and is also about release a new Volcano Choir album (aka his collaborative project with experimental rockers Collections of Colonies of Bees), is also working on a project with gospel group The Blind Boys of Alabama, who have been around since the 1930s. Earlier this year, he announced he'd be producing their new album, I'll Find A Way (due out 10/1 via Sony Masterworks), and it's since been revealed that he's contributing his vocals to a cover of Bob Dylan's "Every Grain of Sand" for the album. You can listen to that track now over at Pitchfork, and check out the full tracklist (which also includes collaborations with My Brightest Diamond, Sam Amidon, tUnE-yArDs, and more) below.
Speaking of Bob Dylan, his tour comes to the NYC-area for its first of five shows this week. The first show was initially supposed to happen in Bridgeport, CT on Friday (7/19) at The Ballpark at Harbor Yard with My Morning Jacket and Wilco, but that show has been moved to Bridgeport's Webster Bank Arena, and
MMJ and Wilco are no longer on the bill. UPDATE: MMJ and Wilco are still playing. Tickets for the Webster Bank Arena show are available, and all tickets purchased for the Ballpark at Harbor Yard show will be honored.
Jim James at Firefly Fest 2013 (more by Dana (distortion) Yavin)
The other NYC-area shows will go on as planned on 7/21 at Saratoga Performing Arts Center with My Morning Jacket and Wilco (tickets), 7/26 at Hoboken's Pier A Park with MMJ and Wilco (tickets), 7/27 at Jones Beach with Beck and Wilco (tickets), and 7/28 at Susquehanna Bank Center with MMJ and Wilco, which is also part of the 3-day XPoNential Music Festival in Camden (Bob Dylan tix, XPoNential Fest passes).
Dylan, Wilco and MMJ kicked off the tour towards the end of last month, and at their recent Toronto show (7/15), Wilco's Jeff Tweedy and MMJ's Jim James joined Dylan on stage for a cover of traditional song "Twelve Gates to the City" and for Dylan's own "Blowin' in the Wind." You can watch a video of the former (via Consequence of Sound), along with the setlist from that show, below.
Bob Dylan also just announced that he'll release Bootleg Series. Vol. 10: Another Self Portrait (1969-1971), a box set that collects rarities and outtakes from the Self Portrait and New Morning era, on August 27. The trailer video and tracklist for the box set are below.
Updated dates are listed, along with all videos and stuff, below...
by Andrew Sacher
As mentioned, Volcano Choir (aka Bon Iver's Justin Vernon and the members of Collections of Colonies of Bees) are releasing their sophomore album, Repave, on September 3 via Jagjaguwar. We heard a little clip of it in the album trailer, and now they've revealed the full song, titled "Byegone." From the sound of things, this is already shaping up to a stronger album than Volcano Choir's debut. Check out the new single below.
You may have already heard new Poliça track, "Tiff," that features vocals from Bon Iver's Justin Vernon. That song is from their new album, Shulamith, which will be out later this year, date TBA. That's the cover art above, you can check out the tracklist below and the lyrics to all the album's songs are up on Poliça's website. The band just released the video for "Tiff" which was directed by Nabil (Kanye, Bon Iver, James Blake) and finds singer Channy Leaneagh at odds with herself. It's intense and you can watch it below.
Maybe you caught Channy last night (6/10) at Mercury Lounge where she made a surprise appearance with Marijuana Deathsquads (like we said she would) which also featured both of Poliça's two drummers. Did you go to that show? How was it?
Poliça, who also just played Governors Ball, will next visit NYC opening for The xx at their recently-announced show at Radio City Music Hall on September 23. Tickets go on presale Wednesday (6/12) at 10 AM and the password is "coexist."
All Poliça tour dates are listed, along with the "Tiff" video and album tracklist, below.
by Andrew Sacher
Justin Vernon w/ Bon Iver at Angel Orensanz in 2012 (more by Fred Pessaro)
Volcano Choir (aka Bon Iver's Justin Vernon and the members of experimental band Collections of Colonies of Bees) have announced that they'll release the followup to their 2009 debut, Unmap, this year. The new album is called Repave, and it's due out on September 3 via Jagjaguwar. The band just revealed an album trailer for the new record which features about two and a half minutes of new music, and it's sounding like some pretty great stuff. Check it out below.
Volcano Choir will also be supporting the new album with a short North American tour after its release which hits NYC on September 14 at Webster Hall. Tickets for the NYC show
are not on sale yet, but check Ticketmaster for updates. go on sale Friday (5/31) at noon with an AmEx presale starting Wednesday (5/29) at noon.
All dates are listed, along with the album trailer, artwork and tracklist, below...
The Blind Boys of Alabama @ Town Hall, 5/17/2013 (via @danatrixieflynn Instagram)
The Blind Boys of Alabama tour hit NYC on Friday (5/17) at Town Hall with Betty LaVette. The group have just announced they've signed with Sony Masterworks who will release their new album this fall. "We are thrilled to be on our new label, and we have a real surprise on the way with this new album. I think it's the coolest thing we've ever done," says 80-something singer Jimmy Carter who is the last original member still touring with The Blind Boys. That surprise, or at least one of them, is that Justin Vernon of Bon Iver will produce the album. Special guests are promised too and we'll just have to wait to find out what's in store.
In the meantime, Blind Boys of Alamaba's tour rolls on. All dates are listed below.
Apparently it's NYC Outdoor Free Show Announce Day. Following Hudson River Rocks, Seaport Music Festival and 4Knots updates comes the 2013 River to River Festival line-up. This year's fest runs from June 15 - July 14 and includes music, dance, theater, visual art, film and "unique participatory experiences" across a number of outdoor stages. Among this years' free events:
The annual Bang on a Can Marathon which happens on 6/16 at Michael Schimmel Center for the Arts and features Bang on a Can All-Stars, Asphalt Orchestra, Alarm Will Sound, Brooklyn Youth Chorus, Talk Normal, Talea, Shara Worden, Yungchen Llamo, and more.Again, all River to River events are free and open to the public. The entire 2013 line-up is listed, with details, below...
Laurie Anderson will perform two nights at Rockefeller Park on June 18 & 19 with guests Gerry Leonard, Doug Wieselman, Eyvind Kang and others TBA.
Ecstatic Summer 2013 which happens at Brookfield Place Plaza on June 29 & 30. Members of Bon Iver, Mantra Percussion, the National, yMusic, Plastic Ono Band and more will perform commissioned works by Greg Saunier (Deerhoof), Dave Douglas, Susie Ibarra and Seth Olinsky.
So Percussion and Joshua Light Show team up on July 13 at Michael Schimmel Center for the Arts
The legendary Leon Russell will perform at Rockefeller Park on July 10.
There's also a presentation of of Foetus frontman JG Thirlwell's "cinema for the ears" album, Manorexia: Dinoflagellate Bloom at Tribeca Cinemas on July 11.
Stone Roses / How to Destroy Angels / Johnny Marr
Friday's lineup was teeming with such line-jumpers, performing with various degrees of laurel-resting. Early in the day came the Shouting Matches, a shambolic blues-esque outfit whose sales pitch is that it includes Justin Vernon of Bon Iver. The group took almost a half-hour for sound check, and its set was almost as loose. Mr. Vernon, such a precise and processed singer in Bon Iver, was here far more at ease, pushing his vocals no harder than the amiable songs demanded.There was also Divine Fits (Britt Daniel of Spoon + Dan from Wolf Parade), Deathfix (Brendan Canty of Fugazi on drums), Grinderman with Nick Cave, Johnny Marr of the Smiths, Trent Reznor of NIN in How to Destroy Angels (who made their live debut days earlier), Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys with his band The Guantanamo School of Medicine, and more. And of course reunions and britrock galore with Blur, The Stone Roses, Sparks, and Jurassic 5 all also playing Friday. Here are our pictures from day one (which do not include Polica, but check out our instagram for a shot of Justin Vernon joining them on stage).
Later, in the dance-centric Sahara tent, Dog Blood performed a loud but not thunderous set. It's a collaborative project of Skrillex and Boys Noize, and does not quite live up to Skrillex's typical punishment or Boys Noize's characteristic exuberance.
Day One pics continue at BV Chicago and below...
by Andrew Sacher
It's probably not news to fans of Bon Iver's Justin Vernon that he is a man of many collaborations. Just ask Kanye West, James Blake, St. Vincent, or the guys in Collections of Colonies of Bees, to name a few.
Another of his many collaborative projects is The Shouting Matches, a blues rock duo which features Justin on guitar/vocals and Brian Moen (of Peter Wolf Crier and Laarks) on drums. They formed pre-Bon Iver, but regrouped this year (and the lineup now includes Phil Cook, who played with Justin in DeYarmond Edison and is also in Megafaun) for their first official full length, Grownass Man. The album's rooted in classic American blues but played with the distorted take on that rich history that became popular with groups like Cream and Led Zeppelin, and has been revived pretty strongly recently by guys like Jack White and The Black Keys. Grownass Man is due out on April 16 via Middle West, but you can listen to it in its entirety now on NPR.
The Shouting Matches' only upcoming dates scheduled at the moment are the two Coachellas that happen this weekend and the one after that. The Shouting Matches play on the Fridays (April 12 & 19), so if you're headed to that festival, it's worth checking out their set.
Watch a video of the band performing live as a duo in 2010 below...
Even though The Flaming Lips have a new album, The Terror, whose release date got pushed back to April 16, the band are still releasing videos from last year's The Flaming Lips and Heady Fwends. Like the new clip for "Ashes in Air." In it, an eye-headed alien finds a baby (who looks a little like Bon Iver's Justin Vernon who sings on the track), visits some hippies (naked, of course) and takes the little guy back to his spaceship for dinner. Check it out below.
Charleston, South Carolina musician Alex Collier records modern classical/church organ renditions of pop songs with The Jingle Punks Hipster Orchestra and they released their album, King of Instruments, this past October which featured covers of Bon Iver, Frank Ocean, Kanye West, Vampire Weekend, Usher, Coldplay, and others. The album was recorded in a church with Alex on organ anmd we've got two videos of them performing Frank Ocean's "Bad Religion," and Bon Iver's "Perth," which are making their premieres in this post. You can watch them below.
by Klaus Kinski and Tig Notaro
Tig Notaro is a living super hero and I was so thrilled that she took the time to do a Top 10 for us. Even though Tig was previously an LA-based comedian, over the years we here at BV have admired her and always did what we could to trumpet her greatness to you, the loyal BV reader. We even managed to get her onto a BV-SxSW show back in 2010.
More recently, perhaps you caught her at The Dave Hill Explosion at the UCB Theater back on November 29, 2012? Or perhaps you caught her at the Bell House on November 17, 2012 when she brought her live podcast Professor Blastoff to a live, sold out audience? If anything, I sincerely hope you ponied up and bought her Louis CK-released live album which is absolutely brilliant, heart-wrenching, and totally inspiring. Oh, but just a heads up; Tig Notaro: Live is no longer available on Louis CK's website! Now you gotta procure that shizz on iTunes, brah. Tig is spending a lot more time in NYC these days, so keep your eyes on BV for whatever Tig news comes our way. In the meantime, enjoy her eclectic, not-necessarily-music-oriented Top 10 list, below.
Most Wanted autograph
The Insane Clown Posse is suing the FBI because "Juggalos were unjustly called a gang in its 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment."
Speaking of juggalos, you know that Throbbing Gristle Nico tribute we posted about? Genesis P. Orridge has some qualms with it being called a TG release and has gotten in a Twitter fight with Chris Carter over it. Pitchfork has all the gory details.
How was your Yom Kippur? Did you fast? Drink coffee? Gothamist editor Jake Dobkin spent his holiday live blogging his experience with caffeine suppositories.
Honey Boo Boo will be (in your) home for the holidays.
Voxtrot's Ramesh is funding a new album via Kickstarter.
Grizzly Bear scores #7 on the Billboard chart (beat only by Pink, Kanye, The Killers, Dave Matthews, Little Big Town and the unstoppable Carly Rae Jepsen).
Coming soon to a cool coffee table near you: '80s punk photo book We Got Power! Till then check out our photo gallery excerpts.
CMJ is three weeks away. We're still tired from SXSW!
More stuff below...
Bon Iver / Frank Ocean @ Angel Orensanz 9/24/2012
Following their respective Radio City and ATP NY appearances, Bon Iver and Frank Ocean played the intimate, ornate LES space Angel Orensanz last night (9/24), a surprise RSVP-only affair presented by Vitamin Water/Fader. The lines for the show wrapped around the block and only a fraction of people who RSVPed actually got in, but those who did were treated to hour-long sets from both performers.
Bon Iver is taking a break from touring for a while after nearly two years of constant activity, but recent reports of his retirement appear to be greatly exaggerated. We previously posted a picture Frank Ocean's setlist. More pictures from the show, below...
Bon Iver at Radio City - 9/20/12 (via Bon Iver Instragram)
Bon Iver, who just wrapped up a four-night run at Radio City has been revealed as one of the two acts for the last show in FADER and Vitamin Water's #uncapped series, which happens in NYC TONIGHT (9/24) at Angel Orensanz (172 Norfolk St). Spots are very limited and RSVP is open now. If you've been following along, you know that for these shows, FADER and Vitamin Water partner two different artists together. Any guesses on who the other act will be? (hint: Frank Ocean who played ATP Friday night)
The archive of Bon Iver's Radio City show from this past Friday (9/21) is now streaming at the Bowery Presents YouTube Channel for the next 48 hours.
The Uncapped flier is below...
by Andrew Sacher
Bon Iver at Radio City - 9/21/12 (via BrooklynVegan Instagram)
"Cool!" exclaimed Justin Vernon, as 6,000 or so people tremendously applauded for the third (9/21) of four Bon Iver shows at Radio City, in the same awkwardly humble manner he said, "sweet hookup," when he won Best New Artist at the 2011 Grammys. As massive as Bon Iver continues to get, Justin's sense of modesty never seems to fade. He even still prefaces "The Wolves" with asking the crowd to join in on "what might've been lost" (I think by now it's safe to assume they would regardless). I guess it's what they say: you can take the boy out of the abandoned cabin the woods, but you can't take the abandoned cabin the woods out of the boy. (They say that, right?)
From the opening notes of "Perth," the band's atmospheres took over Radio City, and in typical Bon Iver fashion, their command over the audience didn't let up once throughout the show. Their pre-encore set included all of 2011's excellent Bon Iver, Bon Iver, with the only For Emma, Forever Ago song being "Creature Fear" (whose reworked live version fits best with the newer material), and the rest of that album's inclusions were saved for the encore. My personal highlight of the show was "Woods," the only song of the set I've never personally seen them perform before (and not a song they play often). Justin performed the song solo with just a mic and vocal manipulations. And like James Blake, who is perhaps most directly influenced by "Woods" than any other Bon Iver song, Justin did a pretty great job of keeping the room dead silent on those pauses, save for a few "woohoos!" here and there.
In this fast moving internet world, excitement for bands tends to rise and fall pretty quickly, and if it's been a while since they've released anything, tour announcements will inspire comments like "people still listen to this band?" We need constant reminders that a band is good, create absurd expectations for most of them, and will jump at any opportunity to decide an artist we love isn't good anymore. When Bon Iver decide to stroll through NYC for four Radio City shows over a year after their initial Bon Iver, Bon Iver tour brought them here, they continue to show that they don't fit this formula. The excitement felt throughout their entire show parallels that of the one felt upon first discovering their music.
Bon Iver's final night of the Radio City run is tonight (9/22) with Polica opening. (Folk singer Doug Paisley opened last night.) Tickets for tonight's show are still available. If you missed last night's show, did you stream it online? If you missed that stream, it will rebroadcast for 48 hours, starting this Monday (9/24) at the Bowery Presents Youtube channel. In the meantime, some fan-filmed videos and the setlist from last night's show are below...
Bon Iver @ Radio City Music Hall, 9/20/2012 (via @itsvman)
We are on night three of Bon Iver's four-night stand at Radio City and you can still get tickets. If you're stuck at home (or don't live in the NYC area) but want to watch, tonight's show is part of Free Music Week at Fuse who, in partnership with Bowery Presents, are streaming it live via the Bowery Presents YouTube page. The setlists from Bon Iver's first two nights with Anais Mitchell (9/19 and 9/20) are below. Tonight's show is with Doug Paisley and Saturday's (9/22) is with Polica.
Radio City is especially busy this week. In addition to the shows mentioned above, there's Goyte on Tuesday (9/25) (he also plays Williamsburg Park on Thursday [9/27]), AVICII on Wednesday and Thursday (9/26-27) and Jack White next weekend (9/29-30).
In other streaming news, Bowery Presents will be streaming Thursday's Two Door Cinema Club show (9/27) at Music Hall of Williamsburg through their YouTube Page.
Justin Vernon wants this image on his body
We already posted lots of posts today. Here's some more, and some reminders too...
We interviewed Jack Tatum of Wild Nothing.
Duo AlunaGeorge made a video for their awesome, recently released single"Your Drums, Your Love" which you can watch below.
Out now on paperback (which I noticed via an ad on this site): Will Oldham on Bonnie 'Prince' Billy.
Check out pictures from this past weekend's A.V. Fest / Hideout Block Party (and here).
Can you beat Swans' Michael Gira at a staring contest? Try it below (via Pitchfork).
more stuff below...
Bon Iver in TX in 2011 (more by Tim Griffin)
Bon Iver are on a tour now which comes to NYC this week for a previously discussed four-night run at Radio City. The run includes shows at the Manhattan theater on Wednesday (9/19) and Thursday (9/20) with Anais Mitchell, Friday (9/21) with Doug Paisley, and Saturday (9/22) with Polica. Tickets for all four shows are still available (despite the first two being sold out for a while), and we're also giving away another pair of tickets to the Friday (9/21) show. A list of updated dates and contest details are below.
You can also watch the Friday (9/21) show from the comfort of your own home as it streams live on the Bowery Presents YouTube channel. The trailer video for the stream is below.
In related news, Justin Vernon's personal trainer Jeff Rogers, who has a fitness DVD which features Justin, will be bringing his workout program to NYC while Bon Iver is here. He'll present his "Pack the Park" program on September 21 and 22 at Urban Plaza at Trump in Hudson Square (246 Spring St.) from 2-3 PM. Admission is free but registration is required and space is limited (50 people each day). The flier for the event is below.
An updated list of dates, video, and that event flier are below.
Polica at Lollapalooza 2012 (more by James Richards IV)
As mentioned, Polica signed to Mom + Pop and reissued their debut LP, Give You The Ghost, on the label earlier this month along with a bonus EP of remixes by Gardens & Villa, Exitmusic, and others. You can now stream all of those remixes below. Also below is the official video for "Dark Star" and a video of them performing it on Jimmy Kimmel.
As mentioned, Polica will be touring this year and hitting NYC on October 6 at Webster Hall with Gardens & VIlla. But you'll be able to catch Polica in NYC even sooner than that when they open for their friends Bon Iver at Radio City on September 22. The Radio City show is one of four shows at the venue for Bon Iver, the first two (9/19 & 9/20) of which are with Anais Mitchell and the third (9/21) of which is with Doug Paisley. Tickets for both Polica shows in NYC are still available and we're also giving away a pair to the Radio City show.
A list of updated dates, streams, and videos are below.
Bon Iver in Switzerland, July 19 2012 (via @boniver)
As you know, Bon Iver has four shows coming up at Radio City Music Hall, two sold out ones with Anais Mitchell (9/19 and 9/20), and two that were more recently added without openers. Well, 9/22 still has no opener, but it was announced that Canadian folk-country singer-songwriter Doug Paisley will be opening on 9/21. Tickets are still on sale for 9/21 and 9/22 and we have a pair of tickets you can win to the 9/22 show (the one with no opener announced yet). Contest details and all Doug Paisley tour dates are below.
In other DeYarmond Edison-related news, Megafaun played the Newport Folk Festival over the weekend (check out a pics and streams here), and are about to kick off a European tour with Damien Jurado. Also, Field Report (aka Chris Porterfield) recently made their NYC-debut at Mercury Lounge while on out with the Counting Crows, a tour that continues through August 10. All dates are listed below.
Tickets to the two just-added Bon Iver Radio City Music Hall shows (9/21 and 9/22) go on presale this morning (6/28) at 10AM. (Password: "Holocene") Good luck. Regular on-sale starts Friday (6/29) at 10AM.
In other news, you may or may not have been aware that Justin Vernon designed his own line of shoes. LA Times recently took the time to review the shoe. Here's what they had to say:
And then there's the bone. Yes, the fish bone that covers the entire toe, and makes it look as though you're a messy grizzly bear without the manners or wherewithal to clean up after yourself. Who, it must be asked, walks around with fishbones on their toes? Fishermen? No right-minded man would take a single step without kicking that carcass back into the lake.
But, then, no right-minded man would go fishing in these, not even to get from the parking lot to the boat. They're salmon, and they'll get dirty. So you wear them when you drive into town on Saturday night. Perhaps, but, well, there are fish carcasses on your feet, and the minute you march into the bar you'll be pegged as a folkie by the cowboy-booted drunks.
Vernon, who is currently working on a new style of galoshes that he believes will add "a little pizazz" to morning wades through Wisconsin mud, should be admired for his first attempt at a shoe -- even if they're nowhere near as experimental as No Age's Ed Templeton-designed sneakers for Emerica. And set alongside Kanye West's new NIke Air Yeezy 2, which came out on Saturday, well, the differences are obvious. West's are brash. Vernon's are pink.