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Laetitia Sadier / Deradoorian
Former Stereolab singer Laetitia Sadier began a tour in Brooklyn at Baby's All Right this past Friday (9/11) and sounded as enchanting as ever. Opening was her tourmate Deradoorian, whose otherworldly new album The Expanding Flower Planet came out a few weeks ago. She was introduced by none other than actor/comedian Pauly Shore, as you can see in the pictures in this post.
Speaking of, Pauly Shore just announced a NYC show for October 4 at Highline Ballroom. Tickets are on sale now.
Opening the Baby's show was Operator (not to be confused with Dan Boeckner's band Operators). More pictures below...
by Andrew Sacher
Angel Deradoorian, former Dirty Projectors member and current Avey Tare's Slasher Flicks member, released her first album as Deradoorian, The Expanding Flower Planet, today via Anticon. I don't usually like using the term "world music," but Deradoorian really does pull influences from all over the globe for this album. It's sometimes progressive, sometimes psychedelic, but always strangely accessible. It's a wild listen, and you can dig in for yourself below (via NY Times).
Before that though, Deradoorian will celebrate the new album with a release show in NYC on August 28 at Trans-Pecos with Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe (aka Lichens) and Image Man. Tickets for that show are on sale now too. All dates are listed below.
Deradoorian also features on the new single from Boots (aka Jordan Asher, ex-Blonds), who co-produced and co-wrote a lot of BEYONCE and has worked with FKA twigs and Run the Jewels. The song's called "AQUARIA" and will appear on the album of the same name, due out November 13 via Columbia.
Listen to that, with the Deradoorian tour dates and album stream, below...
Former Stereolab singer Laetitia Sadier will be touring later this year, kicking off her East-West-and-back trek in NYC at Baby's All Right on September 11. Making for an enticing double bill is Deradoorian, Angel Deradoorian's new project with her sister, Arlene. Tickets for the Baby's show go on sale Friday (7/10) at 10 AM. All tour dates are listed below.
Sadier's most recent release is 2014's Something Shines which doesn't stray too far from the metronomic underground of her old band's sound. You can check out a new video for "Oscuridad" and stream "Quantum Soup" from that LP below.
by Bill Pearis
When not running Belgian label Freaksville, Benjamin Schoos makes lush Franco-style pop on his own. His 2012 album, China Man Vs China Girl, featured guest appearances from Laetitia Sadier, Chrissie Hynde, and Ride's Mark Gardner. He's back with a new EP, Une Dernière Danse, on April 29 and should appeal to fans of Sebastien Tellier, Benjamin Biolay and Stereolab. The EP's title track is another duet with Sadier and a bouncy pop jem in its own right. We're premiering the video which was filmed in the English seaside getaway of Brighton, albeit in the off-season which adds a certain shabby charm. Watch it below.
The EP also features an appearance from April March and you can check out cover art, track list, and the new video, below...
Tyler, the Creator's album, Wolf, leaked and in response the Odd Future rapper has posted it on OFWGKTA's official Soundcloud. Featuring guest appearances from Laetitia Sadier, Erykah Badu and more, you can stream it below.
You may have already heard some of it at Tyler's show at Music Hall of Williamsburg last weekend.
UK music magazine Uncut put out their list of the top 75 albums of 2012. The top ten leans pretty heavy on long-running '60s/'70s survivors who put out new albums this year, but plenty of the list-topping regulars from newer acts are on there too, along with a few interesting surprises (Sun Araw, M Geddes Gengras & the Congos!). You can check out the full list below.
by Klaus Kinski (and Fred Armisen)
Fred meditates on his top ten...
In my tenure as BV's tallest and prettiest contributor, I've noticed that one of the most polarizing figures we mention on here is the great Fred Armisen. It's like, any time we mention this dude all the negative-Nancys crawl out of the wood work. Oh well... You know what they say ('they' being people who use terrible quips to express themselves); "Haters gonna hate." The reality is, Fred Armisen rules. He's one of my most favorite, funny, uber-talented oddballs in the biz. He's consistently funny on SNL, no matter how abysmal the sketch may be. His show Portlandia (which returns January 4th 2013 on IFC) is one of the funniest shows to hit the gogglebox in recent memory. And he keeps it real with small-venue residencies and club shows. Fred recently hipped us to the top 10 records of 2012 that floated his boat.
In addition to Portlandia's imminent return (many guest stars included), and the Portlandia book which is currently available, don't forget the Fred is hosting the Snow Ball Ball at the Bell (Ball) House on Sunday December 16. The show also features guest DJs Tunde Adebimpe (from TV On the Radio), Peter Hale (from Here We Go Magic) and more!
Check out Fred's 'Best of' list, below...
by Bill Pearis
Charming, danceable Seattle trio Orca Team have already been through NYC twice this year, not to mention just about everywhere else in North American and the UK, but have just announced another North American tour than can only be described as massive where the band will criss-cross the continent twice between now and Thanksgiving, with two separate visits to the Big Apple.
The band will open for Laetitia Sadier on her upcoming tour (a smart pairing) that includes two stops in NYC: Mercury Lounge on September 21 (tix) and Knitting Factory on September 22 (tix). Orca Team will then be back around CMJ, with a show at Muchmore's on October 18 and the Happy Happy Birthday to Me label showcase at Public Assembly on October 20. All tour dates are listed at the bottom of this post.
Orca Team's terrific new album, Restraint, is one of 2012's underheard gems and you can stream it below via Spotify. And they're a great live band too, so do try and make it one of the dates below. Chances are they are playing near you.
West Coast janglers Craft Spells are heading East next month to play Cincinatti's Midpoint Music Festival (September 27 - 29) which also features the likes of Grizzly Bear, The Walkmen, Dirty Projectors, Sleigh Bells and many more. Tickets for the fest are still available and the whole line-up is at the bottom of this post.
Before the festival, Craft Spells will be in NYC for a show at Glasslands on September 24 with new new romantics Ice Choir. Tickets for that show are on sale now.
You can stream Craft Spells' new-ish EP, Gallery, plus check out the whole Midpoint Music Fest line-up, below.
Mission of Burma @ MHOW in January (more by Erik Erikson)
today in NYC
* Matuto @ Barbes
* RJD2 @ Webster Hall
* Opera on Tap @ Barbes
* Jupiter @ Cameo Gallery
* Maxwell @ Prudential Center
* Zeus, ARMS @ Mercury Lounge
* Lincoln Center Out Of Doors
* Jackson Browne @ Beacon Theatre
* Rob Lewis and Friends @ Joe's Pub
* Easy Tells, Minerva Lions Joe's Pub
* Blood Diamonds, LE1F, Gobby @ Glasslands
* Judah Friedlander @ Caronlines on Broadway
* Wildlife Control, Cultfever @ Mercury Lounge
* AU, Tu Fawning, Port St. Willow @ Glasslands
* Shanir Ezra Blumenkranz - ABRAXAS @ The Stone
* Billy Ocean, Maxi Priest @ Hammerstein Ballroom
* Old Monk, Please Dept., Lost Gloves @ Spike Hill
* Janeane Garofalo, Todd Barry @ EastVille Comedy Club
* Kunal Prakash, Steve Gunn, Dj Tax The Rich @ Zebulon
* Work Drugs, Cookies, Dead Leaf Echo @ Knitting Factory
* Brandt Brauer Frick, Ef Es VII / 2 @ Santos Party House
* Josh Wink, Cajmere, Chris Love, AB Logic @ Highline Ballroom
* Jonny Fritz and The In-Laws, The Extraordinaires @ Union Pool
* Coldplay, Marina & The Diamonds, Emeli Sande @ The IZOD Center
* Wild Flag, Mission of Burma, Ted Leo @ Prospect Park Bandshell
* Gold Streets, Passenger Peru, Pow Wow!, Libel, The Oats @ Pianos
* Splash, Friends, Janka Nabay, Helado Negro, Uumans @ 285 Kent Ave
* Primitive Weapons, Mares of Thrace, Pilgrim, Windhand @ Saint Vitus
* Artanker Convoy, Mas Ysa, Driphouse, Eric Wubbels @ Secret Project Robot
* Cy Barkley & The Way Outsiders, Bad Neighbors, Ex-humans @ Death By Audio
* Slash, Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators, Monster Truck @ Wellmont Theatre
* Riverwild, Dead Stars, The Dead Roses, Derrick and the Black Sea @ Cake Shop
* Aesop Rock, Rob Sonic, DJ Big Wiz, Edison, Dark Time Sunshine @ Irving Plaza
* Old Abram Brown, Wishes & Thieves, Dahm of Phantom Family Halo @ Rock Shop
* Guerilla Toss, Dubknowdub, Skimask, BEES///, Eartheater @ Big Snow Buffalo Lodge
* Fiasco, Speedy Ortiz, Butter The Children, Mail the Horse, Porches @ Shea Stadium
* C Donte, Love Assassin, My Pet Dragon, Bern & The Brights, Ale Potosnak @ City Winery
* The B Street Band (Springsteen tribute) @ Rocks Off Concert Cruise - The Star of Palm Beach
* The Sons & Heirs (Smiths & Morrissey tribute), Green Shirt (Tribute to Elvis Costello), DJ Spencer Cobrin @ Littlefield
* Graveyard Lovers, Nice Fellas, Mia Riddle & Her Band, Paul Jefferson, Patrick Bower (benefit for the High School for Public Service Youth Farm) @ The Bell House
Wild Flag, Mission of Burma and Ted Leo play a free Celebrate Brooklyn! show in Prospect Park this evening which is pretty hard to pass up. Be on the lookout for the commemorative Wild Flag/MoB split 7" which will only be sold at this show.
Late night fun: new 4AD signee Blood Diamonds plays a post-midnight show at Glasslands (doors at 11:30 PM) with Le1f and Gobby. Tickets are still available. Maybe you want to head to that after seeing Friends, Splash and Janka Nabay at 285 Kent next door.
This week's new movie offerings include the lukewarm-reviewed remake of Total Recall and indie dramedy (and maybe not a date movie) Celeste and Jesse Forever which you may have seen at our free preview earlier this week. "The Room" screens at Sunshine at midnight.
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Happy birthday to Metallica's James Hetfield (49) and crooner Tony Bennett (86).
Former Stereolab singer Laetitia Sadier has a new video for "Rule of the Game" from her new album, Silencio, which you can watch below.
Also below is the very cool video for "All That We've Become" from enigmatic (and hard to Google) UK artist Society. If you dig Portishead check it out for sure.
And Sabbath Assembly have a creepy new video for their track "In the time of Abaddon II" which you can watch below.
Laetitia Sadier at Terminal 5 in 2011 (more by Vincent Cornelli)
Laetitia Sadier (of Stereolab) is gearing up to release her second solo album, SIlencio, on July 24 via Drag City. Earlier this month, we posted an MP3 from that album which you can grab HERE. When we posted that, we mentioned that Laetitia will be touring North America this fall. The dates of that tour hadn't been announced at the time, but since we last spoke, they've been revealed and include two NYC shows. She'll play Mercury Lounge on September 21 and Knitting Factory on September 22. Tickets for the Mercury Lounge show and the Knitting Factory show went on sale today.
Laetitia has unveiled another track from the album, "There Is A Price To Pay For Freedom (And It Isn't Security)," which you can download above. A list of all of her tour dates is below...
POP Montreal is returning to Montreal this year from September 19 - 23. The initial lineup was revealed and it includes Grizzly Bear, Gang Gang Dance, David Byrne, Tim Hecker, Julia Holter, I Break Horses, Hot Snakes, Dirty Three, Mr. Muthafuckin' eXquire, Cate Le Bon, Bertrand Burgulat (!), and more. The full initial lineup is listed below and many more announcements to come. Early Bird tickets are on sale until June 30, when regular sale begins.
Meanwhile, Montreal will be getting the Ohsheaga Festival even sooner.
Initial POP Montreal lineup below...
by Bill Pearis
DOWNLOAD: Laetitia Sadier - Find Me the Pulse of the Universe (MP3)
When mentioned a while back that former Stereolab member Laetitia Sadier will release her second solo album, Silencio, on July 24 via Drag City. The album features guest appearances from Sam Prekop and her former bandmate Tim Gane. That's the cover art to the album above. Laetitia just released the first track from Silencio, "Find Me the Pulse of the Universe" and you can download it at the top of this post. It's still within her sonic wheelhouse but with a tropical rhythm that gives it new flair.
No tour dates yet, but word is Sadier will tour North America this fall.
by Bill Pearis
The Sea & Cake at Summerstage 2010 (more by Matthew Eisman)
It's not a full Sea & Cake show, but main men Sam Prekop and Archer Prewitt are playing together at Mercury Lounge on June 30 (tickets on sale Friday at noon). It's an early show (doors 7:30) and their only live date apart from a Sea & Cake show in the band's Chicago hometown on May 8. The Sea & Cake's most recent album was last year's The Moonlight Butterfly.
In related news, Sam Prekop guests on Laetitia Sadier's new solo album Silencio, which is out July 24 on Drag City. Also on the album is her former Stereolab cohort Tim Gane and former Zincs man James Elkington. No preview tracks or even cover art yet, but we do have a tracklisting for the album which you'll find below, along with those two Sea & Cake dates.
by Bill Pearis
DOWNLOAD: Razika - Eg Vetsje (MP3)
DOWNLOAD: Razika - Nytt Pa Nytt (MP3)
DOWNLOAD: Dominant Legs - Hoop of Love (MP3)
DOWNLOAD: Dominant Legs - Where We Trip the Light (MP3)
DOWNLOAD: Nurses - "Fever Dreams" (MP3)
DOWNLOAD: Tycho - "Dive" (MP3)
I guess this is the pre-CMJ edition of This Week In Indie which is a slightly less busy week than normal, though not by much. (And CMJ this year isn't the most exciting line-up I've seen for that matter, but we'll get to that next week.) In fact there's some pretty cool musical things you should be considering, so let's get into it.
As mentioned elsewhere on this site, Norway's Razika are playing Friday (10/14) at Cameo, their first-ever U.S. show, and only one for now. You may not think you need a Norwegian all-girl ska band in your life, and maybe you don't, but Razika do it really well. I wasn't expecting to like it. And really, what they do is more ska-tinged pop than actual ska. Which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. There's definitely a Lilliput/Kleenex vibe (or even Electrelane for a more modern comparison) to what they do. And the songs are crazy catchy. You can get half-price tickets ($5) if you use this link.
It's a good show all around at Cameo, with Ski Lodge whose EP I like a lot. As I've said before, it's like early Smiths meets Beach Fossils. The other band on the bill is Lips which is New Zealander Stephanie Brown who now lives in Brooklyn. I like the songs on her Bandcamp page, which are kind of laptop soul, not entirely unlike Little Dragon or, you. There's a really cute video for her song "One Not Two" at the bottom of this post.
San Francisco's Dominant Legs and tourmates Nurses are in town, playing Mercury Lounge on Friday (10/14) and Glasslands on Saturday (10/14). Dominant Legs released their debut LP, Invitation, last month on Lefse Records and it's an appealing take on effervescent '80s pop, completely with lightly funky guitars, glistening keyboards and big choruses. You can download a couple songs from Invitation at the top of this post.
As for Nurses, the Portland trio get called "psych-pop" a lot which I guess is code for "vaguely MGMT-ish" but it's the funkier side of that band and not really so much psych to my ears. There's a lot of echo on it, I guess that's psychedelic. That said, their new album Dracula is pretty catchy and danceable and is more directly comparable to fellow Portlandians Unknown Mortal Orchestra than anyone else. You can download a track at the top of this post.
And lastly, Tycho is at Music Hall of Williamsburg on Sunday (10/16). (Tickets are still available.) The Bay Area electronic artist released his new album, Drive, last week on Ghostly and I've been listening to it a lot. No doubt it owes a giant debt to Boards of Canada, more in the dreamlike synth sounds than in execution. Tracks like "Hours" (downloadable above) more blatantly danceable than BoC but it's still the kind of record you could sleep to as well. And though I no longer have a car, this would be good music behind the wheel, and not just because of the album title.
While listening to Drive, you might think that a live show might just be just a guy and a laptop, Scott Hansen has a full Tycho band that looks to be pretty good from the YouTube clips I've watched. Canada's Teen Daze are also on the bill, and blissed-out Swedes Korallreven are the DJs for the evening.
That's the major stuff for this week...though don't forget Lotion plays their first show in ten years on Monday (10/17) at Knitting Factory! More day-by-day picks are below.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12
Early show tonight at Mercury Lounge: Canadian fourpiece The Arkells whose 2008 debut was one of that year's undiscovered gems, full of hook-filled, strident heartland rock that would've done gangbusters in the '80s. (You may remember me writing about them from M for Montreal.) Their new album, Michigan Left, is out next week in Canada.
I'm ashamed to admit I haven't given The Rosebuds' new album, Loud Planes Fly Low, enough attention but I definitely like what I have heard. You can download "Woods" at the top of this post. One of the nicest bands around, The Rosebuds are always good live and if you've never seen them before, they play Bowery Ballroom tonight. Want to go for free? We have a couple of pairs of tickets you can win if you email firstname.lastname@example.org (subject: Rosebuds) right now. Include your first and last name in the email and we'll get back to the winners with instructions.
Xeno & Oaklander @ Home Sweet Home.
photos by Vincent Cornelli
Over the last five years -- since Mr. Condon began recording as Beirut, at an earnest 19 -- it has been easy to accuse him of cultural tourism, and easy to forgive him for it. Early on he was deep in his Balkan folk phase, which still defines Beirut's instrumentation, if not always the expression of its style. Later there came an infatuation with French chanson, and later still a fascination with Mexican funeral bands and electronic music.Like they did last Wednesday, Beirut & Laetitia Sadier played a show together on Terminal 5 on Thursday (the next time). Here are pictures from that show. They continue, with most of the setlist, and new tour dates, below...
Last month brought us "The Rip Tide" (Pompeii/Revolver), an album of more sustained clarity and concision than anything else in the band's catalog. (In addition to two previous full-length albums, there has been a handful of EPs.) Recorded in Brooklyn and in the Catskills, it's an album of modest self-possession, from a band known for only one of those qualities. Small wonder that the songs from the new album in Wednesday's set list -- "Vagabond" and four others, including "Santa Fe," a chirpy love note to Mr. Condon's hometown -- sounded so breezy and right. [NY Times]
OMD @ Terminal 5 in March (more by Dana (Distortion) Yavin)
As Tune-Yards starts her second of two NYC shows at LPR tonight (9/20), OMD will be beginning their first of two shows at Irving Plaza. And I don't know what is about right now and two-night stands, but Wedneday and Thursday have two Beirut shows (both shows with Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier) and two Opeth shows.Thursday and Friday bring two Wilco shows (tickets went back on sale today) and two Girls shows (who also play Other Music while they're here). Old school East Coast punks (sort of) Blondie (who cover Beirut on their new album) just played two shows at Highline Ballroom. Old school West Coast punks X begin a two night run at Irving Plaza soon, but not before the two Radiohead shows at Roseland Ballroom with Four Tet and friends go on sale, sell out and happen (though Radiohead does overlap with X's Maxwell's show). Megafaun also play two NYC shows next week, as do Mogwai with the Soft Moon. Jay-Z & Kanye West will spend
9/27 & 9/28 11/5 & 11/6 at the Izod Center in NJ. Portishead and Jeff Mangum help end September and begin October with two shows each as part of ATP in NJ. Portishead follow it up with two more shows at Hammerstein Ballroom. I think that's a good place to stop. What else?
by Bill Pearis
Happy Summer everybody. Before we get into this week's recommended shows, I hope you've been spending the week, like I have, listening obsessively to Domino Radio which has put together an incredible all-star lineup of presenters for this seven-day experiment. All the shows are archived, so go back and listen to Felt/Denim mastermind Lawrence, Primal Scream's Bobby Gillespie (who appears on the new CSS record), Mute Records founder (and former Silicon Teen) Daniel Miller, Franz Ferdinand's Alex Kapranos spin tunes, among other notables. Upcoming DJ slots include Radiohead's Colin Greenwood on Friday, Robert Wyatt and Alfie are on Saturday, and The Pastels on Sunday. Here's hoping they bring it back at a later date.
Ok, let's get into what this weekend and beyond has in store. Austin powerhouse trio Ume's current tour hits the city this weekend for two shows: tonight (6/9) at Pianos and Saturday (6/11) at The Rock Shop. As previously reported, the band just signed to Modern Outsider records who will release their debut album, Phantoms, in August. Pretty much everybody here at BV are Ume fans. They write great songs and, yes, they are a bundle of energy on stage with some serious guitar heroics provided by singer Lauren Langer Larsen. After NYC the three of them head north to the NXNE festival. All Ume dates are at the bottom of this post.
Memoryhouse also roll into town this weekend. They play Glasslands on Friday (6/10) and Piano's on Saturday (6/11). Both shows are with dreamy acoustic trio High Highs who are worth getting there early to see.
As you may have heard the Toronto duo are now signed to Sub Pop and should have something out on the label by year's end. Memoryhouse is also now a full band, including a drummer, which make the likelihood of their music remaining Eno-ambient less likely. I'd probably have more of a clue if I'd caught their set at our SXSW party this year. Reports I could find from Austin were positive, though not especially descriptive. Anyone got a firsthand report? Personally I"m hoping this more traditional band format pulls them into Slowdive territory. We shall see.
Both shows have their individual draws. Glasslands also has personal faves North Highlands whose debut album is in the can, apparently, and now we just have to wait for someone to release it. They will definitely be the most energetic live band on the bill, unless all the other groups have radically changed. Well, I've never seen Wonder Bear live but judging by the chill sounds on their album Avalanche (a free download) but I have to imagine it will be a mellow affair.
Speaking of chill, you may remember the sweatbox that was Glasslands last summer, well with the new club's new makeover they also finally got A/C. Certainly the 90 degree heat of this week will be a good test for it's power.
Meanwhile the Pianos show on Saturday has Foxes in Fiction which is, on record, basically Warren Hildebrand who is now also a member of the Memoryhouse live touring unit. At SXSW he was backed by Memoryhouse so I'd expect the same here. Last year's Swung from Branches mixed soundscapes with more structured songwriting (he gets compared to Bradford Cox a lot) and his most recent FiF release, Alberto (download the whole thing for free HERE), finds him moving into even more pop territory. It's a packed Pianos bill, including Eastern Conference Champions and Suns (not Suuns).
Let's keep going, shall we? Nashville party rock trio Natural Child are here for a two-night stint at Death By Audio, playing Sunday (6/12) and Monday (6/13). The band's debut album is out now on JEFF the Brotherhood's Infinity Cat label which should give you a good idea of what you're in for. An even better indicator are the two tracks from it at the top of this post from the album. If you like Thin Lizzy, honky tonk side of the Stones and JEFF the Brotherhood, you'll probably dig Natural Child too. These shows are bound to be packed and sweaty (and smokey) so be prepared for that, as well as for having a good time.
On the opposite end of the spectrum is former Stereolab vocalist Laetitia Sadier who will be playing Le Poisson Rouge on Monday (6/13) and The Rock Shop on Wednesday (6/15). Her solo debut, The Trip, came out last year on Drag City and was a lovely album. Not that far off from what she did with her band for the last 15 or so years, but it has it's own special charms as well.
And lastly this Tuesday (6/14) is a swell double bill of danceable Canadians at Webster Hall: Junior Boys and Miracle Fortress. Junior Boys' fourth album, It's All True, is out that same day on Domino and is another fine example of their lithe, breezy style. Miracle Fortress -- aka Graham Van Pelt of Think About Life -- just released its second album, Was I the Wave, which finds him setting aside the first LP's guitars in favor of electronics with a decidedly Eno-esque slant. You can download album track "Miscalculations" at the top of this post. It's a really nice record. When I caught him at SXSW, Van Pelt performed solo surrounded by tons of equipment and a few vintage table lamps. Not bad for a one man show.
That's it for this week. A few more day-by-day picks follow.
THURSDAY JUNE 9
Did you know The Cloud Room was still together? They are and play Mercury Lounge tonight. Of course they're going to play local hit "Hey Now Now," no need to shout for it.
Laetitia Sadier of Stereolab will play a rare and small show at Rock Shop on June 15th, two days after she plays the larger Le Poisson Rouge on June 13th with with Erika Spring (of Au Revoir Simone) and Arturo en el Barco. Tickets for Rock Shop go on sale TODAY (5/11) at 5PM and will also available via the Rock Shop box office at that time. Tickets for the "first-come, first-served partially seated event" at LPR are still available too.
The shows are in support of Sadier's first solo LP, The Trip, which dropped last year via Drag City. The LP features guest shouts from Richard Swift, April March, and and Julien Gasc. Listen to a couple songs from the LP, with all tour dates (aka Germany and NYC), below...