Entries tagged with: Modest Mouse
by Andrew Sacher
Joe Plummer, who you know as drummer for Modest Mouse, The Shins, The Black Heart Procession, Mister Heavenly and Cold War Kids, now has a new project called Built In Sun, which his him and his former Black Heart Procession bandmate Pall Jenkins (vocals). They're set to release their self-titled debut album on August 7 (pre-order), and we've got the premiere of its new single "V."
If you like any of the bands Joe also plays/played in, you'll probably dig this too. It's warm indie rock with some Loaded-era VU influence, and it's no surprise that two indie veterans pull stuff like this off with ease. Listen, along with other album tracks "Honeybear" and "Due to Rain," below.
photos by David Andrako
After opening their sold-out show at Celebrate Brooklyn at the Prospect Park Bandshell
last night with the rallying call of "Fire It Up," Modest Mouse frontman Isaac Brock announced that he had some minor concerns about playing the show. As it turns out, he
had just sprained his index finger. "How'd I do that?" he mused aloud. "Carelessness." Brock's candor was fitting, considering the tone of sarcasm and detachment that permeates many of the group's lyrics, from their first album in 1996 to their latest release, Strangers to Ourselves. Modest Mouse's performance of songs like "Tiny Cities Made of Ashes," "Bury Me with It," "Out of Gas" and "King Rat" nicely conveyed this attitude.
Of course, it's not all aloofness and irony with Modest Mouse--their catalog includes many moments that skew toward sincere. Last night's rendition of "Dramamine," from the band's first official release, This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About, was clearly an emotional touchstone for the crowd, as was the sweet and simple new song "Coyotes," and "3rd Planet," from 2000's The Moon & Antarctica. But Modest Mouse didn't shy away from playing one of their most upbeat songs, "Float On," the sonic equivalent of a pep talk. [The House List]
It's a big week for Celebrate Brooklyn. Interpol played their big ticketed show in Prospect Park one night earlier, and this weekend are two great free shows: Jason Isbell/Dawn Landes is Friday, and Sylvan Esso/Porches happens Saturday.
Last night (7/22) was Modest Mouse, who were playing their third NYC show in support of this year's Strangers to Ourselves. It was a good double bill too, with another eccentric indie rock veteran, Gene Ween. Pictures are in this post.
While Modest Mouse were in town, they also appeared on Late Night with Seth Meyers to play "Pups to Dust" off their new album. Video of that, with more pictures from Prospect Park and MM's setlist, below...
photo: Iggy Pop in Austin in 2013 (more by Greg Cristman)
photo: Modest Mouse at Firefly Fest 2015 (more by Vladislav Grach)
Modest Mouse's first full length since 2007, Strangers to Ourselves, came out earlier this year and today they gave "The Ground Walks, with Time in a Box" a music video. Watch the Jorge Torres-Torres-directed video below.
Modest Mouse have been playing a bunch of festivals this year, with many more on the way. And their tour includes a return to NYC on July 22 at Prospect Park with Gene Ween. That show is sold out.
Updated list of tour dates, with the new video, below...
In addition to the Made In America-presented Mary J Blige show that happened last week and the second TBA one-day NYC show, the Jay Z-curated Budweiser Made In America festival returns to Philly Labor Day Weekend. It happens September 5-6 at Benjamin Franklin Parkway and the lineup includes Beyonce, The Weeknd, J Cole, Bassnectar, Modest Mouse, Death Cab for Cutie, Meek Mill, Big Sean, Future, Duke Dumont, A-Trak, Santigold, Metric, De La Soul, Action Bronson, Earl Sweatshirt, Vic Mensa, Flatbush Zombies, Creepoid, Superheaven, Hop Along, Waxahatchee, Strand of Oaks and more. Tickets are on AmEx presale now, and the general on-sale starts Monday (6/29) at noon.
Full lineup below...
New Orleans music festival Voodoo Music Experience returns this year Halloween weekend from October 30 - November 1. The lineup includes Ozzy Osbourne ft. Geezer Butler, Tom Morello & Slash, Jane's Addiction, Modest Mouse, Giorgio Moroder, Chance the Rapper, Florence + the Machine, Babes In Toyland, Jack U (aka Diplo & Skrillex), Gerard Way, Joey Bada$$ & the Soul Rebels, Clutch, The Cult, Fishbone, Title Fight, Duke Dumont, Santigold, Frank Turner, Girl Talk, Hundred Waters, Deadmau5, Third Eye Blind and more. Tickets are on sale now.
Full day-by-day lineup below...
Morrissey / Modest Mouse / Run the Jewels / crowd
Back in 2012, the seemingly random location of Dover, Delaware got the new Firefly Music Festival, and it was instantly a success. This past weekend it wrapped up its fourth year, and this thing is more massive than ever. I mean for one, they got Paul McCartney to headline the Friday night (more on that here), and there may not be a bigger deal of a headliner on the planet than him. But Paul wasn't even the half of it. The grounds are huge, and they were packed all three days. To get an idea of the size, it sometimes took about 10-15 minutes to get from the Firefly Stage to the Lawn Stage -- the two that always seemed to have the biggest acts. Unfortunately this also meant it was often impossible to see a full set, the worst case for me being Morrissey straight into Modest Mouse straight into Paul on Friday. It meant I missed when Morrissey played "Meat Is Murder" with his graphic on-screen projections, and apparently sent a portion of the crowd away in disgust.
I'm not sure how many other people who missed that happen were bummed out though, because realistically, Morrissey isn't a main draw at a festival like this. The biggest and most hyped crowds I saw were for the EDM acts like White Panda and Zedd, or the current wave of festival-ready bands like Bastille and Walk the Moon. Those bands have this vaguely-alternative pop rock sound that's danceable, easy to digest, and full of a lot of whoa-ohs. It's pretty easy to see why that sort of thing does well on a major festival, but it's not too surprising that their fans don't want to hear angry songs about the meat industry.
Even if Morrissey didn't get the fists pumping though, he sounded great. When he and the band played "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before," his voice sounded as rich as it does on Strangeways, Here We Come. And his stage presence isn't wild or anything, but he still managed to seem larger than life. Whether he was playing recent tunes like "World Peace Is None of Your Business" or classics like "Suedehead," his live show lived up to the expectations I had for someone as legendary as Moz.
Throughout the weekend, there were a few other artists avoiding the festival-pop trends too. Earlier on Friday on the same stage that Moz and Macca would play was Manchester Orchestra. I haven't loved a full album of theirs since the singer/songwriter-y indie rock of 2006's I'm Like a Virgin Losing a Child, but in the time since then they've basically transformed into a grunge band and they really pull it off live. In my opinion, the only thing holding back a song like "Top Notch" off last year's Cope is the production, but in a raw live setting those Headbanger's Ball-worthy jams live up to their full potential. And when M.O. do whip out the older ones like "I Can Barely Breathe" and "Where Have You Been?," they sound tighter than ever.
Modest Mouse were fantastic as always too. The only real conflict of the weekend for me was that they were up against Run the Jewels, but having seen RTJ five days earlier, I opted for the Mouse. We got a good amount of their new album, and they worked in old favorites towards the end, giving us a stretch of "Dramamine," "Doin' the Cockroach," "Float On," and "Dark Center of the Universe" all in a row.
Saturday the highlights were fewer for me, the biggest being Zola Jesus' set. She played at The Forest Stage, which is this cool small stage that's a little out of the way in comparison to the others. It gets its name as it's surrounded by a thick wooded area, which also makes it a nice way to escape the sun. Zola played to less than 100 people (the masses were gathered at the main stage for Matt & Kim), but she and her band brought a much welcome darkness to this festival. It was appropriate to have her on the shady stage. Her band (three men in all black clothing) were all business as Zola belted her powerhouse vocals, lurched around the stage, and at one point came up to the crowd and walked along the barrier. She left the stage abruptly after closing song "Vessel," and had the small but loving crowd yelling for an encore (no such luck).
Sunday had the hardest-rocking afternoon band I saw since Manchester Orchestra, Benjamin Booker. I didn't fully realize from his self-titled 2014 debut how rocking he is, or how he could be opening for Social Distortion and playing the punk/metal stage at Fun Fun Fun Fest later this year. But after seeing him live, I get it. He might smile and laugh a lot on stage, but when he and his band locked in for a feedback-y jam and then Benjamin ripped a string-bending solo, they were no joke.
The only artist I was excited to see that ended up being a disappointment was Snoop Dogg. Even though the guy's got countless songs dating back over 20 years, he spent the majority of his set essentially doing karaoke to other people's songs. Sure, it was fun when he got the huge crowd singing "I Love Rock and Roll" and "Jump Around," but it could've been anyone up there doing it. And a lot of the Snoop songs we did get were cut short. Things should go over better when he plays Doggystyle in full at Riot Fest.
Right after his set, I ended my weekend at The Killers. You might argue they're no better than the Bastille/Walk the Moon-type stuff I was talking about earlier, and sure they have some cheese in their sound. What bothers me about those bands though isn't their poppiness, it's that they all sound so anonymous. But "Mr. Brightside," "Somebody Told Me," "Smile Like You Mean It" and later hits like "When You Were Young" and "Human" are all bangers, and hearing all those songs at Firefly was a blast. Even their more recent, less banging songs pretty much sound like mid-'80s Bruce Springsteen, which was a refreshing change from the interchangeable festival-pop bands.
The Killers also did the Firefly crowd a favor by covering two songs by Kings of Leon, whose Saturday night set was cancelled due to lightning. And any classic rock fans hanging around were treated to a cover of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Bad Moon Rising," which they pulled off surprisingly well. These guys are total rock stars and they clearly know it, but at least they do what they do really well. (Unlike Foster the People who I saw a day earlier with an open mind but just kept thinking ...what are they even doing?)
More Firefly pictures (including some from Thursday night, which I didn't attend) below. Paul McCartney wasn't allowing photos but we did get pics of him in Philly on Sunday.
photo: Death Grips at FYF Fest 2013 (more by Wei Shi)
First Toronto, then Chicago, now here's the 2015 Riot Fest Denver additions: System of a Down, The Prodigy, 88 Fingers Louie, Chef'Special, Input & Broken, and... Death Grips whose current tour surprisingly includes actual shows being played!
The additions join Modest Mouse, Pixies, Snoop Dogg (playing Doggystyle), Ice Cube (playing Straight Outta Compton remix), Rancid (playing ...And Out Come the Wolves), Iggy Pop, Run DMC, Motorhead, Drive Like Jehu, L7, Explosions in The Sky, Thrice, Babes In Toyland, Anthrax, Testament, The Damned, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, GZA, De La Soul, Desaparecidos, Nada Surf, The Lawrence Arms, The Get Up Kids, The Vandals, American Nightmare, Joyce Manor, 7 Seconds and more.
Riot Fest Denver happens August 28-30 at the Western Rodeo Complex. Tickets are still available. Updated poster and lineup below...
They join Faith No More, Iggy Pop, Snoop Dogg (performing Doggystyle), Modest Mouse, No Doubt, Rancid (performing ...And Out Come the Wolves), Tenacious D, BIlly Idol, Ice Cube (performing Straight Outta Compton remix(, Drive Like Jehu, Lifetime, Desaparecidos, American Nightmare, Swervedriver, Babes In Toyland, L7, The Damned, Death, Anthrax, Modern Life Is War, The Movielife, and more.
Riot Fest Chicago goes down September 11-13 in Douglas Park. Tickets are still available. Updated lineup below.
Update: Denver additions announced too.
UPDATE: More artists added.
First Toronto, then Denver, now the Riot Fest Chicago 2015 lineup is announced. It includes Faith No More, Iggy Pop, Snoop Dogg (performing Doggystyle), Modest Mouse, No Doubt, Rancid (performing ...And Out Come the Wolves), Tenacious D, Billy Idol, Ice Cube (performing Straight Outta Compton remix), Alkaline Trio, Taking Back Sunday, Drive Like Jehu, Merle Haggard, Lifetime, Desaparecidos, American Nightmare, Swervedriver, Babes In Toyland, L7, Thrice, The Lawrence Arms, The Dwarves (performing Blood, Guts and Pussy), Jimmy Cliff, The Damned, Against Me!, Living Colour, Fishbone, Death, Hum, GWAR, Civ, The Thurston Moore Band, Echo & the Bunnymen, Anthrax, Modern Life Is War, The Movielife, FIDLAR, Andrew WK, Steve Ignorant & Paranoid Visions, Alvvays, Speedy Ortiz, Beach Slang, Tommy Stinson and many more, plus a few more TBA.
Tickets are on sale now. This year happens at the new location of Douglas Park from September 11-13. All currently announced artists are listed below...
UPDATE: More artists added.
We just posted the Riot Fest Toronto lineup, and here's the Riot Fest Denver 2015 lineup: Modest Mouse, Pixies, Snoop Dogg (playing Doggystyle), Iggy Pop, Tenacious D, Ice Cube & special guests (playing Straight Outta Compton remix), Run DMC, Rancid (playing ...And Out Come the Wolves), Motorhead, Drive Like Jehu, L7, Explosions in the Sky, Cypress Hill, Alkaline Trio, Thrice, Babes In Toyland, Anthrax, The Damned, Eagles of Death Metal, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, GZA, De La Soul, Testament, Desaparecidos, Nada Surf, The Lawrence Arms, Andrew WK, GWAR, The Black Lips, The Dead Milkmen, The Get Up Kids, American Nightmare, Swervedriver, The Vandals, 7 Seconds, Joyce Manor, OFF!, Speedy Ortiz, Beach Slang and many more. A few more bands, including two headliners, TBA.
Tickets are on early bird sale now. This year, the fest happens at the new location of Western Rodeo Complex from August 28-30.
UPDATE: Chicago announced too.
All currently announced Denver bands are listed below...
photos by Debi Del Grande
Spoon / Fuzz / Modest Mouse / Father John Misty / Syvan Esso / Diarrhea Planet
While Friday and Sunday nights are topped with EDM, Saturday belonged unequivocally and inarguably to good ol' rock and roll.Day 2 of the 2015 Sasquatch Music Festival, which happened Memorial Day Weekend in Gorge, WA, featured such heavy-hitters as Spoon, Modest Mouse, Decemberists, and Father John Misty, as well as Arcade Fire's Will Butler, Sylvan Esso, and greasy-haired upstarts Diarrhea Planet, King Tuff and Ty Segall's proto-metal trio, Fuzz.
It climaxed early with a face-melting set from five-guitar band Diarrhea Planet, who brought every rock god dream to fruition: Head banging. Windmilling. Soloing behind your head. Soloing with your teeth. A dusty mosh pit kicked up in front of the stage, the wild-eyed youth unleashing their inner demons, all to the ritualistic howl of the electric guitar...
...The onslaught of guitars continued after sunset and well into the night, with veteran indie rock acts The Decemberists and Modest Mouse anchoring the main stage. The day concluded with a great set from fellow veteran band Spoon, but by that late the crowds had largely given up on guitar rock, trading it in for the synthesized sounds of ODESZA. - [Oregon Live]
Pictures from Sasquatch day 1 are HERE, and we'll have photos from the fest's final two days soon. More pics from day 2 below...
photo: ACL 2014 (more by Sarah Frankie Linder)
The Austin City Limits festival returns to Zilker Park from October 2-4 and October 9-11, and though the lineup wasn't supposed to be announced until this Tuesday, Austin 360 points out that the festival's website leaked it early. The posting was quickly taken down, but not before 365 Things Austin could screenshot it. It was accurate and the ACL 2015 includes Foo Fighters, Drake, The Strokes, The Weeknd, Disclosure, Deadmau5, Bassnectar, Alt-J, Alabama Shakes, Of Monsters and Men, Tame Impala, Sturgill Simpson, The Decemberists, Brand New, TV on the Radio, A$AP Rocky, Billy Idol, Chance the Rapper, Father John Misty, Brandon Flowers, Run the Jewels, Sylvan Esso, Kurt Vile, Waxahatchee, Florence + the Machine, Modest Mouse and more.
Check out the full lineup below. Tickets go on sale Tuesday (5/5) at 10 AM CDT.
Portland, Oregon's MusicfestNW takes place at the city's Tom McCall Waterfront Park on August 21-23 and the festival has now announced this year's lineup. The 15th edition of the festival features appearances from Modest Mouse, Beirut, The Tallest Man on Earth, Belle and Sebastian, Danny Brown, Battles, Title Fight, Lady Lamb and many more. Tickets for the festival go on sale Friday (4/24) at 1o AM Pacific (1 PM EDT), with early bird 3-day passes going for $105 and single-day early birds starting at $35.
Check out the lineup in full below...
photo: Sleater-Kinney at T5 in February (more by PSquared)
Sleater-Kinney, who first said they weren't playing festivals but then were announced for Primavera Sound, have now also been added to home stage festival Sasquatch!, taking place Memorial Day Weekend (5/22-25) at The Gorge. Other new additions include Angel Olsen, Hanni El Khatib (who plays NYC tonight), THEESatisfaction, Helms Alee, AlunaGeorge, Kaytranada, Goldlink and a few others.
Those additions join previously announced names such as Kendrick Lamar, Robert Plant, Modest Mouse, Lana Del Rey, Ryan Adams, The Decemberists, Tame Impala, St. Vincent and many more. Festival tickets are still available.
Updated lineup below...
'Strangers to Ourselves' cover art
Modest Mouse's first album in eight years, Strangers to Ourselves, is out today and pretty much sounds like Modest Mouse -- which is not a bad thing at all. You can stream the whole thing below via Rdio and frontman Isaac Brock offers up track-by-track commentary of the album on Spotify.
Isaac Brock and the rest of Modest Mouse are in NYC for two relative small shows Mimicking Birds, playing Webster Hall on Wednesday (3/18) and Thursday (3/19) both of which are sold out. They'll then be back when their tour returns for a Celebrate Brooklyn! benefit show at Prospect Park on July 22 and tickets are still available.
Modest Mouse also played Prospect Park in 2002 as part of the "Unlimited Sunshine" tour that also featured Flaming Lips, Kinky and Cake. Who remembers that?
Album stream below...
The band have also announced a tour which includes three NYC shows: Webster Hall on March 18 and 19 (tickets on sale 3/6 at 9 AM) and a larger show, Celebrate Brooklyn at Prospect Park on July 22. Tickets for Prospect Park go on sale Friday (3/6) at noon with AmEx, Ticketmaster, and Celebrate Brooklyn presales starting Wednesday (3/4) at noon.
Night 1 of the Webster Hall shows is with Mimicking Birds, but no openers announced for the other two yet.
All dates are listed, with the new song, below...
photo: Paul McCartney in Austin, 2013 (more by Tim Griffin)
You may remember that when Firefly Music Fest announced its 2015 lineup, the first headliner was blurred out on the poster. Well, as rumored, it's Paul McCartney, the fest revealed today. Macca will join Morrissey, Modest Mouse, Spoon, Run The Jewels, How To Dress Well, Snoop Dogg, Tycho, Sturgill Simpson, Sylvan Esso, Zola Jesus, Rustie, Le1f and many more at the fest which happens June 18-21 at the Woodlands in Dover, DE. Updated lineup below.
General admission passes to Firefly go on sale Monday (3/2) at noon, EST.
McCartney was just in NYC for a surprise Valentine's Day show and an appearance on the SNL 40th Anniversary special. He since spent some time skiing in Vermont, much to the delight of the J.J. Hapgood General Store & Eatery in Peru.
Delaware's annual Firefly Music Festival comes back June 18-21 and the lineup's now been released. Kings of Leon, The Killers and
a TBA third act rumored to be Paul McCartney (update: it's Paul) sit atop the list, with Morrissey, Modest Mouse, Spoon, Run The Jewels, How To Dress Well, Snoop Dogg, Tycho, Sturgill Simpson, Sylvan Esso, Zola Jesus, Rustie, Le1f and many more joining them on the list of performers. Pre-sale passes are sold out, but more general admission and VIP passes will be available soon at the festival's website.
Firefly is Morrissey's first US date since canceling his dates last summer, and no other US dates are announced yet.
Check out Firefly's full lineup below...
by Andrew Sacher
photo: Modest Mouse in Queens in 2014 (more by Mimi Hong)
Modest Mouse have already put out three songs from their upcoming Strangers to Ourselves LP (due 3/17 via Epic), and today brings a fourth, "The Ground Walks, With Time in a Box." The first three have all sounded different, and the same is true for this new one. The production here may be cleaner than their earlier albums, but this song proves that they haven't forgotten how to be genuinely weird. Listen below.
Also, in case you missed it last time, it was revealed that Shins frontman James Mercer, and members of Grandaddy, Man Man, Red Red Meat, Cold War Kids, and more appear on the new album.
Sasquatch! Music Festival will return to Quincy, WA on Memorial Day Weekend, May 22-25, at The Gorge. This year's lineup includes Kendrick Lamar, Robert Plant, Modest Mouse, Lana Del Rey, Ryan Adams, The Decemberists, Tame Impala, St. Vincent, Spoon, James Blake, Hot Chip, SBTRKT, Schoolboy Q, The New Pornographers, The War On Drugs, Little Dragon, Father John Misty, Run The Jewels, Jenny Lewis, Real Estate, Future Islands, Ab-Soul, Sharon Van Etten, Action Bronson, Perfume Genius, Rustie, Courtney Barnett, Strand of Oaks, Merchandise, Ex Hex, and more.
Tickets go on sale at 10 AM PST on Saturday (2/7). Full lineup below...
photo: Modest Mouse in Forest Hills in 2014 (more by Mimi Hong)
They've also pushed back the March 3 release date to March 17 and confirmed they'll perform on Fallon that day.
UPDATE: They've revealed a number of album collaborators including Shins frontman James Mercer (who also sang on their last album), Tom Peloso, Jim Fairchild (Grandaddy), Dann Gallucci (The Cold War Kids), Russell Higbee (formerly of Man Man), Ben Massaralla (Red Red Meat), Lisa Molinaro (Talkdemonic), Davey Brozowski (The Catheters), and more.
Drummer Jeremiah Green recently revealed in a podcast on Modest Mouse fansite Interstate-8 that the rumored/reported Big Boi and Krist Novoselic collaborations will not be on the record, but may be released elsewhere at some point.
Sturgill Simpson at Joe's Pub in July (more by Chris La Putt)
The 2015 Forecastle Festival take place July 17 - 19 in Louisville, Kentucky. The fest has just announced the first round of performers, which include Modest Mouse, My Morning Jacket, Tweedy, Desaparecidos, The Gaslight Anthem, Sturgill Simpson, Sam Smith, Alvvays, JEFF The Brotherhood, Speedy Ortiz, Big K.R.I.T., and lots more. Tickets go on sale Friday (1/30) at noon EST. All announced Forecastle Fest 2015 performers are listed below.
by Andrew Sacher
While we're still waiting for Sunny Day Real Estate to get back in action again, here's something that's kind of close. Bassist Nate Mendel (also of Foo Fighters and SDRE spinoff The Fire Theft) is releasing a guest-filled solo album under the name Lieutenant, and one of those guests is none other than SDRE frontman Jeremy Enigk himself. The other guests are impressive too: Helmet frontman Page Hamilton, former Modest Mouse drummer Joe Plummer, Foo Fighters (and No Use for a Name/Me First and the Gimme Gimmes) guitarist Chris Shiflett, and The Head and the Heart singer Josiah Johnson.
The album's called If I Kill This Thing We're All Going To Eat For A Week, and it's due March 10 via Dine Alone (Canadian home of Trail of Dead, Single Mothers, Sylvan Esso and others). Toshi Kasai (Melvins, Helmet, etc) produced it. The first single, "Believe The Squalor," is a nice dose of clean-sounding somber indie rock. Check it out, via Stereogum, below.
Lieutenant's live band has Nate joined by Fleet Foxes member Christian Wargo, The Bronx drummer Jorma Vik, and Snow Patrol bassist Paul Wilson, though no live dates are announced at the moment.
Meanwhile, Nate will be on tour when the Foo Fighters go on their massive stadium tour that hits NYC on July 16 at Citi Field. In other news related to this album, a new Modest Mouse song came out this week, and Helmet are touring Betty in full in February.
Lieutenant song stream and album tracklist below...
by Andrew Sacher
photo: Modest Mouse in Queens in 2014 (more by Mimi Hong)
As you may know, Modest Mouse are finally releasing a new full length, Strangers to Ourselves, on March 3 via Epic (their first since 2007), and they've now put out its second single, "Coyotes." This one sounds a little more like classic Modest Mouse than the reggae-ish "Lampshades on Fire," and it's making me pretty excited to see how this album turns out. Watch the video, via Modest Mouse fan site Interstate-8.com, below.
Interstate-8 also points out that the first 2,500 vinyl pre-orders of the new album from ModestMouse.com will receive a free 7" of the "Lampshades on Fire" / "Coyotes" single, which otherwise won't be available for individual sale.