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by Bill Pearis

Tape Deck Mountain
Tape Deck Mountain

Two Brooklyn-based bands are heading out on a short East Coast tour together: Tape Deck Mountain and Slavve. The tour starts and ends with hometown shows: Cake Shop on September 27 with Writer, and wrapping up at Shea Stadium on October 3 with Gondoliers and headliners Weird Womb. All dates are listed below.

Slavve, the duo which features onetime Surfer Blood drummer Marcos Marchesani, released their self-titled EP this summer, full of hard-hitting lo-fi rock. Tape Deck Mountain, the shoegazy former San Diegans, released Sway last year. You can stream both of their releases in full below.

Dates are listed, along with the tour flyer and streams, below...

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by Andrew Sacher

Small Wonder

Small Wonder is the project of Brooklyn's Henry Crawford, who released his new album, Wendy, earlier this year and puts it on cassette on May 6 via Father/Daughter Records (the label that just put out the Faux Real comp on RSD). All the Mineral and American Football excitement today has emo on my mind, but I'll spare you the E-word and just point out that Henry tags the album as "sad" on bandcamp and Gold Flake Paint says:

It makes me want to sob. It makes me want to hug everyone I've ever loved and apologise to all of those that I've let down. It makes me want to crawl in to the one I love now and hold her for longer than I ever have before. I feel connected to it. I feel like I grew up with it; like it knows all of my secrets and fears and hidden memories.
It's definitely sappy -- slow, soft acoustic guitars and confessional lyrics, etc -- but if you've got a soft spot for this kind of stuff, Small Wonder will likely light a spark. It's also similar to somber 2000s indie pop like The Robot Ate Me. Take a listen to the album in full, below.

Small Wonder has a few local shows coming up, including one on May 5 at Silent Barn with Emperor X, Steve Sobs and Tape Deck Mountain; and another on June 20 at The Paper Box with more artists TBA.

Album stream below...

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Thundercat @ RBSSS Philly (more by Ryan Muir)
Thundercat

You can browse our full NYC show calendar for all of tonight's shows, but here are some highlights...

Thundercat, ASTR, Tondrae Kemp @ LPR
Thundercat is pretty close to a genius in terms of his bass playing, pulling from jazz, electronica, and hip hop and bringing it all together for a blend that no one else is really doing right now.

Justin Timberlake @ MSG
Justin Timberlake does a lot of things, some of them great, some of them less great, but one of those things is that he makes some of the most forward-thinking mainstream pop around, and he'll fill MSG with that tonight.

UPDATE: JT postponed til Friday.

Radkey, Netherlands, EULA, Shark? @ Death By Audio
This whole bill is pretty solid with the polished punk of Radkey, the synth-fueled heavy punk of Netherlands, the noise rock of EULA, and the catchy garage rock of Shark?.

Steve Earle @ City Winery
Having worked inside and outside the music industry, country survivor, protest singer and occasional actor Steve Earle plays his last of four City Winery shows tonight.

Cian Nugent, Bloom @ Union Pool
Cian Nugent taught himself to play guitar which accounts for his unusual style. Catch him tonight before his sold-out show with Angel Olson later in the week.

Lost in The Trees, All Tiny Creatures @ Bowery Ballroom
It's a solid double bill at Bowery Ballroom with the indie folk of Lost in the Trees and the experimental pop of All Tiny Creatures.

Dragons of Zynth, Denitia and Sene, Bowmont, Pajama People @ Highline Ballroom
If you're going to this show, do check out local trio Bowmont whose new EP, Hovering, is nicely textured synthpop.

Mount Sharp, Tape Deck Mountain, Great Western Plain, Snow What @ Silent Barn
There's some pretty solid local indie rock on this bill, including Mount Sharp, Tape Deck Mountain, and more.

James K, Gobby, Dutch E Germ, Shayne @ Cameo Gallery
UNO presents this dancey night at Cameo with live sets by James K and Mykki Blanco collaborator Gobby. Dutch E Germ and Shayne round out the bill, and there will be guest DJs too. Check out the Gobby triptych, "The Films: A Lucid Nightmare" below.

Nina Persson, White Prism @ Mercury Lounge
Though she best known for fun, upbeat songs like "Lovefool" with The Cardigans, Nina Persson shows her introspective side on her new solo album, for which this is a record release show. Sold out.

Marty Stuart and Connie Smith @ The Allen Room
Part of the American Songbook series, tonight features husband and wife team Marty Stuart and Connie Smith.

Glasvegas, The Ceremonies @ Mercury Lounge
Though the hype surrounding the band's debut has died in the years since, Scotland's Glasvegas are still making highly-charged anthemic guitar pop on their third LP, Later...When the TV Turns to Static. This is their first of two NYC shows and it's sold out.

Lesley Flanigan & People Get Ready @ Merkin Concert Hall
The Ecstatic Music Festival continues with this collaborative performance between electronic composer and vocalist Lesley Flanigan and occasionally high-concept indie band People Get Ready.

Baby Mollusk, Told Slant, Great Canopy, Whatever Dad @ 603 Bushwick Ave (upstairs)
Baby Mollusk recently added a bassist and drummer, turning her spare alt-folk into full-on indie rock attack. Tonight's the release show for their first full-band album, Baby Mollusk & the Big Babies. Whatever, Dad (aka Crying singer Elaiza Santos) isn't too far removed from Baby Mollusk's acoustic material.

Cult of Youth, Helm, Damien Dubrovnik @ Nothing Changes
It's the second NYC stop on London experimental musician Helm and Copenhagen electronic duo Damien Dubrovnik's (mem of Var, Lust for Youth) US tour, and like yesterday's (which had Pharmakon), there's a great likeminded NYC band on this one too: Cult of Youth.

Big Terrific @ Cameo
Max Silvestri hosts this long-running free comedy show. Tonight's show is big indeed, with Kara Klenk, Roger Hailes, Nick Turner, Nate Craig, and Ali Wong. Doors are at 8 PM.

For all of tonight's shows, and tomorrow's, check out our NYC concert calendar.

For laughs, check out the NYC Comedy calendar too.

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Delorean at Bowery Ballroom in 2010
Delorean

Brendan Canning at Pop Montreal 2013 (more by Dominick Mastrangelo)
Brendan Canning

Browse our full NYC show calendar for all of tonight's shows. Here are some highlights...

Neutral Milk Hotel, Elf Power @ BAM
After releasing one of the most classic indie albums of all time with In the Aeroplane Over the Sea, Neutral Milk Hotel pretty much disappeared with frontman Jeff Mangum choosing to remain mostly out of the public eye. A few years ago, Mangum began touring again, but it wasn't until late 2013 that Neutral Milk Hotel returned to the road. Their reunion tour finally comes to NYC this week and this is the second of five shows here.

Delorean, Mas Ysa @ Music Hall of Williamsburg
Spanish synthpop band Delorean may not be as buzzy as they were back in 2010 (which feels like way more than four years ago), but they're still making shiny, catchy tunes and tonight's show is sold out. NYC indie pop guy Mas Ysa opens.

Brendan Canning (of Broken Social Scene), White Hinterland @ Mercury Lounge
While Broken Social Scene is on hiatus, both co-founders are focusing on their solo projects, and tonight Brendan Canning finally makes his way to NYC after having to postpone his last tour. White Hinterland makes solid indie pop and is about to release her first album since 2010, Baby, on April 1 via Dead Oceans. You can listen to its new single, "Ring the Bell," below.

The Detroit Cobras, Nude Beach, The Above @ The Bell House
Detroit Cobras have been doing garage rock covers for about two decades now, and they'll bring the fun back to Brooklyn tonight. If you're going, get there early for Nude Beach, whose punky take on Elvis Costello-style power pop is pretty great.

French Horn Rebellion, Seasick Mama, Heavenly Beat, Pizza Underground @ Brooklyn Night Bazaar
This week's BKNB line-up is a well-curated bunch of '80s-leaning dance acts from the wispy psuedo-Swedish Heavenly Beat, the Miami Vice-style cod reggae of Rush Midnight, and the big hook party jams of French Horn Rebellion. Sandwiched in there as well are Macaulay Culkin's novelty VU tribute band, The Pizza Underground. Free.

Woodsman, Herbcraft, Fire Talk @ Mercury Lounge
Mixing drony folk, motorik rhythms and the occasional chopped-up beat, Brooklyn's Woodsman are set to release their self-titled third album, on February 5. This is the kickoff to their tour with Herbcraft.

Reverend Horton Heat, Nekromantix, Deke Dickerson, The Creepshow, Reformed Whores @ Irving Plaza
In the world of surf-rock, the Rev is a lengend, bringing a crazed twang to his raucous instrumentals and psychobilly freakouts.

Prurient, Azar Swan, Clay Rendering @ Saint Vitus
Dominick Fernow is a man of many sounds (and projects) in the worlds of noise, power electronics, and industrial, and tonight he brings his Prurient project (just days after releasing a noisy new single) to the black walls of Saint Vitus. Also don't miss the goth pop of Azar Swan and the post-industrialism of Clay Rendering (who are on Dominick's Hospital Productions label).

Damien Jurado, Courtney Marie Andrews @ Bowery Ballroom
You can pretty much always depend on Damien Jurado to deliver excellent indie folk songs, and his newest album Brothers and Sisters of the Eternal Son (out this week on Secretly Canadian) lives up to that promise.

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Trust, Heathered Pearls (DJ), FJTRSPA (DJ), Creatures (DJ) @ Glasslands
Toronto resident Robert Alfons is Trust, for all intents and purposes, who makes sinister minimal synth. With a new album, Joyland, out in March expect lots of new stuff at the late show. Sold out.

DMX, Rakim, Naughty by Nature, EPMD, Brand Nubian, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Biz Markie, Black Sheep @ Radio City Music Hall
Tons of old school rap that needs no introduction at tonight's 'Masters of Ceremony' show at Radio City.

Travis Morrison, Jeff Rosenstock, Max Low, Patrick Salt Ryan @ The Grand Victory
The Dismemberment Plan may be active again, but frontman Travis Morrison still makes time for his solo project. And on the other hand, Bomb the Music Industry! may have just ended, but frontman Jeff Rosenstock isn't going anywhere, as he's playing solo tonight too.

R. Stevie Moore, Gary Wilson @ Issue Project Room
Godfather of home recording R. Stevie Moore is guaranteed to put on a quirky show, but for some (especially those who like Ariel Pink), he'll likely be very inspiring too. Meanwhile, fellow cult legend Gary Wilson was making ahead-of-its-time new wave in the '70s and has also made fans of newer musicians like Beck and Questlove.

Andrew Cedermark, Tape Deck Mountain, Tiger Dare @ Glasslands
A former member of Titus Andronicus, Andrew Cedermark makes laid-back rock that fits right in on Underwater Peoples (former home of Real Estate).

North Highlands, Black Girls, Arms, Fasano @ Death By Audio
Superior locals North Highlands and Arms highlight this show which also features Richmond Virginia's Black Girls (stream their album below).

EL-P, The BOTS @ Converse Rubber Tracks
To celebrate the culmination of Converse Rubber Tracks' creative workshops, rapper El-P and rock duo The Bots play this final concert, which is free but you had to enter via Converse for a chance to get in.

JD Samson & MEN, Bright Light Bright Light @ Littlefield
Kathleen Hanna's band The Julie Ruin is probably the most talked-about post-Le Tigre project at the moment, but if you were into Le Tigre's dancey, passionate jams, JD Samson's band MEN continues to provide those. This show is a benefit for the Hetrick-Martin Institute, "which provides empowerment, education, and advocacy for LGBTQ youth in New York and New Jersey."

Darlings, The Doozies, Island Twins, Sundelles @ Shea Stadium
Darlings, who make crunchy/catchy indie rock, curated this bill, "handpicked for maximum good times."

Tournament, Liquor Store, Moon Dudes, Giggly Boys @ Legion Bar
There's some solid local punk at Legion tonight with the melodic aggression of Tournament and the garage rock leanings of Liquor Store.

Old Cole Younger, Beach Party, DJ Tennessee Thomas @ Baby's All Right
Cole Alexander of The Black Lips is in NYC tonight with his Old Cole Younger project (ahead of his band's upcoming tour) and LA garage punks Beach Party are on the bill too.

For all of tonight's shows, and tomorrow's, check out our full NYC show calendar.

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Tickets to see Rhye at Webster Hall go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see Blood Orange at Webster Hall go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see The Hold Steady at MHOW go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see Warpaint at Webster Hall go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to the BV-presented Metronomy show at Music Hall of Williamsburg go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see Dum Dum Girls and Blouse at Music Hall of Williamsburg go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tokyo Police Club are playing Webster Hall on May 15. Tickets to that show go on AmEx presale today at noon, with a general on-sale starting Friday (12/13) at noon.

Tickets to see Nick Waterhouse at Bowery Ballroom go on AmEx presale today at noon.

San Fermin are playing Bowery Ballroom on February 7. Tickets to that show go on AmEx presale today at noon, with a general on-sale starting Friday (12/13) at noon.

Tickets to see Public Service Broadcasting at Mercury Lounge go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see CHVRCHES at Terminal 5 go on AmEx presale today at noon.

GZA is playing Best Buy Theater on January 18 with Datsik. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

MEN, the post-Le Tigre project of JD Samson, are playing Knitting Factory on Saturday (12/14) (moved from Rough Trade) with Tippy Toes and Colin Self. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Connan Mockasin's show that would have been at Rough Trade (1/10) has been moved to Glasslands. Arp is also opening and tickets are on sale now. Tickets for his Mercury Lounge show are still available.

Tickets to the Eagulls shows at Rough Trade and Mercury Lounge go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see Lost In The Trees and All Tiny Creatures at Bowery Ballroom go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Tickets to see Typhoon at Webster Hall go on AmEx presale today at noon.

Maria Minerva and Co La are playing 285 Kent on December 19. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Tickets for the Destruction Unit show at Saint Vitus (moved from 1/11 to 1/10) are on sale now.

Crazy Spirit, Glue, CREEM, and Chain Rank are playing Acheron on December 23. Tickets for this punk show are on sale now.

X-Ray Eyeballs, Battletorn, Concrete Cross, and Call of the Wild are playing Acheron on February 8. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Andrew Cedermark, Tape Deck Mountain, and Tiger Dare are playing Glasslands on January 24. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

R. Stevie Moore, Gary Wilson, and DJ Dubious Luxury play Glasslands on January 25. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Tiga is playing Output on December 26. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Neon Indian DJs Cameo on January 3 along with DJ sets from Joel Ford (Ford & Lopatin, Ejecta, Airbird) and Heathered Pearls. Tickets for that show are on sale now.

Browse our 'Tickets On Sale' tag for more recently announced NYC shows.

Browse our NYC Concert Calendar for shows happening today and every day - comedy shows, heavy metal concerts (courtesy of our heavy metal blog), and free shows included.

by Andrew Sacher

(photo by Jessica Lehrman)
Mutual Benefit

Mutual Benefit is the project of Jordan Lee (who according to Facebook, lives in "NYC sometimes"), and he just gathered a number of musicians to help him record his first official full length, Love's Crushing Diamond, which came out earlier this month. The album's been gaining some internet buzz, having been named Best New Music by Pitchfork, and the band's been called a Band To Watch by Stereogum. And it's not surprising; this is a strong record. Vocally, Jordan Lee isn't too far off from Peter Silberman of The Antlers, and musically it's the sort of folky chamber pop that Sufjan was doing in the early-mid '00s. There are also parts that get a little more dissonant though (there's a member credited to providing "cacophony") in a Microphones circa The Glow Pt. 2 kind of way. You can hear the album for yourself by streaming it in full below.

Mutual Benefit have played their fair share of NYC shows in the past few years, having most recently played Muchmore's during CMJ, and they've got a couple more shows scheduled at the moment. One of those is another in NYC and happens at new Williamsburg venue Baby's All Right on November 9 (where we had our BV CMJ parties). Tape Deck Mountain opens the NYC show, and tickets for the show are on sale now.

All dates are listed, along with the LP stream, below...

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Writer

James and Andy Ralph make music collectively as Writer and the Brooklyn-based sibs self-released Brotherface back in October 2012 and it's loaded with dense, gritty, anthemic songs. You can stream the album below. Also below, we've got the premiere of Writer's new video for "Cash for Gold" which features no cash, very little gold but a plethora of psychedelic imagery.

Writer begin a January residency at Pianos tonight (1/8), where they've lined up Census and Crusin' USA to play as well. Advance tickets are available. Next Tuesday (1/15) they'll play with Spookfish, plus Shilpa Ray, Cannibal Animal Machine and Man Made Sun (tickets); and after skipping a Tuesday, they'll finish their residency on 1/29 with Travis Trevisan of Tape Deck Mountain, plus Man Made Sun again and Phantasm (tickets).

Residency flyer, video premiere, and album stream are below...

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Evan Dando at The Bell House (more by Graeme Flegenheimer)
Evan Dando

Evan Dando & The Lemonheads have a few random upcoming dates scheduled. The Lemonheads will share a bill with The Canon Logic on April 28th at Maxwell's in Hoboken. Tickets are still available. You can also catch Josh Lattanzi of The Lemonheads at Bowery Ballroom on May 26 & 27 as part of the Bob Dylan tribute that will also include members of the Strokes, Hold Steady, etc, etc.

All other upcoming Evan Dando dates are in other countries at the moment, including a June 16th Evan & Juliana Hatfield show in Toronto for the NXNE festival which, like Brooklyn's own multi-venue festival Northside, recently expanded its lineup. Some of the other bands playing are in the title of this post. The rest are listed below.

All Dando-related dates and some videos below too...

Continue reading "Lemonheads playing shows, NXNE expands lineup (includes Descendents, Stars, Devo, OFF!, Juliana Hatfield, more)"

words by Rachel Kowal, photos by Amanda Hatfield

The Drums @ Santos, late Wednesday night (this photo by Nathan Lee Bush)
The Drums

When I started to scope out the schedule for Wednesday night, I planned on spending the first part of the night running back and forth between Spike Hill and Bruar Falls, but I decided to head over to Rock Shop instead, comforted by the knowledge that most of the bands I wanted to see (Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr., The Magic Bullets, etc.) would be playing more sets later in the week anyway.

When I arrived at the Park Slope venue, Tape Deck Mountain was mid-set. At the time, I was fairly satisfied with the few songs I did catch (including a cover of "Mother" by Danzig) (a theme this week?). The band has decent vocals and execution, but when I later reflected on the bands I had seen, I realized that nothing about their set really stuck with me.

Up next was Cloud Nothings. The energy in the room picked up immediately when the Cleveland group began to play (of course it helped that the crowd had begun to fill out at that point). Possibly propelled by nerves or sheer excitement, the youthful band raced through their set as if competing at a track meet, slowing down just long enough for vocalist Dylan Baldi to entertain the audience with his endearing asides. Baldi may not have what you'd generally consider to be a 'good' voice, but he more than makes up for it in his delivery.

Just when I had begun to get a little sick of all-guy groups, the next two acts on the bill each featured a more even distribution of the sexes. Up first - Blair. Right before she and her backing band began their set, there was a bit of an upset when her acoustic guitar came crashing down, but she didn't let the setback dampen the mood. "I just broke a guitar, but it's ok," she said surprisingly nonchalantly. Thanks to their matching tie die shirts (worn by 3 out of 4 people anyway), sunny indie pop melodies, and Blair's unadulterated voice and accompanying song topics (she sings about things like love, candy, and dancing to Whitney Houston), things suddenly took a turn for twee, but I was totally ok with that.

For what it's worth, it was Blair's upbeat diddy "Hello Halo" that I found stuck in my head at the end of the night, and given the position of her set (right in the middle), that's saying something.

The Rock Shop was treating me well, but sadly, my itinerary called for me to return to Manhattan. I did get to stay just long enough to know what I was missing with Braids though. Their set-up may have been nearly identical to that of Blair, but their sound was much more polished thanks to the many overlapping layers of instrumentation and vocals that they carefully crafted on stage. Though I would have gladly stayed longer, I made my way to the train midway through their set.

When I arrived at Santos Party House for the Stereogum/PopGun show, I was a bit dismayed to see the long line extending down the block, but I somehow managed to get into the venue. I made my way to the smaller downstairs room to see Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. Just when I was really starting to get upset about the obnoxiously long wait (I could have seen more of Braids set!), I understood the reason for at last part of the hold-up: the group's two main members (Joshua Epstein and Daniel Zott) had run backstage to change into their costumes. Yes, costumes. Head to toe Nascar uniforms to be exact. It's hard to say whether this kind of shtick will hold up in the long run, but it's a pretty good way to stand out on a long list of relatively unknown bands (well that and their ridiculous name).

Whether it's your bag or not, chances are you might end up seeing these guys at some point during the week if you haven't already. They're certainly putting in the time. It was apparently their third show of the day. There wasn't much room for dancing in the packed room, but that didn't stop people from trying, and their light-hearted and energetic set certainly helped propel me through the rest of the night.

To close the evening, I darted upstairs to the main room at Santos to catch (the second half of) Wild Nothing and The Drums. It was kind of a weird succession of moods at that point. After leaving the lively basement room, Wild Nothing seemed even more subdued than I had remembered, but the group (under Jack Tatum's lead) put on a tight set. Considering the next band's laid back, sun-drenched sound, "Summer Holiday" was particularly enjoyable since it was distinctly more upbeat than their other tunes.

Then, finally a bit after 1:00am - The Drums. At this point, I was pretty exhausted, so I was pretty glad when singer Jonathan Pierce announced that they were going to play everything "twice as fast" so we could get home. The Drums seem to have mastered that fine balance of playfulness and artistry. It's hard not to grin at Pierce's over-the-top delivery. With a distinct swagger in his voice and some ridiculously exaggerated dance moves, he's a sight to behold - but so is the rest of the band, swaying in the background. These boys have come a long way since last summer.

I may not have gone to sleep until nearly 4:00am last night, but the constant adrenaline rush from just knowing how many good acts there are tonight should be more than enough to keep me going... that and the knowledge that I'm already planning on taking a personal day tomorrow.

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Also Wednesday: "Viral sensation" Kyle Andrews, Animal Collective friends Prince Rama, and Minneapolis-based "chamber-folk sextet" Dark Dark Dark played the Terrorbird day party at Cake Shop with Kordan, Botany, Revolver, Baths, Marnie Stern, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. Pics of the first three adorn this post.

Dark Dark Dark are also on board for Supply & Demand/InDigest CMJ Official Showcase at CoCo 66 on Friday 10/22 with Franz Nicolay, Vandaveer, The Lisps, Milageres, and Spirit of the Red City. The band will also then Fontana's during the day on Saturday 10/23 to team up with Swells, Brian Bonz, Fairmont, New Numbers, and Skyler.

Prince Rama have a few dates this week, as discussed, including the Paw Tracks/ Car Park show at Cake Shop tonight (10/21) with Cloud Nothings, and the WFMU Record Fair on Saturday (10/23) with Ted Leo (who will also play the BV Day Party earlier that day).

Cloud Nothings also have shows coming up at the Fader Fort and Don Pedro's.

More pictures from Cake Shop show, with all Cloud Nothings dates, below...

Continue reading "CMJ Day 2 in review & pics (The Drums, Wild Nothing, Cloud Nothings, Prince Rama, Dale again & more)"