Entries tagged with: Tombs
by Doug Moore
Morne at Europa, 2012 (more by Fred Pessaro)
The excellent Boston doom/sludge act Morne were quiet for much of 2013's second half; they released an album on Profound Lore in July, but scarcely appeared after its release. (They were evidently on a brief hiatus.) The band is evidently back in the hunt now, as they've announced a pair of East Coast live appearances, one of which is at the Acheron on December 28 (12/28). They will be accompanied by like-minded and like-named fellow Bostonians Fórn and BK's Tombs (who are currently recording their third album with Erik Rutan). Tix are available. The show unfortunately falls on the same day as the aforementioned Suffocation/Pyrexia show at Webster Hall, but at least you'll have options when it comes time to blow the $20 your granny gave you for Xmas. Morn tour dates -- they play a hometown show after Acheron -- are listed below
In related news, Tombs have also just announced an ABC No Rio matinee show on December 14 (12/14) with regional powers Sannhet, Argonauts, Windfaerer, and Barbarian. As usual for ABC No Rio, there are no advance tickets, just $8 at the door.
Stream full albums by Morne, Fórn, and Tombs below...
photos by Caroline Harrison
Tombs, Primitive Weapons, Empty Flowers, and Anicon teamed up for a show at Saint Vitus last Friday (11/8). The show served as a sendoff of sorts for Tombs, who left the following day for Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel)'s Mana Studios in Florida. The band will spend the next few weeks recording and mixing the follow-up to 2011's Path of Totality.
Consequently, Tombs played most of their new album -- which sounds very, very promising -- at this show. (Primitive Weapons trotted out some impressive new tunes too.) We've got a full writeup and photos over at Invisible Oranges. Here's an excerpt:
More people started filing into Saint Vitus's performance space as Primitive Weapons set up their equipment. Initially, the crowd had formed the familiar horseshoe pattern around the room that creates a gaping, empty space in front of the stage. Once Primitive Weapons were ready to begin, Dave Castillo, the band's manic frontman, ordered the crowd to approach the stage and chastised the probably-drunk couple sitting on the floor near the stage for getting in everyone's way. The crowd obliged and Primitive Weapons launched into a furious, energetic set. Castillo isn't one to shy away from getting in the crowd's face and even touching people. I spotted two young guys appearing to flee from the front of the stage to escape Castillo's attention.You can check out the full writeup and photo sets over at IO. You can check out some of the pictures below, along with footage of all four bands' sets. Make sure to give the Tombs footage a look; it's a full-set video, so you can hear most of the songs from the new Tombs record before it's even recorded.
by Doug Moore
Tombs @ The Studio, 2011 (more by Fred Pessaro)
With our NYC Metal Show Calendar growing increasingly crowded with killer tours, it'd be easy to miss some of the awesome local-oriented metal shows coming up in the next couple of months. Here are three you should hit for sure:
Behold the Arctopus, Child Abuse, and Geryon at The Acheron on October 3: Tech assassins Behold the Arctopus were just announced for Portland's Fall Into Darkness Fest, so they'll be bringing their A game at this gig as they prep for the big stage. (Which, to be fair, they always do.) Meanwhile, keyboard/bass/drums noise rockers Child Abuse (one of NYC's weirdest heavy bands, which is saying something) have a new album and an October tour in the works, though official dates/locations haven't been announced. Geryon, meanwhile, is Nick McMaster & Lev Weinstein of Krallice playing bass'n'drum death metal, which is about as strange as it sounds. Tickets are on sale.
Tombs, Primitive Weapons, Empty Flowers, and Anicon at Saint Vitus on November 8: As we mentioned a few weeks back, Tombs is only kind of a local band now; 3/4 of the members live elsewhere. The band is currently gearing up to record a new album late in the fall, so you can expect that they won't be around NYC much after this date. Primitive Weapons -- formerly something of a house band at Vitus -- have also dialed their local appearances way back as of late. Catch both NY heroes on one bill while you can; buy tix here.
Dysrhythmia, Zevious, and Geryon at Saint Vitus on November 17: Even if you don't like the noodly shit, or if you insist on rock music having vocals (lame), Dysrhythmia are one of the most jaw-dropping live acts in the game right now, thanks in no small part to drummer Jeff Eber's ability to slam the everloving crap out of his drums while dodging through Colin Marston (who just released a new album) and Kevin Hufnagel's zany parts. Main support Zevious also features Jeff, along with his brother Mike. With Geryon bringing up the fore, there is going to be a lot of good drumming at this show. Tix here.
Stream some Child Abuse, Geryon, and Zevious below:
Absu at Saint Vitus last night (more by Caroline Harrison)
Absu completed their second night at Saint Vitus last night (4/11) joined by support from Tombs in four-piece formation (with guitarist Garret of Wetnurse/Flourishing and bassist Ben of Woe). Like the night prior with guests Krallice, it was in celebration of twenty years as a band, hitting material from across their discography. More pictures and a review from the show are over at InvisibleOranges.
by Fred Pessaro // BBG
Absu last night with the double invisible oranges (more by Fred Pessaro)
Currently celebrating 20 years on Earth, otherworldly "mythological occult metal" trio Absu played their first of two NYC shows at Saint Vitus last night (4/10), joined by Brooklyn's own Krallice. The band performed a ninety-plus minute set that covered their entire output, and closed with a special appearance from honcho/drummer Proscriptor stepping from behind the kit to act as a frontman. Pictures, video and the setlist from last night are at InvisibleOranges.
by Fred Pessaro // BBG
Absu at Maryland Deathfest 2012 (more by Fred Pessaro)
For my money, one of the best black metal bands in the US will play NYC tonight at Saint Vitus, the first of a two-night stay for the "mythological occult metal" band Absu. Krallice will provide support tonight (4/10) and Tombs tomorrow (4/11). As discussed, the shows will feature two sets from the band that will span the entirety of their career. Tickets are still available for both nights OR you can take your chances at trying to win a pair for each! Details on the contest are below.
Contest details, a stream of the band's classic, Tara, and remaining dates are below.
photos by Shaun Regan
Converge @ Union Transfer, Philadelphia, 1/19/2012
Congrats to Decibel Magazine on their 100th issue, who celebrated in style in their native Philadelphia on Jan 19th at Union Transfer. Featuring a headlining appearance from Converge as well as well as Pig Destroyer, Repulsion, Municipal Waste, Tombs and Evoken, the show was also chockful of guests including John Darnielle (of Mountain Goats, a regular contributor), J Bennett, Tomas Lindberg (Disfear, At The Gates), John Baizley (Baroness, who would open for Neurosis the next night at the same venue) and more. Pictures from Converge's set are in this post and a full review and photo set is available at at Invisible Oranges.
In addition, the magazine announced their annual tour which will feature appearances from Napalm Death, Cannibal Corpse and Immolation. So far details regarding dates are still TBA, but we'll let you know when those surface.
More pictures from Converge's set at Union Transfer, plus a few live videos, are below...
Tombs at Union Pool, March 2012 (more by Di Lynn Ring)
Tombs and -16- will team up for an October tour, part of a BrooklynVegan sponsored trek that covers mostly the East Coast. The dates kickoff in in Pittsburgh and head West and South, eventually looping back to NYC to play Saint Vitus on October 27 with Serpentine Path and Pyrrhon. Tickets are on sale.
Serpentine Path, who have a new LP, recently expanded from four to a five piece with the addition of Stephen Flam of Winter on second guitar (!). Look for the band's live debut at Saint Vitus that night.
All tour dates are listed below, along with the Saint Vitus flyer.
Ulcerate at Public Assembly last night
We had our van broken into in New York last night at our accom. We've lost all our guitar gear (preamps, effects units), some drum equipment, stage banner and all of Svart Crown's merch was also ripped off. We're going to keep going but this is a fucking terrible start. We had phenomenal shows in Philadelphia and NYC last night so this is an absolute kick in the fucking teeth. -[Ulcerate]Ulcerate and Svart Crown played Public Assembly last night (5/19) as part of a bill with Tombs. The band's tour forges on. Best of luck guys.
HR with Bad Brains at Music Hall of Williamsburg (more by Erik Erikson)
The two-day benefit for Lucinda's Kids at Bowery Electric begins today (4/29) with Marah, Jesse Malin, Willie Nile, Jimmy Gnecco, Dave Milone, Jim Boggie, Aaron Lee Tasjan, Ptter Ericson Stakee.
H.R. of Bad Brains plays night two, Monday, of that Manhattan benefit, but first he'll headline a Brooklyn show of his own at Public Assembly tonight (4/29) with support from Paranoid Social Club, The WonderMics, Groundswell, Matt Pless, and Jay Samel. Tickets are on sale.
The show is one of a few notable events at Public Assembly in the coming months. Xeno & Oaklander will headline Public Assembly on May 11th with David J (Bauhaus), Frank (Just Frank), and DJ sets by CREEP and Todd Pendu. Tickets are still available. Xeno & Oaklander are currently touring in the Midwest.
Also going down in the near future at Public Assembly, Idiot Glee (who we profiled last year) will play with Nick Diamonds (of islands), Celestial Shore, and DJ Udbhav on May 11th. $8 gets you in. Idiot Glee recently posted a new video for "That's All For Everyone" which is viewable below. The track comes from the band's Don't Go Out Tonight 7" and is a cover of Fleetwood Mac. Pick up a copy.
Public Assembly will host The X-Ecutioners, Da Beatminerz and "special guests TBA" alongside resident DJs Total Eclipse and Gen.Erik on May 3rd. Details, including cost, are forthcoming but prepare for a night of jaw-dropping turntablism.
Check out that Idiot Glee video and more videos below.
by Michael Hill
For over a decade, Pelican have been navigating the changing tides of a musical movement that they, along with one-time label mates Isis, helped to create. Where most bands tended toward hyperbole in their song structures, Pelican's music has a sense of immediacy that set them apart from the legion of carbon-copy bands that favored the "loud-soft-loud-crescendo" formula. Pelican added a more apocalyptic sensibility to the epic musings.
A few years ago, my band Tombs had the opportunity to tour with them. We unanimously thought this was a good thing because Pelican, aside from gaining a high standing with critics, had also garnered a very devoted following. It was one of the easiest tours I've ever done; everyone was cool, professional and totally about the music, but it was at a Denny's in San Antonio that we solidified our friendship. Or was it the white-knuckle drive across the Midwest during a freak snow storm that we did together that made us road-brothers. Either way, I feel honored to call them my friends.
Call it synchronicity, but Trevor de Brauw would be in Los Angeles on the same weekend that Tombs was scheduled to play with Exhumed as part of a Scion / Relapse showcase. I met up with Trevor and drummer Larry Herweg after our set to discuss the forthcoming EP Ataraxia / Taraxis (due via Southern Lord on 4/10), the creative process, working in a band with members living in two cities and the normal jack-assery that results when three friends get together on a warm Saturday afternoon...
photos by Di Lynn Ring, words by BBG
Tombs @ Union Pool
Tombs, in four-piece formation and with special guest bassist Paul Delaney of Black Anvil, headlined Union Pool on March 3rd with support from Argonauts (with new vocalist Chris Alfano in tow), Psychic Limb and The Year is One. Here are some pictures.
The show was one of FOUR high-profile metal shows that night in NYC, with Deicide headlining Gramercy (pics forthcoming), Drugs of Faith at Death By Audio (pics HERE) and Catheter/Laughing Dog at 538 Johnson.
All Tombs dates and more Union Pool pictures below...
Ulcerate will team with Tombs for a string of US dates that will include May 19th at Public Assembly, as part of their campaign towards Maryland Deathfest 2012. Ticketing info is forthcoming. The New Zeland band recently signed to Relapse for the follow-up to their much loved The Destroyers of All LP.
Tombs will also play a local show in the meantime, teaming with Argonauts, Psychic Limb & The Year is One for a show at Union Pool on March 3rd.
Tombs recently waved goodbye to long-time bassist Carson James, who will be temporarily replaced by Paul Delaney of Black Anvil for an upcoming LA show at The Roxy on 2/11 with Exhumed, Black Tusk, Revocation, and Royal Thunder as part of a Scion showcase for Relapse Records.
All tour dates and some streams are below.
Andy Nelson with Paint it Black at Fun Fun Fun Fest (more by BBG)
Mamiffer, Tombs, Locrian, Thou, Fuck The Facts, The Atlas Moth and many more contribute to the second part of our continuing series where we asked some of our favorite artists about their 2011 highlights. Part One HERE. Part Two below...
Midnight at Rites of Darkness (more by BBG)
2011 was a year that I spent delving deep into record bins, in the pit at shows, and searching for the most brutal of the brutal at festivals across the country including Maryland Deathfest, Chaos in Tejas, Rites of Darkness, SXSW, the A389 Anniversary show, California Discord Fest, and many others. It was also a year when I revisited my hardcore roots, and went further down the rabbit hole with DIY shows and independent records.
2011's choices for best of the year were tougher than I could have imagined, as opposed to my clear cut 2010 choice for favorite album of the year. That said, favorite records are about playability, and these are the LPs that wore out my needle and earned the most plays on my digital device (note: I made sure to remove a record that I was directly involved in because that would clearly be near the top of the list). I hope you enjoyed these records as much as I did in 2011 and if not, please share what you enjoyed below. I already can't wait for 2012.
My favorite records and shows of 2011 are below.
Seven Sisters of Sleep at A389 2011 (more by BBG)
Seven Sisters of Sleep (mems Tafkata) are two for two with releases in 2011, dropping both their excellent debut and their similarly crushing split with Children of God this year. Get both at A389. Though no full East Coast trek has been planned, Seven Sisters of Sleep will join the great All Pigs Must Die, labelmates Low Places, and NYC's Grudges for an NYC date at Acheron on 1/20, just a few days after the always awesome A389 Anniversary show at Sonar in Baltimore with Eyehategod, Gehenna, and many others.
All Pigs Must Die was recently given an "honorable mention" in Pitchfork's top metal of 2011 list (though no shout out for Seven Sisters of Sleep). Check out the full list, along with some streaming APMD material and a few videos below...
Tombs at BV-Rocks Off Official CMJ Showcase 2011 (more by Jonathan McPhail)
Decibel released their list of the best LPs of 2011. The list features a few repeat offenders and not too many surprises. One record listed technically came out in 2010 (and made my list of favorites that year). You can check out the full thing below. What record do you think they left off?
Voivod at Maryland Death Fest (more by BBG)
We already knew that Voivod was in charge of curating part of the program, but the ante has been upped with the announcement that the influential Canadian band will play all of their seminal Dimension Hatross LP and that they've invited Yob to play the fest! What's more, Yob will play two complete albums in two different sets at Roadburn 2012, including all of Catharsis and all of The Unreal Never Lived.
The announcement comes with a new round of additions to the lineup including Black Breath, Celeste, Red Fang, Black Cobra, Pelican, Tombs (who just played CMJ), Saviours (who play Saint Vitus on 11/30), Necros Christos, Bongripper, Jesu, La Otracina (who just played Union Pool), Virus, Ulver, Final,Church of Misery, Ancestors, Horisont, Dragged Into Sunlight and Christian Mistress among many others. Current lineup is below alongside some vide, and tickets go on sale 11/26 at 4AM EST.
photos by Markus Shaffer, words by BBG
Hull @ Mercury Lounge
Hull is currently on the road with The Fucking Wrath, and is also scheduled to play a Fun Fun Fun Fest Nite show in Austin with Toxic Holocaust and Pushmen at Red 7 on 11/3.
Hull have also been added to the previously mentioned Doomriders / Eyehategod show on December 4th at Europa with Knight Terror.
By my count, my CMJ 2011 consisted of 13 metal sets. Not every one was great, but what impressed me overall was the willingness many of the bands displayed to cut across the genre's constrictive sub-borders. Locals Raspberry Bulbs and Tombs--whom I caught, respectively, at Saint Vitus on Tuesday and on Rock Off's East River-faring Jewel on Saturday--each drew on black metal; but while the former spiked the style with grimy punk, the latter took a more expansive and emotive path. Likewise, Norway's Kvelertak (who also played the Jewel) juxtaposed dire metalcore breakdowns with primitive, almost Queens of the Stone Age-ish rock & roll. Best of all, though, was Hull, a local quintet that toggled gracefully between doom and thrash stylings. On Friday night at Union Pool, the band's riffs, ground out by a trio of heavy-bearded six-stringers, rolled forth from the stage like massive boulders, and its stage presence oozed conviction; these were players who had clearly pored over everything from Sabbath to Mastodon, synthesizing their research into epic treatises on the nature of heavy. --Hank ShteamerHere is a second set of pictures from Hull's Mercury Lounge show. They continue below...
Citizens Arrest at Europa (more by Keith Marlowe)
"Joe Martin, who played in Citizens Arrest during ABC No Rio's early days, remembers the space as offering a second chance. "For me, I had made the promise to myself that I would stop going to hardcore shows the day I got beat up. And then it happened to me, at one of the hardcore matinees they had--Judge, Born Against, and Affirmative Action. Some skinhead picked a fight with me and maybe I didn't get beat up, but I did get punched. So I said, that was it, no more, because I knew everytime I would go to a show from then on, I'd see this guy and panic and run away. But then ABC started, and right then and there, that feeling stopped. Every week I'd go there, I didn't care who was playing--I'd go support any band, and I guess for a while a lot of other people did too. There'd be a solid 50 people for every show."" [ABC No Rio history]Citizens Arrest will play ABC No Rio again on 12/17/2011, their first time since 1991! Joining them is the all-star lineup of Mind Eraser, Night Birds, The Inflatable Children and Death First at what will one of the last shows in the old ABC No Rio space. It's also a benefit for the the organization which will get a new building in 2012 (we don't have an exact close date yet). $10 gets you in the door. No advanced tickets.
Other upcoming shows at ABC No Rio include Japanther with The Homewreckers, Devestation Wagon, TitFit on 10/29, Boom Boom Kid, Wud Link, Ilegales Sin Fronteras, and Mi Culpa on 11/5, Wound, Skelptarsis, Kama Rupa, and (A)Truth on 11/12,Miscegnator, Coke Bust, DBCR, Sick Fix on 11/19 (Coke Bust play later that night with Masakari at Acheron), Tombs & Inhuman on 12/3, and Mischief Brew, The Swaggerin' Growlers and more TBA on 12/10.
Japanther, who played CMJ last week at Party Xpo and DROM on 10/21, has one other date scheduled before the end of the year, on 12/2 in Troy, NY at EMPAC as part of a "commissioned performance piece."
As previously mentioned, members of Mind Eraser will hit Acheron next week (on 11/3) as part of The Rival Mob, with appearances from Young Offenders, Give, and Airfix Kits.
Check out a video of Citizens Arrest and other bands playing ABC No Rio in the early 90s, below...
Kvelertak on the Jewel (photo by Greg Cristman)
A hearty thank you goes out to Rocks Off crew and the audience who baorded the Jewel on Saturday to set sail on the East River for the BrooklynVegan/Rocks Off official CMJ showcase. The show, headlined by Kvelertak and featuring Skeletonwitch, Tombs and Psychic Limb, was the second of three NYC shows for the Norwegian band, who played a surprise show at Saint Vitus directly following their Europa gig the night before. Europa was with Skeletonwitch, Turbid North, Battlecross, and Barn Burner.
As the boat pulled away from the dock, Psychic Limb took to the stage with their nihilistic hard-grind. Vocalist Brian Montouri's stage antics were as negative and wild as usual, at one point grabbing a case of beer set aside for the bands and throwing it into the crowd and screaming "free beer" into the microphone. The crowd swarmed the case and after the sound man headed to the front to move the case behind the band (its original spot), Montouri found it again and threw it back to the frothing alcohol-hungry wolves. They won't be asked back on the boat any time soon.
Tombs followed. The cold late fall air whipped through the top tier of the boat and the Brooklyn band managed make it even a little bit more icy. Another well-executed set of black metal-tinged with hardcore from Brooklyn's finest, who performed part of their set with the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop. Surreal and awesome.
Skeletonwitch's uber-fun and tongue-in-cheek blackened thrash kicked the party into overdrive, and was followed by Nowegian party-metal crew Kvelertak. Crowd-surfing, moshpits and general dancing insanity were the center-piece of both sets, which mirrored Kvelertak's set at Europa (but differed from Saint Vitus) (I went to all three). Kelertak literally brought the boat's ceiling down with them during their set, with the bands and audience members ripping the drop ceiling and tiles out of place and leaving a huge mess by the end of the night.
Lots more pictures and video from the Rocks Off Boat Cruise, below...
Kvelertak at Parkside in SF (more by Taylor Keahey)
While we couldn't be more excited about our own official showcase with Kvelertak, Skeletowitch, Tombs and Psychic Limb aboard the Jewel on 10/22 (tickets, the only boat show during CMJ and Tombs's only appearance), there are plenty of other noteworthy heavy events that go down this week.
CMJ isn't exactly thick with heavy music events, so we've taken the liberty of expanding a bit to accomodate for punk, hardcore, dark, and anything that experiments with the darker ends of the spectrum. Our guide is below. It encompasses all of the night shows (there are no day events for heavy music, sigh). Check it out....
Har Mar Superstar @ Stubb's in March (more by Tim Griffin)
Bison BC @ Europa in Sept (more by BBG)
today in NYC
* Whiplash @ UCB
* Brain Cloud @ Barbes
* Chicha Libre @ Barbes
* Impiety @ Cake Shop
* Hot Tub @ Littlefield
* The Bo-Keys @ Joe's Pub
* Greil Marcus @ Barnes & Noble
* Jane's Addiction @ Irving Plaza
* Alamo Race Track @ Mercury Lounge
* The London Souls @ Brooklyn Bowl
* Jonathan Coultan @ Apple SoHo store
* White Fence, The Babies @ Bruar Falls
* Fionn Regan, Rachel Cox @ The Rock Shop
* Jim Campilongo Electric Trio @ The Living Room
* WATERS, MiniBoone, Cuckoo Chaos @ Mercury Lounge
* Karl Berger's Stone Workshop Orchestra @ The Stone
* Reverend Vince Anderson & His Love Choir @ Union Pool
* The Velvet Teen, Spanish Prisoners, Crinkles @ Glasslands
* Snowmine, Santah, The Grates, Brian Bonz @ Public Assembly
* Doran & The Violents, Alana Amram & The Rough Gems @ Zebulon
* Bison B.C., Primitive Weapons, Bezoar, Sannhet @ Saint Vitus
* Jonquil, Ski Lodge, The Hairs, Gross Relations, Sea Monsters @ Pianos
* Sex Cult, Peace Killers, Nude Beach, The Upskirts @ Death By Audio
* Lotion, The Ditty Committee (Royal Flush Festival) @ Knitting Factory
* Har Mar Superstar, Marijuana Death Squad, Mike Mictlan, Spyder Baybie Rawdog @ Bowery Electric
* Tony Scherr Trio with Anton Fier and Rob Jost, FRED with special guest Julie Feeney, Hope For Agoldensummer @ The Living Room
Stay tuned for the lineups of the BrooklynVegan CMJ Day Parties happening at Public Assembly on Friday and next Saturday.
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Tombs at SXSW (more by Samantha Marble)
I'm proud to announce the next addition to the CMJ BV Rocks Off boat show on 10/22 with Skeletonwitch/Kvelertak.... TOMBS! This will also be Tombs' ONLY show during CMJ, and is the only scheduled show period for the Brooklyn band who recently completed a round of EU dates with the boys from The Secret. Tickets are on sale. Limited CMJ badges will also get to board.
The show is one of two in NY that Skeletonwitch will play with Kvelertak, the other being at Europa on 10/21 with Turbid North. Tickets for Europa are on sale too.
Tombs recently stopped by Violitionist studios and recorded some songs. Check out live video and streaming audio from those sessions, below...
Tombs at The Studio at Webster Hall (more by BBG)
The halfway point of the year is behind us, and already some folks are chalking up their favorites of 2011. Undoubtedly, one my favorites (much like Brandon Stosuy) is the new Tombs, Path of Totality. Now you can catch the Brooklyn greats performing some of that material at Saint Vitus on July 11th for FREE. Primitive Weapons kicks off the show at 9PM, followed by Tombs shortly thereafter at the 21+ event.
Outside of Saint Vitus, Tombs has no other US dates thus far. They'll hit Europe with The Secret in late July. Full tour schedule is below, alongside some video including a great "name that metal logo" featuring the Tombs guys and Morgan from Kill The Client.