Entries tagged with: moshing
Miss May I posted the following message to their Facebook yesterday:
As many of you will have heard, Alberto Scott, a Miss May I fan in attendance at our Webster Hall show on Saturday night tragically died. We were deeply shocked and saddened to hear this news. We are awaiting a full report from the New York Police Department. In the meantime, we'd ask that all your thoughts and prayers be with his family. We have been made aware of a webpage that is raising funds to help pay for his funeral costs. We will be making a contribution and we'd strongly urge others to do so- http://www.gofundme.com/8vjoqcThe exact cause of death is still unknown but stage diving still seems to have been a factor. One commenter on the band's Facebook post wrote: :
I was there when it went down. I'm so upset that a young life was taken away because I remember him having the time of his life. He was stage diving like crazy. He died too young but I hope he died happy around his Miss May I family.Another says:
He did hit his head stage diving and seemed okay but honestly, until the ME report comes out we know nothing other than the fact that he is gone and everyone here is devastated.As mentioned in an update yesterday, the venue emailed us to say "the patron in question did not die while stage diving. The patron collapsed while exiting the venue, as video footage and the police corroborate."
Donate if you can. Rest in Peace Alberto.
A fan died at Rise Records-signed metalcore band Miss May I's show at the Studio at Webster Hall in NYC Saturday night (the same night Against Me! was playing the save venue in the Grand Ballroom), possibly after stage diving. Limited details have been released but the band posted the following message:
Hey everyone, we are aware of the incident that occurred at Webster Hall last night and will be posting a statement shortly. However, we are awaiting further information regarding the situation before we are able to make a full statementIn the comments of that post, one fellow fan wrote:
A kid stage dove and nobody caught him. He suffered a serious blow to the head and paramedics & doctors weren't able to save him. Club and show venues need to really enforce the "No stage Diving" rule so stuff like this won't happen. The stage is meant for the band to be on and the band only. R.I.P Alberto.UPDATE Webster Hall says that despite what people are saying at Miss May I's Facebook, "the patron in question did not die while stage diving. The patron collapsed while exiting the venue, as video footage and the police corroborate."
Sinestra Studios reports that he was 21 year old Alberto Scott and they've collected testimonials from those from the scene who knew him:
"The first time I met Alberto was around Veil of Maya in 2013. He was doing his thing and my first impression was "man, I do not want to get in there with that guy. He's like the terminator Kevin Hart." Then I gave him a pat while I went and did my thing. We talked for a bit and after that, I knew He was one great mosher and a very cool f**king guy from start to finish and I'm gonna miss those kicks he does when he throw down. The scar on my lip from his kick during The Word Alive's set at Memphis May Fire was an honor. R.I.P Alberto, You were a good friend. Stay moshing in heaven man."The picture above was posted by a Jenise Ramos Sarraga who also wrote:
This is the young man that died last night. No one blames the venue or the band, he lived and breathed Miss May I and truth is he hadnt been feeling well before the show. He was my daughters best friend and came home after this picture crazy excited. He even hung a dollar bill signed by [Miss May I vocalist] Levi. Until autopsy results come in no one will know what happened. All I ask is for prayers for his friends and family and that God provide a way to be able for them to be able to cover funeral expenses. No one thinks that they will have to bury a 21yr old. Miss May I made him happy. Thanks.Jenise has also started collecting money where she writes:
On 5/3/14 this vibrant 21 year old young man with a passion for Screamo music and big dreams went to his favorite band's concert and collapsed and died after dancing. His only family is his sister and her family who all live in Florida and are already struggling financially. Please consider donating to help this family say goodbye to a life gone way too soon. Any amount would help to ease this family's burden at this painful time. Thank you in advance.Rest in peace Alberto, and people be careful out there.
photos & video by Tim Griffin
Trash Talk cause a SXSW ruckus outside Beerland - 3/14/2014
Tyler the Creator wasn't the only one upsetting the police in Austin this SXSW. His good friends in Trash Talk (who also played our Thursday day party at Red 7) were up to their usual hijinks and that included a Friday evening set outside Beerland on Red River that Tim came across as he was leaving the Friday BV Day party around 6pm...
SPREAD THE FUCKING WORD!!! Trash Talk live at Beerland on the patio. Wild in the streets! Free / all ages! This gonna be a wild one.— Lee Spielman (@LeeSpielman) March 14, 2014
Quick on the draw, Tim, who also shot Trash Talk at Red 7, pulled out his camera and captured some great video of the action, and some pictures too. View it all below...
Stage-diver at Cro-Mags, Chaos in Tejas 2011 (more by Fred Pessaro // BBG)
A Cornell Physics grad student took his girlfriend to her first metal show, and as with any good scientist he examined the patterns that took place in the melee. We quote:
Being a physicist first and a mosher second ("fieldwork was independently funded"), the student, Jesse Silverberg, can't help but notice curious patterns in what had always felt like the epitome of chaos. "Being on the outside for the first time, I was absolutely amazed at what I saw -- there were all sorts of collective behaviors emerging that I never would have noticed from the inside." So for an even better perspective, he turns to YouTube, to figure out what happens to people under the "extreme conditions" borne of a combination of "loud, fast music (130 dB, 350 beats per minute) ... bright, flashing lights, and frequent intoxication."Incendentally, the girlfriend (read: test subject) hasn't returned to a metal show since.
..Moshers, as they "move randomly, colliding with one another in an undirected fashion," seem a lot like gas particles, the researchers note. Or, as Silverberg explained to me: "It turns out that the statistical description we use for gasses matches the behavior of people in mosh pits. In other words, people bounce around like the molecules in a gas" -[The Atlantic]
First of all, thanks to everyone who has reached out in support of Randy and each of us in this terrible situation. It's noted and very much appreciated.The band is also collecting money at Facebook for his "legal fund." Alleged video footage of alleged incident, below...
We have been keeping our heads down and not speaking out due to the fluid nature of the situation and the constantly changing information that even we receive daily.
Within an hour things can do endless 180's. It's maddening to try and make heads or tails.
We're taking the time to speak to you as it has been a significant period of time since this situation began and while nothing is immediately clear to any of us, we are not trying to keep anyone in the dark.
We have reached out and are making use of the resources we have acquired to help our brother who is still detained in Czech jail.
In the two years since, we were never notified of anything related to this incident.
Randy is our brother and we assure you, we are all staying very positive for him, working endlessly behind the scenes to provide any and all assistance possible.
The best we can do is to stay positive and continue to support our friend that we know is innocent.
We know that justice will prevail and we will continue to do our part to support our friend.
- LAMB OF GOD
photos by Bao Nguyen
'my first time seeing black lips live and i never thought i'd see a group of energetic white teens mosh to a song about hurricane katrina.' - eric p
"Was anyone else shocked by the NYPD? I saw them arresting 2 hipsters, and the cops were quite aggressive and violent, like one guy was put down, and the other one had his arm twisted in his back and it looked painful. I am sure there were some kind of legit reasons for taking these hipsters away, but not so violently!!!" [pilou]Unlike Trail of Dead, but like HEALTH (and Grupo Fantasma) the Black Lips played a set at the JellyNYC Pool Party at the Williamsburg Waterfront on Sunday (7/26). Black Lips return to NYC in September to open for Yo La Tengo at Roseland Ballroom. Tickets are on sale.
In related news, the Black Lips are also now members of the Almighty Defenders supergroup. More pictures from the Watefront, the new video for "Drugs", and all tour dates, below...
Gelatin's dad, bottom left of the picture
gelatin posted this on November 9th, 2008 @ 2:12:06 pmI never thought I would find out who the man I saw almost die in the pit during Integrity's set at Fun Fun Fun Fest in Austin on Saturday was. I also never thought I would find out how the fight started. Somehow, not only did I find a message board with a description of the incident (see above), the whole thread is amazingly dedicated to this man who "gelatin" claims is her/his dad.
So, I met up with my dad at the Dirty Dog Saloon [in Austin, TX] before the [fun fun fun] fest. I didn't get a chance to eat anything, and we decided we'd have a couple of drinks and then go get some food. Well, about 8 pints later and I still hadn't eaten and it was time to go to the fest.
My dad didn't buy a ticket, so he hopped the fence and somehow didn't get busted. I almost immediately lost him in the crowd. And many hours later when I eventually found him, he was totally wasted and missing a shoe. Apparently, a "skinhead" had pushed him into the mosh pit. My dad didn't take kindly to that so he poured his beer over the dude's head and they got into a fist fight. I guess the cops pulled my dad off the dude and that's when he lost his shoe.
Somehow the cops decided my dad was an innocent victim in all of it and they let him back into the fest, even though he didn't have a wristband. After the fest we couldn't remember where he parked so we walked to my friend's car which was really really far away, and I guess the walk really fucked up my dad's foot.
We finally found his car, but for some reason he had brought a gas-powered generator with him, and it had tipped over in the car (which was a rental). So the car just overwhelmingly reeks of gasoline. However, he insisted he'd be fine and was just gonna sleep in the car for a while. And I left with my friends.
He called me this morning and somehow made it home. Still with only one shoe.
I noticed the fight when, all a sudden, all of the scariest members of the pit acknowledged knowing each other by packing together with their eyes locked on this guy (gelatin's dad), and with their faces clearly reading "kill". I was really scared for their target. Now I understand why they were so pissed off.
On a related note, when I saw gelatin's dad (I realize stereotyping is not good), my first thought was, "this guy paid to come to this festival?". I now know the answer to that question. And speaking of sterotyping, it is unconfirmed whether these guys actually consider themselves "skinheads" (You'll notice gelatin also put "skinheads" in quotes), but it worked for the title, and I'm sure they're very nice guys normally..... More pictures of the attack below...
During their performance at Fun Fun Fun Fest in Austin on Saturday (11/8), Tony Foresta announced that lame bands like Atreyu and Yelloward were doing the wall of death at their shows and therefore this would be Municipal Waste's last. The crowd was essentially challenged to make it extra special, and this is how it came out...