Two longtime staples of Chicago underground rock, Trevor de Brauw (of Pelican, RLYR, TUSK, etc) and Nate Kinsella (of American Football, Joan of Arc, Birthmark, etc), teamed up for a discussion for the Talkhouse Podcast at FORM 2019 earlier this year, and they collaborated on an improvisational musical collaboration at the end. The jam is pretty cool; it's psychedelic and post-rocky in a way you might expect from these musicians, but also in some ways that may surprise you.

During the conversation, they discussed "playing in bands with family members; having your musician father hate on your experimental work; and balancing parenthood and tour life. Oh and, of course: tone clusters, alternate tunings, death metal, and odd time signatures." The video came out today and you can watch below -- the music starts at the 29:18 mark.

Meanwhile, American Football also just released a KEXP session where they played "Silhouettes," "Every Wave To Ever Rise," and "Uncomfortably Numb" off their great new album and "Stay Home" off their classic 1999 debut. Watch below.

Both American Football and Pelican also have tour dates coming up and those are listed below too.

American Football -- 2019 Tour Dates
SEPTEMBER
13 - Lawrence, KS - The Granada
14 - Saint Louis, MO - Delmar Hall
15 - Chicago, IL - Riot Fest

NOVEMBER
02 - London, UK - Roundhouse
03 - Leeds, UK - Brudenell Social Club (Matinee) *SOLD OUT*
03 - Leeds, UK - Brudenell Social Club (Evening)
04 - Manchester, UK - Gorilla

Pelican -- 2019 Tour Dates
Sept 13 - Tolono, IL - Loose Cobra
Sept 14 - Columbus, OH - The Shrunken Head
Sept 15 - Cleveland, OH - Grog Shop
Sept 16 - Grand Rapids, MI - The Pyramid Scheme
Oct 5 - Nijmegen, NL - Soulcrusher fest
Oct 6 - Berlin, DE - Lido
Oct 7 - Dresden, DE - Beatpol
Oct 8 - Prague, CZ - Futurum
Oct 9 - Munich, DE - Feierwerk
Oct 10 - Milan, IT - Legend Club
Oct 11 - Athens, GR - Fuzz Club
Oct 12 -Barcelona, ES - AM fest
Oct 13 - Porto, PT - Amplifest
Oct 15 - London, UK - Islington Assembly Hall
Oct 16 - Manchester, UK - Gorilla
Oct 17 - Glasgow, SCO - Classic Grand
Oct 18 - Birmingham, UK - Asylum
Oct 19 - Antwerp, BE - Desertfest